Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I actually thought Goblet of Fire was the worst. It was just so fucking cheesy, but like not in a good way.I agree with you. It's also a bit of a downer. Yeah the ending with Harry hugging a corpse with Doyle hamming it up in the background with the string section is a little bit too much for a children's film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 OOTP was the biggest let-down and the first Potter film I was disappointed by. HBP was slightly better than OOTP. Deathly Hallows P1&2 I felt did a good job at capturing the books but I actually liked the camping scenes in the book whereas I know many others don't.Does anyone know who's attached to score FBAWTFT?Desplat will be unable due to Rogue One so they'll have to bring in Williams to fill in.Knowing Desplat, he could cram this in as well. I kinda feel like we're gonna get Hooper again, though.Or, considering Yates is already borrowing Tim Burton's cinematographer and costume designer....maybe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 OOTP was the biggest let-down and the first Potter film I was disappointed by. HBP was slightly better than OOTP. Deathly Hallows P1&2 I felt did a good job at capturing the books but I actually liked the camping scenes in the book whereas I know many others don't.Does anyone know who's attached to score FBAWTFT?Desplat will be unable due to Rogue One so they'll have to bring in Williams to fill in. Knowing Desplat, he could cram this in as well. I kinda feel like we're gonna get Hooper again, though.Or, considering Yates is already borrowing Tim Burton's cinematographer and costume designer....maybe....Oh fuck no... not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 It would certainly be an original choice for a quirky fantasy movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What the hell? Goblet of Fire is perhaps the best Potter film behind Prisoner of Azkaban. Everything turned to shit after GoF. Marco Beltrami could do a good score? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Gruesome Son of a Bitch and mrbellamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I will never ever justify Yates's style... Bring back Mike Newell or Cuaron. Talking about Pottermore, are you able to just view the extra info now or do you still have to play games and waste time in general? WHAT? YOU WANT ANOTHER NEWELL FILM, AFTER THE ONE WHERE EVERYONE HAD WEIRD HAIRCUTS AND WAS SHOUTING ALL THE TIME AS IF THEY WERE SKYY38, WHERE DOYLE'S SCORE WAS SUPER LOUD TO EMPHASIZE HOW EVERYTHING HAPPENING ON SCREEN WAS SUPER IMPORTANT AND BIG, AND THE EDITING WAS AS CHOPPY AND FAST-PACED AS IT GETS, AS IF YOU WERE WATCHING A LENGTHY TRAILER OF THE FILM INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL FILM? OK, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO WANT THAT, BUT I SAY NO THANK YOU! IS ANYONE ELSE HEARING A BUZZING SOUND? That's still better than Yates' disinterested approach, effectively draining the magic of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 YES, I WANT NEWELL AGAIN, AND I LOVED DOYLE'S SCORE! OKAY, EVERYONE DID SHOUT A LOT BUT THE MAGIC AND TENSOIN WAS THERE! I agree that GOF was fast-paced, but if you think about it, the movie didn't leave any loopholes in the plot. As for Doyle's emotional ending, it's not a kid's movie so it's perfectly possible there. I watched the film at the age of 12, knowing what was gonna happen, and I was still a bit of a mess after the finale because of its intensity. When Yates came along, it was all just like, oky, Sirius is dead, whatever, and now Dumbledore, whatever... and oh, there's Voldemort, totally not scary anymore! Yates, as someone already said, seems disinterested in everything. Hell, they didn't even explain the importancy of the prophecy, Snape's Worst Memory was messed up, Nicholas Hooper came along... Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The HP movies started off kinda boring, got more exciting, then got boring again. I think the one that turned out the best was probably Prisoner of Azkaban. I like that nothing really happens in that one. Like, you can skip it and not miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The HP movies started off kinda boring, got more exciting, then got boring again. I think the one that turned out the best was probably Prisoner of Azkaban. I like that nothing really happens in that one. Like, you can skip it and not miss anything.The only book/film without Voldemort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Really, the only thing that POA contributes to the overall storyline is the introduction of a couple supporting characters that they could have just thrown into the later movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Askaban isn't focused on some slow-brewing threat like the other films. It's much more self-contained and that helps it overall for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm interested, how is GOF a mess? Skipping Azkaban is impossible because it introduces Sirius and Lupin and Trelawney, and it has a very interesting score. OOTP is dull but introduces Umbridge and disposes of Sirius again, a relationship never handled well to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 It was handled well in the books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Oh absolutely, I meant in the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What the hell? Goblet of Fire is perhaps the best Potter film behind Prisoner of Azkaban. Everything turned to shit after GoF.Marco Beltrami could do a good score? No?Beltrami knocked it out of the park with Seventh Son, so I'd be happy if he got the gig.I think Desplat will end up scoring Fantastic Beasts -- it's a pipe dream if Yates wanted and/or got Williams. Let's not forget Giacchino had several summer movies this year opening weeks within each other, and he managed to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The HP movies started off kinda boring, got more exciting, then got boring again. I think the one that turned out the best was probably Prisoner of Azkaban. I like that nothing really happens in that one. Like, you can skip it and not miss anything.Azkaban is still one of the oddest multi-million dollar blockbusters to come along, I think. It has all the Hollywood flourishes but at times feels kind of like a mid-budget Gilliam fantasy. I love all the practical stuff in that one too for all the simple magic like the waitress turning over chairs, the Monster book, Lupin's suitcase folding in on itself. They never really showed much of that outside of that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I only agree with Karkaroff and Priori Incantatem... and something else I don't remember anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Not to mention in the books you actually got to know Cedric Diggory and Cho Chang, they weren't just disposable charactersAnd don't forget the totally botched Quidditch World Cup / Dark Mark sequence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Hmm... I never found Cedric important to begin with. As for Cho, I partly agree, but Yates had way more