John 2,032 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: David Arnold's Stargate Theme > David Arnold's Independence Day Theme > Jerry Goldsmith's Star Trek theme > John Williams' Star Wars theme. Rubbish! It's the other way around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 As much as I dislike that "greater than" sequence, at least they're all good themes. It could have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, JohnSolo said: Rubbish! It's the other way around! That is my personal preference order. Stargate means far more to me as a series than Star Wars ever has. Grew up with Stargate and lived with it for 17 years constantly in TV. I love Star Wars and Star Trek, but they aren't even close to my love of Stargate. And Independence Day is just a total and complete badassery of a theme. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Your opinion is rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 My favorite Goldsmith theme was and is Carol Anne's theme. Or at least, three-way tied with both Gremlins scores, and I wouldn't consider the latter necessarily bombastic. So huzzah, I is unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The Stargate TV shows look like they were filmed in my garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, JohnSolo said: Your opinion is rubbish! Well, it's good for me that my opinion isn't determined by other people then isn't it. Just now, Disco Stu said: The Stargate TV shows look like they were filmed in my garage. Yes and original Star Trek and Star Wars look so fantastically well made. Wait a minute, let me just tip the camera to make it look like the ship is under attack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I've never seen the movie or watched any of the shows for more than a few seconds while channel flipping or in commercials. So the only thing I know about them is that they look cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Acting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: I've never seen the movie or watched any of the shows for more than a few seconds while channel flipping or in commercials. So the only thing I know about them is that they look cheap. Congratulations on your uneducated opinion. Stargate has some more realistic space battles than all of Star Trek, and even some of Star Wars. And if you're referring to the way it is shot, then I think you need to understand television and how it is filmed differently and on a much lower budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 So hostile. Low production values is a part of being a sci-fi fan (see Doctor Who as well), and making fun of those low production values is just as much a part of being a sci-fi fan. It's called gentle ribbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Low production values and low budget indeed, but that doesn't mean you can't use it very intelligently. Stargate really did punch above its weight in how adventurous they were with their stories and effects. For example, this is just one of many great space battles that looks far too good for a spinoff tv show (Stargate Atlantis) of a spinoff tv show (Stargate SG-1) of a movie (Stargate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Fascinating. This conversation reminds me of a study I read a while back that suggested subjects with a high imagination were more likely to accept lower quality special effects, and that those with lower imagination were more critical of special effects in general and more likely to spot and be bothered by flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 BSG and Stargate have far superior ground and space battles than Star Trek and Star Wars. This is a lot better than the Takadona battle in Force Awakens. And Stargate didn't have a 200 million dollar budget. It's not all about battles though of course. Great storytelling as well. The above ground battle was from a two part episode called 'Heroes parts 1 and 2,' and it was one of the best pieces of sci-fi and drama ever made. I highly recommend that two parter to anyone who loves sci-fi drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's alright for a TV series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 TV is better than film these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Voyager/First Contact Themes > Trek Fanfare I have no patience for the crummy, plastic, low rent TV scifi dreck that is Stargate and its ilk. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, TheGreyPilgrim said: I have no patience for the crummy, plastic, low rent TV scifi dreck that is Stargate and its ilk. On behalf of Stargate fans; fuck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Whoa now. While I certainly have no problem with people being into it, speaking for myself I could never get through an episode of Stargate in any of its incarnations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 ...I'm joking... A random person not liking something that I love is not exactly earth-shattering. You can insult everything I love and be a total douche, but it wont change my love of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Nor should it. The only "absolute" is that Deep Space Nine (particularly the last four seasons) is not only the best incarnation of Trek, but the finest realisation of science fiction on TV to date. Everything else on TV is a matter of opinion and open to debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I've unfortunately never seen DS9, except for bits here and there. I only have Voyager on VHS, which is my favourite Trek series, because it was my first as a kid, which introduced me to the others. I want to buy TNG and DS9 on VHS because I have fond memories of watching Voyager in bed as a kid so would like to do that again with other Trek series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I don't see how someone could sit through 300+ episodes of Stargate without ever having seen DS9! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 That's something a guy like you could never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Indeed. Just as I don't understand the enduring popularity of the Transformers franchise or Galactica 1980, so is the appeal of Stargate lost on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm always asleep when I miss great conversations like this. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Doctor Who is better than everything sci-fi, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I've never watched Doctor Who, but I know that, out of every other fandom that exists, it's the geekiest. Even more than Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Geeky is trendy. Star Trek has a reputation for being more nerdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnSolo said: I've never watched Doctor Who, but I know that, out of every other fandom that exists, it's the geekiest. Even more than Star Trek. Yet I think a lot more women like DW, which reduces its perceived geekiness significantly. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Personally, I only know a handful of people that are really into DW. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 What's the difference between a geek and a nerd? Aren't they the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Geek = chic. Nerd = us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Whether you rigidly adhere to their listed definitions or not, they're often used interchangeably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 16 hours ago, Quintus said: It really is just weird Titanic and Star Trek regurgitations in GD these days isn't it. It's become too geek obscure for me. What a total shithole! What else are we supposed to do while we wait for Twin Peaks to come back on a cable station we don't even get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: What else are we supposed to do while we wait for Twin Peaks to come back on a cable station we don't even get? You and Twin Peaks? I don't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 It's so strange. It's like you're having the most beautiful dream and the most terrible nightmare all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Is it better than Doctor Who though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I have a strange itch to bingewatch 'Titanic' or 'Always'! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Why not both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 In one day? Dear God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I once watched all seven Nightmare on Elm Street movies in one sitting. Well, not one sitting. I got up to make lunch eventually. Either way, you can handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Ive only seen that meta one. The one Wes Craven directed in the 90's. That might have been the start of meta in cinema and popular culture actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 That's my favorite (along with the fifth one), but the funny thing is the sequels are way better than people want you to believe while the original isn't as great as I wish it was. Wes did better movies before and after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I liked the one where the robot chick beheads someone witha basketball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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