#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay said: I hope Cary Fukunaga hires David Arnold to score this film. You mean Broccoli and Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 Yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I wonder if this means EON is done dicking around with auteurs and is returning to the tried and true formula of using journeymen directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It was one of those auteurs that gave us Skyfall. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Yes, and while I respect Mendes' work for that film, and to a lesser extent SPECTRE, it's pretty clear they wanted a Nolan-like movie, but they cannot get Nolan to direct a Bond film without giving him complete final cut rights, not Tarantino, or any serious "name" director. And since they apparently don't wanna do they they should just go for competent craftsman. They're only Bond films by the end of the day, after all. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Agreed. I for one wish they'd drop the entire subtext of Bond's past in these films. IMO it's OK to know a little about Bond's past, but certainly no more than the glimpse we got in Skyfall. I understand Craig is all about personalising the character to an extent never before, but I think you can only take that so far before Bond loses some of his mystique. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It worked well up until SPECTRE. We meet Bond's long lost foster brother and Bond doesnt give a shit. Bond's aloofness worked in Skyfall, when he went back to his roots. It doesnt work with the person who's supposed to be his Nemesis. Come to think of it. If Skyfall firmly established Bond doesnt give a shit about his childhood, who give him a brother? Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, Stefancos said: while I respect Mendes' work for that film, and to a lesser extent SPECTRE, it's pretty clear they wanted a Nolan-like movie, but they cannot get Nolan I like Christopher Nolan, but I would never consider Sam Mendes to be a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It worked well up until SPECTRE. We meet Bond's long lost foster brother and Bond doesnt give a shit. Bond's aloofness worked in Skyfall, when he went back to his roots. It doesnt work with the person who's supposed to be his Nemesis. Come to think of it. If Skyfall firmly established Bond doesnt give a shit about his childhood, who give him a brother? Just because he doesn't give a shit about his brother doesn't negate the fact that he has a brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I like Christopher Nolan, but I would never consider Sam Mendes to be a step down. Artistically he isnt. Far from it. But if Nolan directs a film it is a CHRISTOPHER NOLAN film. He's far more a name director than Mendes. Financially I'm sure EON could hire him, but I don't think they would ever wanna give him full creative control over their next film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Doesn't Skyfall's credits carry the tagline "A Sam Mendes film", too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Albert R. Brocolli's Eon Productions LTD. Presents Mendes only gets a director's credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Hey, Nolan could get deep into JB's psyche, with his "dark" trilogy: BOND BEGINS THE DARK BOND and THE DARK BOND RISES. I can wait. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 They already made the kinda Bond films Nolan would have made, so having him do one at this point would be a bit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Fukunaga is a very talented guy, so colour me cautiously intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 First American to do one of these too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 So'zis bloke any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 You wouldnt like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,361 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: It worked well up until SPECTRE. We meet Bond's long lost foster brother and Bond doesnt give a shit. Bond's aloofness worked in Skyfall, when he went back to his roots. It doesnt work with the person who's supposed to be his Nemesis. Come to think of it. If Skyfall firmly established Bond doesnt give a shit about his childhood, who give him a brother? Good point. In a similar contradictory fashion, Skyfall has Q's magnificent 'Were you expecting an exploding pen? We don't really go in for that sort of thing any more' ... only for him to present Bond with an exploding watch in SPECTRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Well I don't think that's really an issue. The Bond films have gone back and forth on the gadgets anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: First American to do one of these too! So what's Irvin Kershner, then? Chopped liver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Richard said: So what's Irvin Kershner, then? Chopped liver? Never Say Never Again is the only official film in the series. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 A series of one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Richard said: So what's Irvin Kershner, then? Chopped liver? Irvin Kersher never directed an official Bond film, as you know incredibly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Well that depends on how you define official. They had just as much right to make their Bond film as EON did theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Oh come on, are we really gonna split hairs here? Never Say Never Again is not an official Bond film, PERIOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I agree...with Steef. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is not official. It's not EON, it's not official. I was being a teeny weeny bit facetious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Also, while McGlory etc might have had the legal right to make another adaptation of Thunderball, they stole a lot from the EON Bonds when it comes to style and tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 58 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Never Say Never Again is not an official Bond film, PERIOD! Yeah, I know. But to be fair, the film is included in almost all Bond rankings that I've seen, and there's a great deal of affection for it among many Bond fans. BTW, if you haven't seen this, it's very entertaining and probably one of the best rankings of these films I've seen from a pretty knowledgable group. It's long, but worth a listen for those truly into Bondage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 So...is THUNDERBIRDS not official because it wasn't made by Gerry Anderson? Is STAR TREKs II to XIII not official, because they weren't made by Gene Roddenberry? Is EPSISODES VI to IX not official, because they weren't made by George Lucas? Is NU WHO not official because it's not made by Newman/Lambert? When does something become "unofficial"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Oh come on! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Richard's British. The correct phrase is "NOW SEE HERE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Richard said: So...is THUNDERBIRDS not official because it wasn't made by Gerry Anderson? Is STAR TREKs II to XIII not official, because they weren't made by Gene Roddenberry? Is EPSISODES VI to IX not official, because they weren't made by George Lucas? Is NU WHO not official because it's not made by Newman/Lambert? When does something become "unofficial"? Have any of these spend decades in court over this matter? I think you can not deny that legally speaking, NSNA is in no way an official Bond film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Richard's British. The correct phrase is "NOW SEE HERE!" Actually, Nick, I'm English, and the correct phrase is "NOW SEE HERE, MY GOOD MAN, IT'S NOT CRICKET!" Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 You 'avin' a laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Have any of these spend decades in court over this matter? I think you can not deny that legally speaking, NSNA is in no way an official Bond film Which Quicksilver is "official"? The one on the X-Men universe or the one in the MCU? 2 minutes ago, Richard said: Actually, Nick, I'm English, and the correct phrase is "NOW SEE HERE, MY GOOD MAN, IT'S NOT CRICKET!" I originally wrote English, but I wasn't sure. But you're also British in any event! Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Leave it aaaht, guv'ner! 2 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I originally wrote English, but I wasn't sure. But you're also British in any event! Deal with it. Fuck you, asshole! How's that for an English punchline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Which Quicksilver is "official"? The one on the X-Men universe or the one in the MCU? Was that ever settled in court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 pip pip cheerio! 3 minutes ago, Richard said: Fuck you, asshole! How's that for an English punchline? Wanker. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Cheery bye, what! Toodle loo, and tally ho! 2 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Wanker. ...and proud of it! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,361 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 NSNA doesn't have the 'gunbarrel' opening, or the Bond theme music. It has an insipidly crap song, a villain performance from Klaus-Maria Brandauer that seems to be from another movie entirely, Le Frenais and Clement recycling a joke from 'Porridge' (the 'beaker filling' exchange), and it wastes Rowan Atkinson. Thunderball is much, much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I agree, Thunderball is excellent. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I do have a thing for that NSNA title song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Same here, and there are a few parts of the score that work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The movie reminds me of that Clint movie Firefox for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The effects are very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Remember those sound effects in NSNA that were straight outta Superman III? They're all connected, these 1983 tech flicks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Probably because they are all Pinewood/Graham Hartstone jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeshift Python 22 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 There is this certain sound effect David Arnold used in some of the Bond songs he produced that always caught my attention. I don't know exactly what you call it, but it's this weird electronic buzzing sound right before kd Lang starts singing in "Surrender". You can even hear it in the songs he remade with artists on the Shaken and Stirred compilation album, and he would go onto use it for Bassey's "No Good About Goodbye". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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