Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 By unpopular demand. 2 hours ago, Thor said: discussions about the film, how the score works in context or general or specific remarks about the album as is. Without the endless diatribes about 'missing music' and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Ha, ha....well, great topic. But we should probably have some actual titles to discuss first, within those parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Let's start with The Patriot! A solid OST, in my opinion. Four out of five stars. I especially like the pastorale opening of the first track. Then the Patriot theme kicks in, and I always think that the flutes are mixed too loudly. I would definitely listen to the theme more if the flutes were less prominent. Lockhart's recordings doesn't improve things either, and there the brass is way too distant in parts of the piece. A catchy theme though, that would be super fun to play on the piano. Too bad the official piano sheet only includes the pastorale opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Interesting point about the flutes. Since the "fife-and-drum" aspect of the score was so important to JW, I guess he wanted the flutes front and center. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 If it's not on the album, it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Thor said: Interesting point about the flutes. Since the "fife-and-drum" aspect of the score was so important to JW, I guess he wanted the flutes front and center. I can understand that, but when they're not doing the melody it just becomes a bit too much with their frantic playing. 1 minute ago, Thekthithm said: If it's not on the album, it doesn't exist. What doesn't exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Return of the Jedi...great album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 I really like the E.T. OST. Perfect length. And Jaws. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Couldn't be done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Upon reflection: Prisoner of Azkaban. I'm thankful we have the LLL set, but the OST is a pleasant listening experience. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 It's nice. New topic: What's the shortest OST that you really like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's nice. New topic: What's the shortest OST that you really like? Impossible to answer. I have so many OSTs that I like that are around 30-40 minutes (a great "symphony"-like length for a work). If there was a way to organize my iTunes collection by album length, I might find a few that are even shorter than that. I know there are several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Thor said: Ha, ha....well, great topic. But we should probably have some actual titles to discuss first, within those parameters. Thor (Patrick Doyle) Thor: The Dark World (Brian Tyler) Thor: Ragnarok (Mark Mothersbaugh) Nick Parker and Bilbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 He, he. Actualy quite like Doyle's THOR (the other two not so much) -- great, retrospective stylings merged with contemporary gimmicks ("Sons of Odin", albeit short, is one of my favourite tracks in the whole MCU thingie). But the OST is far too long at 71 minutes. There's quite a bit of more 'generic' bits that could have been weeded out; probably around 20-25 minutes worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Thor said: Impossible to answer. I have so many OSTs that I like that are around 30-40 minutes (a great "symphony"-like length for a work). If there was a way to organize my iTunes collection by album length, I might find a few that are even shorter than that. I know there are several. Yes, but are there any that's shorter than the typical duration of 30 minutes that used to be the standard in the dark ages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Yes, but are there any that's shorter than the typical duration of 30 minutes that used to be the standard in the dark ages? Yes, quite a few. But it would take me long to find them. Just scrolling through my iTunes randomly from the top at the moment, there are these (all absolutely fine OSTs): A SINGLE MAN (Korzeniowski, 28 minutes), CRITICAL CONDITION (Silvestri, 24 minutes), CAST AWAY (Silvestri, promo, 25 minutes), GOOD MORNING VIETNAM (North, 18 minutes), SUBMARINE (Hewitt, 19 minutes), TANNA (Partos, 26 minutes)....and on and on. And that was only "A". Didn't even move on to "B". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 How's the Cast Away promo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Wait, is that the compilation released with the film, or the score promo? (Cast Away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The score promo. It's excellent; so simple, effective ideas perfectly presented in what is basically a long suite (of course, the score is very sparse to begin with). One of my favourite Silvestris post-2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: New topic: What's the shortest OST that you really like? I have two off the top of my head. Out of Africa (33:27) The Death of Stalin (29:10) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Christopher Young's albums are almost always perfect in terms of length and assembly. J. Williams' albums are also usually great, with odd choices here and there (Jurassic Park's credits appearing twice, putting The Stegosaurus near the end of The Lost World, leaving out Father and Son in Jaws' OST). But even then, with what we have available nowadays, those minor blemishes are easily remedied. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Parameters have changed. Nowadays with all the playlists and edits, i don't care much for other's intentions. I found neither of our favourite composer's approach very successful, apart from a very short time period between 1976 and 1984, when most albums by Goldsmith, Williams, Morricone or Horner were about perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Composers and album producers are more artistic than we are. They know better than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 New topic: has anybody else noticed that OST is almost included in ThOr'S name? Uncanny! What could this mean? 1977 and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 They call him "The Hammer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Thor said: The score promo. It's excellent; so simple, effective ideas perfectly presented in what is basically a long suite (of course, the score is very sparse to begin with). One of my favourite Silvestris post-2000. Is this the promo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Yes, basically. Altough the first track is called "Cast Away", not "Opening Titles" on the promo I have. But same music, same amount of tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 It's probably best that whatever master tapes of music that didn't make it to the album be destroyed. It obviously serves no use outside the film and certainly shouldn't be released to the public anyway, so why keep it? It has no tangible value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 There's no time for this. Eliminate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The rotj ost is all u need in loselwss audio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 8-bit, mono, 11025 Hz lossless audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Lothleth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 12:25 PM, Jurassic Shark said: It's nice. New topic: What's the shortest OST that you really like? Well it's not JW nor is it an OST, but I adore the Utah Symphony's re-recording of Elmer's The Black Cauldron. A perfect album presentation at around 30 minutes, superbly performed and recorded (much better IMO than the film tracks on every level). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Well it's not JW nor is it an OST, but I adore the Utah Symphony's re-recording of Elmer's The Black Cauldron. A perfect album presentation at around 30 minutes, superbly performed and recorded (much better IMO than the film tracks on every level). I'm not familiar with that score, but I do like the Star Wars and Korngold albums performed by the Utahns. Who's conducting The Black Cauldron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Bernstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Leonard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm not familiar with that score, but I do like the Star Wars and Korngold albums performed by the Utahns. Who's conducting The Black Cauldron? Elmer. You should check it out, it's a fantastic score: https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/the-black-cauldron-encore-edition It's aso available to stream or download on iTunes' if you'd rather. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Didn't they butcher the sound in the re-issue? Read a lot of comments about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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