#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 No. I will rather watch DS9 obsessively over and over again on Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 http://variety.com/2017/artisans/production/seth-macfarlane-orville-composers-1202548259/ http://scoringsessions.com/2017/09/08/broughton-mcneely-debney-score-macfarlanes-orville/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I've seen the show accused of overdoing temp love, but I still haven't heard a note outside of the main theme so I can't speak to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Here's a longer piece from the show by McNeely: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I believe Roddenberry would be pleased with the social relevance of the central plot of the third episode, About a Girl. However, as I write this, I realize the episode's major difference is the lack of a prime directive permits the Union officers to legally get involved with the cultural taboo in question. The result is still the same. I like this show's potential and I hope it resonates with enough fans in the nerdy Trek community and in the mainstream audience. It's not a comedy, it can be serious and heavy handed, but also doesn't take itself too seriously. It's got potential to be more than just TNG with dick, sex, and fart jokes. And right now, with its holodeck, forward facing lounge, multiple aliens, and a robot on the bridge who needs explanation about humanity at every turn, it's got a lot of TNG. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Ratings are plummeting, reviews were always poor. It will be another canceled FOX show. They should just cancel that entire network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Woj said: And right now, with its holodeck, forward facing lounge, multiple aliens, and a robot on the bridge who needs explanation about humanity at every turn, it's got a lot of TNG But we've already had TNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 30 years old. Time for "homages" and "love letters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 K. Now read the sentence that came before it. There's a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 I edited your post for redundant content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You of course being the expert on redundant content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,893 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: STD's ratings will plummet, reviews will always be poor. It will be another canceled CBS show. They should just cancel that entire network. *fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I sure hope so. I want this show to blow and fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: You of course being the expert on redundant content. Every post I've ever done has been extremely meaningful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 No, not really. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The majority of his posts are single words with an exclamation point either agreeing with or insulting people. He's the JWFan king of post padding. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 22 hours ago, Woj said: I believe Roddenberry would be pleased with the social relevance of the central plot of the third episode, About a Girl. However, as I write this, I realize the episode's major difference is the lack of a prime directive permits the Union officers to legally get involved with the cultural taboo in question. The result is still the same. I like this show's potential and I hope it resonates with enough fans in the nerdy Trek community and in the mainstream audience. It's not a comedy, it can be serious and heavy handed, but also doesn't take itself too seriously. It's got potential to be more than just TNG with dick, sex, and fart jokes. And right now, with its holodeck, forward facing lounge, multiple aliens, and a robot on the bridge who needs explanation about humanity at every turn, it's got a lot of TNG. The way they explained Orville getting involved was that it he was defending the life on a ship under his command. So that made enough sense that he had to try to defend and protect the life of someone vulnerable. The episodes so far have been quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Finally got around to watching episode 2. It is, indeed, MUCH better than episode 1! This could actually be a decent little show. It really doesn't take itself seriously at all, which is refreshing. It's still not terribly funny, but it is humorous at times and I enjoy the music, special effects, and cast. I think as it goes on and they figure out what works best and what doesn't it will just get better. The only problem could be trying to do 22 episodes a year. 13 would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Wait until you see episode 4; it's the best so far and I now officially am a fan of this show. (I didn't hate the pilot exactly but it also didn't really fill me with much confidence for the show to come.) Yavar Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yup the pilot left me with no confidence either, really. I'm glad I gave another episode a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 0:08 PM, Yavar Moradi said: Wait until you see episode 4; it's the best so far and I now officially am a fan of this show. (I didn't hate the pilot exactly but it also didn't really fill me with much confidence for the show to come.) Yavar I agree with this completely. If I was to introduce the show to somebody, this would be the episode I show. Almost everything worked, and I think having the plot mostly streamlined really works in the show's favor instead of multiple unrelated subplots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I actually liked episode 4 so much that it went by too fast! I think there was enough material in there for a two parter... Be warned that there are some major temp track lifts from Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams, Jay...though Joel McNeely does some lovely original stuff too. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I don't mind pastiche / ripoff scoring in this show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 That's good, because I think there's going to be a looooot more of it! The Goldsmith was almost a direct copy from TMP. Worked great though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 Didnt they steal from TESB last ep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: That's good, because I think there's going to be a looooot more of it! The Goldsmith was almost a direct copy from TMP. Worked great though! I told my wife the same thing when we watched it Friday night. The mystery music entering the derelict was straight up homage/knockoff of the mystery Vger music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Didnt they steal from TESB last ep? Yup, that too. I get the feeling Ol' Seth temped this series with his sci-fi soundtrack collection... