MSM 126 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Its not your opinion of the star system that counts, just use 4 stars so that Morlock can average the way he wants. Is that so damn difficult for some of you to do.I didn't know he was going to average things, I'm sorry already. But he can multiply my ratings by 4/5, it won't be that difficult either Just kidding, he can diminish my ratings by one star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterclarke 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 People are asking on SPR sites and BOB sites ,how to download the music,,I said...Buy it on Amazon ...you tight fisted gits...Best regards..T.Peter Clarke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 there are SPR sites??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 1. Schindler's List ****2. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial ****3. Jurassic Park ***4. Empire of the Sun ***5. Close Encounters of the Third Kind ***6. The Color Purple ***7. Raiders of the Lost Ark ***8. Catch Me If You Can **9. Jaws **10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade **11. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom **12. Minority Report **13. Saving Private Ryan *14. Lost World: Jurassic Park, The *15. Artificial Intelligence *16. 1941 *17. Always *18. Hook 1/2*19. AmistadHave yet to see The Sugarland Express movie; never heard the score as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 We need to have a "Worst Spielberg Film" Poll. I wonder if A.I. would actually win. Hook still has my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Read the rankings from bottom to top position and you get the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Meanwhile, banghead Rogue could do something to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 9. Jaws **Two Stars??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Yes, cope with it how you can. Though it might look strict, thing is I don't like using half's so that would be 3 stars on 5-star rating. Plus, it's too raw of a movie for me. And the scarier side of it is that it actually does happen in the seas (sharks eat people's limbs) is even scarier to me.Meanwhile...4 stars -- masterpiece3 stars -- excellent2 stars -- very good1 star -- not bad but not my favorite, toono star -- waste of celluloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Roman, what's the Hook rating again? It has a half, but it's in a confusing position.Great list, by the way. We'll do something about A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Roman, what's the Hook rating again? It has a half, but it's in a confusing position.Great list, by the way. We'll do something about A.I.It is just one star. I tried to imitate a half-star rating as I was wavering between nothing and one star but I concluded one star will suit the purpose for me. I saw "Hook" only twice and although I wasn't bored, I didn't like it that much.As for "A.I.", the movie, I like it because it has, beside JW's score, Haley Osment in it. It's a picture-perfect performance by the actor and the first 30-40 minutes or so are the movie's best moments. I'm fallen for Osment's acting, so I could be biased already. I have also, like many here, problems with the middle part, that's why I won't place "A.I." any higher on my scale. The multiple-endings story is a bit confusing, but I nevertheless end up in tears when curtain finally falls down, so I don't trash the film as a whole. In the end, it's Spielberg whom I will never abandon. And, in the very end, it's "only" the movie... I expect cold shower from Joe once he'll have spotted me placing Jaws that "low" on my list. I might better leave for home yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Read the rankings from bottom to top position and you get the results. Thats a thought! Still I'd like an actual poll to get the best overall consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 I'm gonna start calculating all the lists now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I'm gonna start calculating all the lists now.Atta boy! Get cracking on that and let us know what the deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 It's done! Here are the star ratings and ranks the films of Steven Spielberg have been given by JWfan.net. Two Notes: A. The Star Rating List is the more indicative and accurate of the two, as not everyone listed then by rank. Notice that there is a pretty big difference between the two lists- especialy Duel (though the top 4 spots have the same four scores on both lists) B. In the Star Rating list, there were two ties, which I resolved by the rank of the movies in the second list. By Star Rating: 1. Raiders of The Lost Ark- Star Rating: 3.83 2. Schindler's List- Star Rating: 3.78 3. E.T.- Star Rating: 3.76 4. Jaws- Star Rating:3.7 5. Jurrasic Park- Star Rating: 3.58 6. The Color Purple- Star Rating: 3.5 7. Close Encounters of The 3rd Kind- Star Rating: 3.3 8. The Sugarland Express- Star Rating: 3.3 9. Duel- Star Rating: 3.3 10. Minority Report- Star Rating: 3.21 11. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade- Star Rating: 3.19 12. Saving Private Ryan- Star Rating: 3.13 13. Empire of The Sun- Star Rating: 3.13 14. Catch Me If You Can- Star Rating: 3.11 15. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom- Star Rating: 2.66 16. Amistad- Star Rating: 2.57 17. Hook- Star Rating: 2.5 18. A.I.- Star Rating: 2.3 19. 1941- Star Rating: 2.2 20. The Lost World- Star Rating: 2.13 21. Always- Star Rating: 2.03 By Rank: 1. E.T.- Rank: 3.7 2. Raiders of The Lost Ark- Rank: 4.07 3. Schindler's List- Rank: 4.3 4. Jaws- Rank: 4.9 5. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade- Rank: 8.5 6. Minority Report- Rank: 8.66 (tie) 6. The Color Purple- Rank: 8.66 (tie) 8. Close Encounters of The 3rd Kind- Rank: 8.7 9. Saving Private Ryan- Rank: 8.85 10. Empire of The Sun- Rank: 10.13 11. Jurrasic Park- Rank: 10.21 12. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom- Rank: 10.57 13. Catch Me If You Can- Rank: 11.15 14. A.I.- Rank: 12.5 15. The Sugarland Express- Rank: 12.7 16. Hook- Rank: 13.96 17. Amistad- Rank: 14.33 18. The Lost World- Rank: 14.71 19. 