The Doctor Who Thread.....

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Well, in the one snippet we've heard of him speaking in character (the 'What the hell is going on here?!?') he sounded more African than anything else to me. But that could be a regeneration quirk or something, for all I know. 

Out of the 'Scot Docs' so far, McCoy and Capaldi used their own accents but Tennant didn't (apart from Tooth And Claw). 

So when it comes to Ncuti who knows, eh? Who knows ... 

[TBO1711 32]

Bit hard to hear but some behind the scene footage of Ncuti on set

Spoiler

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cx83S5kMz3b/?img_index=2

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Out of the 'Scot Docs' so far, McCoy and Capaldi used their own accents but Tennant didn't (apart from Tooth And Claw).

 

For the other characters, it's a put-on accent. For the viewers, it's his real accent.

How very meta 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Docteur Qui said:

Do we know yet if Gatwa's using his native Scottish accent? I really hope so, there's something just so right about that accent and the dialogue of this show.

 

I hear Scottish accents each and every day, up here.

[Brónach 1,302]

my bet is that Fifteen will have an scottish accent, unclear on which one

[TBO1711 32]

To answer my own question about whether they will use new theme for specials.

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The specials will feature a new theme tune, which is set to debut on BBC Radio 2 on 15 October 2023, as part of Doctor Who @60: A Musical Celebration

 

[Tallguy 3,398]

Not that anyone else has been in the running but how many theme tunes is this for Gold? Six? Seven? (Do we count Smith as having two?)

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

12 hours ago, Brónach said:

my bet is that Fifteen will have an scottish accent, unclear on which one

 

Probably Edinburgh.

[Tallguy 3,398]

Don't they all just sound like James Doohan?

 

(RUNS)

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

7 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Don't they all just sound like James Doohan?

(RUNS)

 

I thought that that's how all Scottish people spoke, until I moved up here. Like any country, there are very marked regional dialects. Add Gaelic - an entirely different language - into the mix (with all its regional dialects), and, to an Englishman, it can sound pretty confusing, sometimes. Some people even speak English and Gaelic in the same sentence.

[Tallguy 3,398]

"What happened to them?'

 

CHILLS! After 13 years and STILL.

 

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

I thought that that's how all Scottish people spoke, until I moved up here. Like any country, there are very marked regional dialects. Add Gaelic - an entirely different language - into the mix (with all its regional dialects), and, to an Englishman, it can sound pretty confusing, sometimes. Some people even speak English and Gaelic in the same sentence.

 

I didn't think anybody thought that Scotts sounded like Doohan. Although my kids think they all sound like David Tennant.

 

A friend got to go on holiday in the UK and got to tour Scottland. He said the farther north you got the darker it got and the harder it got to understand people.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

That is exactly right.

I live on the (very) West Coast, and local dialects often sound southern Irish.

My FM radio is tuned, permanently, to Radio nan Gàidheal. I could listen to spoken Gaelic, all day.

I only know a couple of phrases off by heart, but I'm due to start learning it.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

An Irish (Northern or Southern) Doctor, would be interesting, as would a Welsh one (I know there was the joke about it in Staged, but I wonder if Sheen ever HAS come close?). 

[Brónach 1,302]

3 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

would be interesting, as would a Welsh one

 

make the show in welsh

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Mmm ... fairly sure the vast majority of viewers would rather not watch Who with subtitles/closed captioning. 

[Brónach 1,302]

don't care. cater to me!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

19 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

 I wonder if Sheen ever HAS come close?). 

 

The closest that Sheen has gotten, is House, in "The Doctor's Wife".

 

 

21 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

An Irish (Northern or Southern) Doctor, would be interesting...

 

"You are The Doctor. You will be ex-ter-min-a-ted!"

 

"Eeh, feck off, yer little gobshite".

[Marian Schedenig 8,200]

6 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

An Irish (Northern or Southern) Doctor, would be interesting, as would a Welsh one (I know there was the joke about it in Staged, but I wonder if Sheen ever HAS come close?). 

 

Maybe Anthony Hopkins would be interested?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

We've already had one Welsh Time Lord.

[DarthDementous 1,059]

14 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Mmm ... fairly sure the vast majority of viewers would rather not watch Who with subtitles/closed captioning. 

And apparently many did when Capaldi was Doctor

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

15 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Maybe Anthony Hopkins would be interested?

A nice thought, but I suspect at his age the part requires too much running. Indeed, the lack of same required is cited as a reason by Tom Baker as to why he enjoys making Fourth Doctor audio adventures. 

[Brónach 1,302]

they should just make the doctor run less anyways

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

8 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

And apparently many did when Capaldi was Doctor

 

I'm not surprised, given where Capaldi comes from.

 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Brónach said:

they should just make the doctor run less anyways

 

Oh, no! Where would DW be, if there were no corridors with shaky sets, to run down?

[Brónach 1,302]

George Lucas makes his characters walk calmly through corridors just fine!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

No, it's always "faster and more intense" 

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

13 hours ago, Brónach said:

they should just make the doctor run less anyways

 

The Ninth Doctor's first word to Rose, 16 years after show went off the air, was "Run!". It's a core tenet of the entire show, at least since it was revived.