Cho material he neglected. Oh well, I suppose the upsde is that we never heard more lame romantic music for Harry's failed date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 And don't forget the totally botched Quidditch World Cup / Dark Mark sequence!I originally wanted to mention that, but then I thought someone would say: "But the Quidditch match doesn't add anything to the plot!", which is true, even if it would have been great to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I always thought it was an odd choice to actually show Barty Jr wandering around Hogwarts, etc. In the book its such a big surprised when the whole plot is unveiled!So I guess nobody misses Hermione's House Elves subplot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 There's also no appearance of the girl Dobby, which was a big disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Better no Dobby than no Moaning Myrtle. The SPEW plotline could have been nice, though. Actually, that two-part idea wouldn't have been so bad after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 - Dumbledore acting like a loony old manOne thing that annoyed me about the later movies was how they seemed to be inspired by the look of POA. I think what the DP did for that flick worked, but the other ones just amplified it to the extreme and got uglier and uglier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 None of those Harry Potter DPs seemed to like anamorphic. I'm like yeah another fake widescreen Super 35 flick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 And here's the basic plot. Vaguely interested now, though it would have been better if they had cut the creature crap and just worked with the people's relationship in the US: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/04/fantastic-beasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 That's really just the setup, not the basic plot.Decent setup, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm interested, how is GOF a mess?The whole concept of the Tri-wizard competition makes so sense.Three challenges, spread over the period of an entire school year? With 2 large delegations of the competing schools staying as guests for the entire duration?Suuuure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I lost interest when Yates was announced. Other than OOTP, I'm not a fan of his entries. That being said, I'm sure I'll see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 OOTP is the weak one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 There's nothing wrong with students staying there and attending classes on their ships/in their carriage (let's hope they were indeed takingclasses). Think of it as an Erasmus project for wizards that's a tiny little bit more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 So the best and brightest students, competing in the tournament are kept away from the school they represent for an entire year?Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Would you rather they visited their schools from time to time? What about moral support for their champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What tournament consistenting of 3 games lasts a whole year and requires the contestants to be present thoughout that year?Its stoopid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Point taken, so why do you reckon she invented that rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Because each book has to last an entire school year? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 And don't forget the totally botched Quidditch World Cup / Dark Mark sequence!I originally wanted to mention that, but then I thought someone would say: "But the Quidditch match doesn't add anything to the plot!", which is true, even if it would have been great to see.I think the problem with the Quidditch Cup is that it feels kinda cheap and lazy the way they just zoomed out of it right as it was starting. I think it would have been better if like they had the game starting as Harry et al arrived and were making their way up the stands, so you're catching little bits of it and they see Krum etc, then maybe have the scene where they bump into the Malfoys, so you end it on an ominous note and that'd carry into the Dark Mark stuff. That way at least that's the real focus of it...in the movie they were just hyping up the game the whole time and got you all excited, and then last minute it went "Just kidding, don't have time for that!"The Tri-wizard setup is weird but I felt like in the book it was more excusable because it was really more a backdrop for the intrigue around Voldemort's return. The book wasn't as interested in the tournament but more what was going on around it. Every time Harry had to do something for the tournament, something would happen or he'd overhear something about Voldemort. You got all those Ministry people around Hogwarts all the time which added some tension....Dumbledore's role was interesting, you start seeing him as this hyper-aware dude in his office with all these newspapers and stuff, poring over the Pensieve, dealing with Karkaroff and Fudge while trying to piece all the weird events together. Kinda felt like he was using the tournament as an excuse to get everybody on the same page about Voldemort and nobody was listening to him. It's a pretty suspenseful book but they had to streamline the plot quite a bit and I think they just chose to focus on the action/comedy potential. It's all pretty entertaining and done with a lot of gusto but you do end up with this expanded Tri-Wizard Tournament extravaganza that doesn't make much sense, a Yule Ball section that's cute but a little long. The Voldemort clues are a pretty small part of it, limited to the Dark Mark and a couple dreams and you get really no sense of anything happening outside Hogwarts. The Crouch/Moody thing is made blatantly obvious and they avoided going into that at all, Crouch Sr's death is never even addressed after it happens, and Dumbledore becomes this flustered, angry old man who never has any idea what's going on. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Michael Gambon was just cast wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No he wasn't, Newell told him to behave like that. Richard Harris never captured Dumbledore's funny side. As for Gambon being flustered, I actually thought it was more realistic. Dumbledore has no finger in the pie anymore and is baffled by what's going on, so he can hardly stay calm and mysterious his entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Why? He was nothing like Harris's Dumbledore, nothing like book Dumbledore, and generally just gave an odd and unenjoyable performance Richard Harris never captured Dumbledore's funny side. ABSOLUTELY he did! You might have not been able to appreciate because a lot of it was visual, like the way he delivers "Alas. Earwax". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Gambon was good as Dumbledore. But not on GOF, where he is directed wrong. So much screaming in that film. And those haircuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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