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  1. thestat

    Open minds

    The key thing with anything Holkenborg or Junk/o is that Conrad Pope is now his go-to guy for conducting orchestras. This must have been a development from that Boss Baby cue that Hans asked Pope to do. Anyways, Pope, the man that does shit for JW is doing Junkie stuff can tell you about the change in quality from a Deadpool to Mortal Engines. Different worlds and massively awesome scores. Battle Angel is fantastic in some of its weird allusions to, of all frigging things, Trevor Jones' seminal Dark City, and I argue to even Huppertz's score for Metropolis (Junk boy is an avid fan of film music). There's a moment in Battle Angel track 5, at 0:59 t0 1:15 that is either a Huppertz reference, or even geekier for you guys, a Harry Sukman, Salem's Lot, ding don. To my mind, the 10 or so seconds in this Junkie score rival a Jones on fire:, 1:55 - 2:30. And even a Williams......If you like your Dark City.....
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Balfe has never composed a single piece of music that identifies him as the composer. Junk+boyo is very easy to distinguish as his style is so obvious.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Balfe is a copycat, Junk XL has his own style.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Man, Junkie's now the front-runner for this and Avatar. I say awesome - he showed melodic skills worth of a Poledouris with Mortal Engines and orchestral fireworks worthy of Goldenthal with Alita. He is the obvious and the best choice for the franchise.
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    Open minds

    Awesome, that's exactly my perspective on old Junk'o! But he is really hitting his stride with Mortal Engines and Battle Angel, I do hope he gets both Avatar and Dune, he is the most interesting composer working right now. I mean I love Silvestri and JNH but yeah, a Junk score would be awesome. Sorry...... Der Junk is arguably more creative than, say, a Silvestri. We know what Alan's score to Avatar would sound like and that opening cue to Ready Player One did no one any favours, least of Cameron. JNH is the next big baby. A man of so-so-so-so-so many talents. We all know the JNH sound, but for the industry he is a man of interchangebility. So yeah, let's find someone new. Bring back Trevor Jones or just get the old Junk on. Balfe is a cheap approximation. Balfe is the McScore industry - cheap and cheeerful. Good for Free Willy 7 but not so great for anything else. Who hires Balf......... McBalfe - an extinct piece of what what........ Well, for all our sakes, let's hope we get a Mission Impossible by Junkie. Anything by the Balfe is a joke.
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    Open minds

    The orchestrations are beautiful - just to hear all those instuments in a modern score is a win
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    Open minds

    Well, if you like Golden Age scores and Max Steiner you will love the theme that old Holkenborg concocted for Battle Angel.
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    Open minds

    Sorry, used a Jerry tag to get you in here. I used to despise Junk XL. I hated everything the guy did, except the end credits to The Dark Tower which is an awesome combination of Broughton and Zimmer,. Mortal Engines - man, Peter Jackson sure has a way to make intelligent people re-assess artists. I mean Shore in 2000 was a difficult art composer, melody and Shore did not meet often. But when they did, they were beautiful, Big or The Yards. And then of course LOTR I thought, Junkie was literally Junk. I hated that drone brass sound he uses. But then Mortal Engines came along. Yes, it's Pope in the massive orchestra but it's also so frigging junkie in melody and style. And have a go at that Brimstone tutorial. Or Becoming a Tomb Raider, or any of the cues from Mortal Engines Listen, I geek out at Joel McNeely doing a brass blast in Orville - I'd orgasm at a McNeely Star Wars score, a real one. But hey ho, I recommend my sir Junkie to both Dune and Avatar. If you don't like it have have a listen to Battle Angel Alita. My favourite: have a go at The Warrior Within, and listen to from 2:17 - 2:30, and for older folks is there a Harry Sukman reference in there earlier?
  9. That brass figure that kicks off The Fight - that right there is why McNeely is a huge genious, especially when it kicks into high gear in the first minute of the track. The Cottell stuff, in response to Jay, seems much more like Original Series Star Trek, probably on intention. But it's not exactly the fireworks that McNeely, especially, provides with his impeccable command of brass.
  10. Never enough love for this score. Haven't watched the show but adore, fucking adore, the score! For all of you taking the piss out of Debney and McNeely as Williams imitators, it is so easy to see their styles in the scores here, once the episodes change. 1. The Broughton stuff is the Broughton - professional, theme from Silverado gets a workout 2. The Debney stuff is fantastic - whatever political problems I had with the dude disappear with this coctail of bombastic mayhem. Yes, someone had a good listen to many Silvestri scores....but this is such a treasure trove of riches, check out track 16 cd1, incorretly labelled as McNeely digitally. Awesome Goldsmith / Folk bombasticism (and a bit of a nod to Poledouris) 3. The McNeely stuff is even better. Jesus this stuff is orgasmic. Kill Attack the Orville and The Fight are sensational pieces of film music. 4. The Cottell stuff - what the duck. That brass figure that kicks off The Fight - that right there is why McNeely is a huge genious.
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    Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

    Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination. That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Stefancos: 'Its a awfully dated book that should probably be retired rather then adapted again. Its position of women is backwards and appaling, and to have a "middle eastern" desert dwelling folk call for a Jihad is incredibly problematic in this day and age'. Well, yes and so are parts of LOTR, but with someone like Villeneauve at the helm, these will be the targets of the new film, a deconstruction of empire, fascism and well, Brexit and Trump, a story for our times right there, big bloated bad guy barons and cowardly politicians.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Again, everyone's going to hate this but give it to Junkie, a lot of Mortal Engines even skirts around the Toto Spice theme. I think the guy's been beaten into his senses by working with people who know film scores - Rodriquez and Cameron. There is no Lorne Balfe shitbagging here (let's put a few bongos in there to make it 'original', and pretend we do film musak). Cameron invented so many scoring styles in collaboration with his composers. Whether this be Fiedel's cold metallic madness or Horner's aggressive wagnerian bombasticism with Aliens, they break boundaries. I cannot think of anyone to take up the Avatar mantle outside of JNH, but he may be too obvious for old Jimbo Cameron. For Villeneuve, it depends on the style. Johannson's folk will be all over it but Sicario 2 did not exactly bring out....well anyone. Wallfisch is good of course but he's not great with large epic stuff. It depends how much of an investment this is for the studio. If they go for a LOTR situation they could try out some great composers out of the norm. They could hire a Panu Aaltio , or as they always should, they go for Chad Seiter Especially Seiter is criminally overlooked as a composer.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    When talking about franchises, I meant Hans does not abide with franchise identity, does he? He COMES into franchises (take this literally or otherwise) but nothing great ever comes out of it until they reboot. He does franchises, a bit like Debbie does Dallas, but they do not end up well. It is distressing to witness the Zimmeriziation of film scoring - I love the guy's scores, I hate the business/franchising model. Agree with Romao there. contemporary pop does not frigging work for epics!
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    Villenueve's Dune

    That Toto score was a miracle of many meetings. And I love it to bits - astonishing that Paich could hold them all together to come up with the main theme etc/ Wonder if young boy JNH had any role here?
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