 

Rule one: The Doctor lies runs

 

...but what they actually need to do is not have the Doctor stop and turn after running so much. That's what did in both Capaldi and Smith's knees. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

22 hours ago, Brónach said:

they should just make the doctor run less anyways

 

Like The Master with a Zimmer frame, in "Curse Of Fatal Death" 

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

We have new rumours. 

 

Spoiler

At the end of the specials, Fourteen will 'bigenerate' - Gatwa's Fifteen will generate FROM him but NOT 'replace' him, allowing Fourteen and Donna to head off on their own adventures in a Disney+ spinoff series. And a spinoff series focusing on UNIT is apparently also on the way on Disney+. 

 Davies did say he'd big plans for the show.  

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

That means that there will be three versions of Doctor #10: 10, the Metacrisis Doctor, and #14.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Now THAT'S popularity, lol. 

[TBO1711 32]

Yeah, i don't believe that Rumour

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

I don't want to believe it, but if it's true, then I'm afraid that The Mouse has gotten its grubby little protuberances on DW, and like the malignant virus it is, it will bleed the show dry, before moving on.

[Tallguy 3,398]

I don't believe it because I don't see RTD putting a "representation matters" Doctor in competition with The Most Popular Doctor Ever. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

I hope you're right.

[Brónach 1,302]

3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

We have new rumours. 

 

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At the end of the specials, Fourteen will 'bigenerate' - Gatwa's Fifteen will generate FROM him but NOT 'replace' him, allowing Fourteen and Donna to head off on their own adventures in a Disney+ spinoff series. And a spinoff series focusing on UNIT is apparently also on the way on Disney+. 

 Davies did say he'd big plans for the show.  

 

 

this is a ridiculous idea and i don't believe it

[Tallguy 3,398]

It's an interesting idea. Heck, RTD already flirted with it when he created the Human Doctor and chucked him off into E space (or whatever the Rose dimension is called).

 

You can certainly have two Doctors who are different enough. Smith / Tennant vs. Capaldi comes to mind. Or even 10 / 11 vs. 9. But how do you have SHOWS that are different enough? I guess if you took a 3rd Doctor "The Man from UNCLE but he's an ALIEN" vs. pretty much everyone else?

 

OTOH, I could see them doing something that would allow Tennant to come back as the Doctor whenever he felt like it no matter how old he gets. Not a separate show but certainly an open door.

 

I certainly believe that RTD has a whole raft of spinoffs up his sleeve. It's how he was operating BEFORE he had the backing of The Mouse. UNIT makes as much sense as anything. They should try to hire Clark Gregg, just as a hoot.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

The UNIT spinoff sounds more plausible to me than the Fourteen and Donna one, I must admit. They might do well to bear in mind that the last time they tried (Class), it was scrapped after a single season due to poor viewing figures. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

35 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

It's an interesting idea. Heck, RTD already flirted with it when he created the Human Doctor and chucked him off into E space (or whatever the Rose dimension is called)

 

It called "Pete's World" 

Btw, RTD didn't chuck the Human Doctor off into E space. That was Romana #2, and K9.

[Tallguy 3,398]

8 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

Btw, RTD didn't chuck the Human Doctor off into E space. That was Romana #2, and K9.

 

I am aware.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/doctor-who-archive-on-bbc-iplayer

[Brónach 1,302]

i don't think doctor who gives itself easily to spinoffs. it's not like gundam or star trek.

[Tallguy 3,398]

17 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/doctor-who-archive-on-bbc-iplayer

 

I wonder what Doctor Who will be in Disney+ here in the USA. Currently I have my nuWho on Max and my classic on BritBox.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Brónach said:

i don't think doctor who gives itself easily to spinoffs. it's not like gundam or star trek.

 

Well RTD managed to do it twice to certain degrees of success.

 

And you KNOW someone wants to do Abslom Daak: The Miniseries.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

38 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/doctor-who-archive-on-bbc-iplayer

 

The Fugitive Doctor? Really?

They're not retconning that bollocks?

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Ach, don't be such a grump. This is a good thing overall, no? 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

Who says I'm a grump?

Every existing DW episode to be available? That's... f-f-fantastic.

"The 60s, 70s, 80s and beyond". Er... yeah, that would be the 90 singular (I don't count "Dimensions In Time", or "Curse Of Fatal Death") 

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

The UNIT spinoff sounds more plausible to me than the Fourteen and Donna one, I must admit. They might do well to bear in mind that the last time they tried (Class), it was scrapped after a single season due to poor viewing figures. 

A shame as I really enjoyed Class, probably moreso than Torchwood and it was a bit more adult than Sarah-Jane Adventures (delightful though they were).

 

The rumour sounds like plausible wishful thinking but you never know...

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

Squee!

[Tallguy 3,398]

It's... Not bad? I love the chorus on the middle eight. Is... That the DEBNEY theme?

 

Gold's themes for 9, 11, and 12 are so completely distinctive. Even the adjustment for 10's fourth season stands out. This is kind of a mishmash of Gold's other themes. Which might be what the series is going to be?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

10 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

It's... Not bad? I love the chorus on the middle eight. Is... That the DEBNEY theme?

 

I noticed the Debney theme, too. It's the piano line, isn't it?

[Tallguy 3,398]

27 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

I noticed the Debney theme, too. It's the piano line, isn't it?

 

Yup. I think so, anyway. Most noticeable at 0:44.