A24 4,333 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Steven Spielberg: Someday superhero movies will go 'the way of the Western'. https://www.yahoo.com/movies/steven-spielberg-there-will-be-a-time-when-the-128195372462.html?src=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I told you that Superhero films are the modern westerns!Spielberg agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not the same! Star Wars is the new Western. Superhero flicks are WWE turned into movies.(Except for The Winter Soldier, which plays like a Bourne movie) Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Star Wars isn't a genre. Superhero movies are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 There are only three Star Wars movies anyway. Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Suuuuure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The prequels and the Disney ones don't count. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 And let's not forget Star Trek! If that is not the new Western then you don't understand the meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Star Trek is better then everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Star Trek is not a genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Did Jay just interfere with history? (Ah, he turned it into a separate thread) Star Trek is not a genre. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Well, the reason Western died was mainly because of the rise of space-themed movies and also the generation that lived the Western era or identified with it was also getting older, the newer generation didn't connect with it as much. And so space movies filled that place. It's a well known story, of course I'm not saying anything new here.I agree with Steven, but for superhero movies to die out there's gonna need to be something bigger, but I have no idea what it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Superhero movies are the third western reboot - after Firefly made the genre fail the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (Except for The Winter Soldier, which plays like a Bourne movie)Actually, now that you mention it, Bourne films play put very much like a traditional western.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So Spielberg's making the completely unprecedented conjecture that one day a current fad will fade away and be replaced by another fad? Man, this guy's another Nostradamus! How does he come up with this stuff?! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Emma Thompson chimes in.http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=124725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well the superhero genre is still going strong in another medium long before it became a fad. And I think as long as the superhero comic books are still churning out new stuff it may survive longer than the Westerns. Besides, legions of nerds have wanted to see some comic book stories brought to life on the big or small screens. Plus with the success of the Netflix series Daredevil I don't think the moviegoing public will totally lost interest in the superhero movie genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 And it can't come soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Sorry, Quintin, but the Western is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 See! I told you The Winter Soldier plays like Bourne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Superman would respond by breaking Spielbergs neck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Eavesdropping, waterboarding and drone strikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Well, for starters saying that "superhero movies" are a genre by themselves is a mistake. It's the same as putting animated films as a genre. On both cases the genre depends on the movie. You could have a western superhero movie, for example, and if done well, people would eat that shit up.As a fan of westerns and Leone's take on the genre in particular, I do think they are kinda limited in a way. There's only so much you can do with it before drifting into already familiar territory or stuff that doesn't fit within it. When Leone did Once Upon a Time in the West, there was nothing left to say about westerns. He revived it and he killed it. In a way it's better they died out because we have less in quantity but more in quality. If they had kept on going, maybe we would have gotten sick of it. And besides, the western belongs to the 70's. It needs to look like film. Digital doesn't fit with the old west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Me and Spielberg look upon them as a genre. If it's a Western with superheroes (Batman with a Stetson!!) then it's a hybrid of genres.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhero_film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The western as a genre deals more with the characters than it does being set in the old west. It's very much alive today, just in different forms.Drive, for example, is a pure western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It actually makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 So to you a western is defined only by the recurring story/character elements. And not the locale, time period etc?Robocop might be a western then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yes. Films like Drive and El Mariachi have the same formula as your average western, but they aren't set in the 1800s. To me that time period is irrelevant to what makes the western genre so unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's a basic economic principle that if you flush the market with the same or similar product the consumer will eventually get tired of it. This will happen to the wave of superhero movies that the film industry is awash in now regardless of the quality of the films themselves. Some day expanded universe-style comic book movie making will fall out of fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 What goes up must come down.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There are only three Star Wars movies anyway.But isn't incredible how John Williams wrote those excellent three symphonies based on Star Wars fanfiction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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