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 OK I watched episode 3. It wasn't nearly as good as episode 2. The problem wasn't the story, which is OK, it was the directing. The whole episode had a lackadaisical pace, and many scenes went on a bit longer than needed, like the editor kept too much at the head and tail of each shot in. It was especially noticeable as each commercial break approached, they were awkward pauses to end a scene on a cliffhanger that just sat there for a while before it finally faded to the commercial break. Another problem is tonally. This week's story was a pretty serious one, and was mostly devoid of humor throughout, so when suddenly you have characters calling each other dicks in the middle of a scene it just doesn't mesh. I think they haven't found the right way to balance humor and Star Trek yet. And honestly, I wonder if they wouldn't be better off just ditching the attempts at vulgar comedy and just do what they seem to be able to do best: Make Star Trek episodes. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Viacom has a team of lawyers ready to sue these guys; This show isn't really a parody or homage to Star Trek, it basically IS Star Trek, in all but name. I wonder how long they'll get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I started watching this series the other day and found the first two episodes more rousing and faithful to the feel of Trek than Discovery! I agree with you, Jay, that in places the comedy elements don't always mesh with the rest of the tone the show seems to want to lean to. I think it's a double-edged sword with Orville, where the comedy either comes at the expense of spoofing Trek, or the drama comes at the expense of dropping the comedic tone. Is there a balance that can be found in a long format series? My thoughts are that Orville might have been better executed in a film or two, where the comedy can drive the plot and not have to be so concerned with the trapeze act that it seems to be following... Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 9:27 PM, Stefancos said: Didnt they steal from TESB last ep? Yes. But bad artists copy, good artists steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 I'm sure they copied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Watched episode 4. It was much better than episode 3, for sure. Probably the best ep yet, but still not GREAT tv or anything. I enjoyed the VGER-esque music for when they approached the derelict ship The dick jokes are still at odds with the genuinely good and serious stories they are telling, they should just abandon that entirely. Good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Dick jokes? Urgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Yea, its an odd creative choice for sure. Actually, almost all the jokes on the show really fall completely flat. Take them out, and you basically just have Star Trek TNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 With Seth as Picard? No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 no, none of the characters are like TNG counterparts, its just the same concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The fifth episode is almost a remake of the TNG episode with Max Headroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I might throw that one on in a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Woj said: The fifth episode is almost a remake of the TNG episode with Max Headroom. They should remake the TNG episode with Dr. Kelso!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: With Seth as Picard? No thank you. You still haven't seen this show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 He thinks he's taking the high ground by skipping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 23 hours ago, Jay said: no, none of hte characters are like TNG counterparts, its just the same concept Well, the android character is quite Data-like at times, and Bortus in terms of personality seems very Worf-like, even if his race's culture isn't quite a match for Klingons (but they seem a little more Klingon-like than STD's Klingons, IMO!) but aside from those two, I agree that these are very different characters in a TNG-like setting. Glad you liked the fourth episode as much as I did! I had a little trouble with the outright Vger music steal, although it was undeniably effective. I really loved the final cue, which was obviously the result of a temp track from either Insurrection or First Contact, but not a direct copy. This was the McNeely cue McFarlane shared on his Soundcloud in full, BTW. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Lol for Jason trying to judge TNG characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just watched episode 5, the one with Charlize Theron Probably the best episode yet. Pretty much everything worked, even the practical joke subplot blended in well and didn't stick out like a sore thumb. They still have a problem where the lead-in to each commercial break is awkward, its always weird and I dunno why this show has that problem when no other shows do I think I realized a change could could make the show a lot better: Seth Macfarlane shouldn't have cast himself as the captain. The captain should have been some kind of unknown actor with a lot of charisma and charm. Seth could play a secondary character who kinda pops in to do his jokes and stuff but not be the central character every plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I did like how this episode got the two helmsmen off the bridge and gave them something else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 You know what running subplot does nothing for me is Norm MacDonald's blob hitting on the doctor or whoever else comes along, pretty empty comedically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It's just an excuse to make his jello phallus in every episode. Pretty unfunny. I did like how the chief engineer used a frikkin power drill to defeat future tech. Star Trek rarely embraced twentieth century solutions to their problems. Every time shipwide communications went down on the Enterprise or Voyager, I would hope someone would replicate a pair of walkie-talkies, hook it up to a tricorder, switch to channel 5, and start talking. Nope, nothing. Dummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I liked how they were watching Seinfeld on the viewscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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