1941- Rank: 15.09 20. Duel- Rank: 16.2 21. Always- Rank: 17.72 Thank for your cooperation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Yours is the credit for that. Great work, Morlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I'm working on writing a piece that explores those issues. For me this is not something that can be just explained in a post.Anybody else think these 2 statements are totally contradictory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I'm working on writing a piece that explores those issues. For me this is not something that can be just explained in a post.Anybody else think these 2 statements are totally contradictory?By post I mean briefly written in terms of both time and length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 So how many pages are you writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 So how many pages are you writing?Haven't even started. I'm writing my java classes at the moment. If you are interested, feel free to google DreamworksSKG A.I. Talkback and read all posts by diskobolus_player.NB this is my 500th post. i like how it ended up pertaining to a.i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 This is difficult. I love most oof Speilberg's movies quite a bit, so it's almost like ranking loved things, which can be difficult. All of them, even the ones I don't like as much as others, are still very, very good films, IMO.These are my personal rankings according to my taste. They are not meant to say my opinion is better than others... this is just my opinion.01. Raiders of the Lost Ark **** 02. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom **** 03. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade **** 04. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial **** 05. A.I. Artificial Intelligence **** 06. Schindler's List **** 07. Jurassic Park ****08. The Lost World: Jurassic Park **** 09. Jaws **** 10. Hook **** 11. Empire of the Sun ****12. Saving Private Ryan ***1/213. Minority Report ***1/214. 1941 ***15. Close Encounters of the Third Kind ***16. Always ***17. Duel ***18. The Sugarland Express **1/219. Catch Me If You Can **1/2 20. Amistad **1/2 --. The Color Purple (NO RATING) I have not seen this yet mainly because Johnny didn't do the score and secondly, I've just plain never seen it on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 DAMMIT I MISSED IT! :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 D'oh! Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I was wondering how Chris got 20 movies by using Duel, which isn't a theatrical film. Its just an above average tv movie of the week, practically Lifetime tv stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 TV movies can be better than theatrical movies. Especially now with all the special audience targeting that is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 maybe Alex, but Duel is just an above average tv movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Surely you're kidding, Joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 we've discussed that at your site Steven, I don't think Duel is anything but a tv movie, its an orange, and Spielberg's movies are apples. They are not the same.And Duel while it is very good isn't one of the great tv movies, its not in Lonesome Doves quality. I don't even think its as good as the Mission, which is a tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banthapoodoo 0 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 20. Always 19. Hook18. 194117. Empire of the Sun 16. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 15. Amistad14. Lost World: Jurassic Park, The 13. AI: Artificial Intelligence12. Color Purple The 11. Catch Me If You Can 10. Sugarland Express, The 9. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade8. Minority Report7. Jurassic Park6. Close Encounters of the Third Kind5. Raiders of the Lost Ark 4. Jaws3. Saving Private Ryan2. Schindler's List(Drumroll.......................................)1. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Bantha, your avatar is an insult to Harrison Ford's left arm! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I got bad news for you, Joe. It IS one of the very great TV movies and always has been. It even accomplished something not many TV movies did before or after. It actually had gotten an theatrical release outside the US. And what's more, Joe, it is a classic; many TV films that came after tried to copy Duel. It defined a genre. It has the most simple subject and yet it's a full length effective TV movie. It has a amazing "killer" ending. And people still use it as a reference. It's a blueprint movie for films like Jaws and The Terminator.I'm afraid 'just above average' doesn't apply to Duel. A genius is at work here. I'm sorry that you missed all that.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted March 11, 2004 Author Share Posted March 11, 2004 I only saw 3/4 of it (not including the end), and I thought it was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Alex, I saw Duel the night it originally aired. Its an above average tv movie, and nothing more, its not genius. The fact that it was released overseas means nothing. It suffers on the big screen from the fact that it was shot strictly for tv and looks akward and cropped. I saw it at a midnight showing here in town too.I'm sorry you see more than that whats there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Alex, I saw Duel the night it originally aired. Its an above average tv movie, and nothing more, its not genius. The fact that it was released overseas means nothing. It suffers on the big screen from the fact that it was shot strictly for tv and looks akward and cropped. I saw it at a midnight showing here in town too.I'm sorry you see more than that whats there.The world doesn't just disapper when you bury your head in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 The world doesn't just disapper when you bury your head in the sand.and that is some kind of meaningful retort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 What does the fact that you did see it on the night it first aired add to your argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Joe, things made for TV. There's more to a good movie that how 'big' it seems. Personally I think the soprano's is better than any mob movie except Little Caesar from the 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 I know we've talked about it before Joe. I was just hoping to prod you with a stick a bit to see you get your angry old man thing going "I walked through 20 straight miles of snow drifts and battled a Yeti to see Duel on opening night when you weren't even a stain in your father's pants!" - Joe.As always, I have great respect for your opinion, no matter how much it differs, but I'd have to say Alex is seeing the film for what most do (certainly myself included). The film stands head and shoulders above the majority of nearly every TV movie ever committed to film, just from its purely brilliant construction (storytelling and visually).To say Duel is a lesser work than Spielberg's The Mission is debatable, but its highly debatable since The Mission, while fun, is a flawed work that doesn't even enter the same league as Duel.You seem to have a preconceived prejudice for Duel, stemming mostly from its lineage I would guess. If it was released theatrically instead of for TV first in the States, do you think it would've changed your opinion? The film came very close to being made for the theatre, but the big sticking point was a lack of a marquee name to make Universal back it as such.And you can bet, despite having to compose his images for the Academy ratio (which ain't no shame?many of cinema's masters spent their entire careers within that squarish frame) that Spielberg shot that film like a theatrical film (its more than evident, as it is in every TV work he did) and not the run of the mill quick TV filler.So give us some detail?what exactly doesn't work for you that keeps you from valuing the film like so many others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 What does the fact that you did see it on the night it first aired add to your argument?I was thinking the same thing. I also don't happen to agree with the statement that overseas releases don't mean a thing. I find it quite a bit a strange remark, not to say offensive. It's certainly not a valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 I was thinking the same thing. I also don't happen to agree with the statement that overseas releases don't mean a thing. I find it quite a bit a strange remark, not to say offensive. It's certainly not a valid argumentI was just pointing out that I have been familiar with the film for a long time.why are you offended when I saw so what to a theatrical release overseas.Why not just show it the way it was meant to be seen, on tv. It was funny to see Steven in the back seat on the big screen, how did that guy get there my friend asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 why are you offended when I saw so what to a theatrical release overseas. I dunno, I guess it is being a bit of an america-centred snob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 LOL! I'm happy to see that my inclusion of Duel has added to this thread, LOL!I liked it quite a bit, although I only saw it once, as you can see, I liked it better than some of Steven's big-screen films. As for Morn, I agree with you: The Sopranos is better than most films out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 why are you offended when I saw so what to a theatrical release overseas. I dunno, I guess it is being a bit of an america-centred snob.that wasn't the point I was making, but if some of you are sensitive, get over it.my point was and is that Duel is a tv movie, always has been regardless that it was show theatrically overseas. It was meant for the small screen. Seeing Duel on the big screen is like watching How the West was Won, on a tv in Pan in Scan. Neither format was what it was designed for.Plain and simple, now take your feelings off your shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Who would have thought people had such strong feelings about Duel? I've never even seen it...Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Ahhh good Raiders is number 1 as it should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 my point was and is that Duel is a tv movie, always has been regardless that it was show theatrically overseas. It was meant for the small screen. Seeing Duel on the big screen is like watching How the West was Won, on a tv in Pan in Scan. Neither format was what it was designed for. What does what device you watch it with have to do with it's quality as a movie though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I still haven't heard any argument why Duel is a mere above average TV movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Yeah, I felt my posts asking Joe to give us his views in detail were completely ignored! What gives Joe? Scared to step up to the plate? And who was heckling that poor A.I. fan in another thread about giving his views of why A.I. is great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted Thursday at 05:07 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:07 AM A twenty year old thread? Don't mind if I do. I'll only rank the ones I've seen, obviously. Schindler's List Jaws Close Encounters of the Third Kind Saving Private Ryan Jurassic Park Raiders of the Lost Ark E.T. Lincoln Munich The Last Crusade Minority Report Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Tintin Temple of Doom The Terminal War Horse The BFG War of the Worlds Catch Me if you Can West Side Story A.I. Amistad The Lost World Hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWScores 28 Posted Thursday at 11:50 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:50 AM Why not? Here is my list, with ratings from 1 to 5 (only those that I've seen, of course): Schindler's List 5/5 A.I. Artificial Intelligence 5/5 Minority Report 5/5 Jurassic Park 5/5 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 4/5 Munich 4/5 Saving Private Ryan 4/5 Empire of the Sun 4/5 War Horse 4/5 Jaws 4/5 Raiders of the Lost Ark 3/5 Close Encounters of the Third Kind 3/5 War of the Worlds 3/5 The Lost World: Jurassic Park 3/5 The BFG 3/5 The Fabelmans 3/5 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 3/5 The Adventures of Tintin 2/5 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 2/5 Hook 2/5 Catch Me If You Can 2/5 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 1/5 The Terminal 1/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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