Soundtracks, Compilations, or other recently purchased Music

[DreamTheater 131]

Well, from the time of shipping to actual delivery it takes about a week... and I'm on the other side of the planet. So that for me is... speedy indeed.

Now if I take into account from the day that I order until delivery, that takes 2-3 times as long, but still acceptable, considering how popular their shop has become over the years.

[crocodile 9,724]

Bought Jumanji and Backdraft in pristine condition on a car boot today for virtually nothing. Can't wait to check out both.

Karol

[Jay 46,244]

Car boot?

[crocodile 9,724]

Flea market? A fair? Old stuff? Used CD's?

"Car boot" is a term often used in the UK.

Karol

[Jay 46,244]

Huh. Never heard that one before.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

It's what you'd call a "yard sale".

Come on; someone's got to type it...

[Incanus 5,890]

"Car boot" sounds like someone is selling bootlegs from the trunk of his car.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

Wouldn't that be just dandy?!

[crocodile 9,724]

Huh. Never heard that one before.

Although, flea market would be a better term in this case. It's part of the fair that has being going on every summer since around year 1260 around my parts. You can find a lot of random stuff - from antiques to books and music.

Karo

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Huh. Never heard that one before.

That's because you are American rather then English.

[Jay 46,244]

than.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Indeed

[Jay 46,244]

Yesterday my box of CDs I ordered from Intrada to take advantage of their sale arrived. Biggest order I've ever received from a film score company!

HOCUS POCUS

DEEP RISING

NIGHT CROSSING

PSYCHO II

SEVEN DAYS IN MAY / THE MACKINTOSH MAN

SHOCK TREATMENT / FATE IS THE HUNTER

VON RYAN'S EXPRESS / THE DETECTIVE

48 HRS.

CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER (2CD)

COCOON

FALLING DOWN

HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER, THE

BLOWN AWAY

FANDANGO

CLASH OF THE TITANS (2 CD)

Last Tuesday Planes: Fire and Rescue arrived from Amazon, along with Weird Al's Mandatory Fun

Today Dawn of the Planet of the Apes should arrive

[DreamTheater 131]

I have just ordered two Rozsa's from the Intrada sale : Ivanhoe & Julius Caesar.

Should take a bit longer to arrive than yours, Jay.

[TheTennisBallKid 27]

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You can never have enough Jerry.

[Incanus 5,890]

Tru dat!

I ordered from the Intrada Sale

The Wind and the Lion

Patton

The Great Train Robbery

plus

Silverado (Broughton)

Tombstone (Broughton)

and

Wyatt Earp (LLL release not on sale of course)

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

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You can never have enough Jerry.

Interesting that you have gone for the "Outland"/"Capricorn One" twofer, and not the OSTs. Any particular reason?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Outland is a rerecording.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Outland is a rerecording.

Really? First time I've heard that. And the album is included in the full release of the score, where it's iirc the same recording.

Capricorn, on that same disc, is a rerecording, and massively superior to the full original score in my opinion. Though it's since been re-released on its own (and remastered I believe).

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Ah yes sorry. I meant Capricorn

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Ah ok.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Serves me right for typing and working

[Sir Hilary Bray 235]

ordered from Intrada: Meteor, Star Trek VI and Clear and Present Danger plus Into Darkness Deluxe from Varese.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

Outland is a rerecording.

Really? First time I've heard that. And the album is included in the full release of the score, where it's iirc the same recording.

Capricorn, on that same disc, is a rerecording, and massively superior to the full original score in my opinion. Though it's since been re-released on its own (and remastered I believe).

"Outland" isn't really a re-recording. Tracks like "Hot Water" were just edited for the 1981 release. Any "re-recorded" tracks were recorded at the original 1981 sessions. If there are differences then it is because they are different takes.

Although I love the original "Capricorn One", the re-recording is better-played, and it has better sound.

[Hlao-roo 390]

Do Spotify streams count as purchases?

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

If a friend of mine rips me a CD, it counts as "acquired", so...yes.

[Jay 46,244]

Neither of those count for this thread. But you both knew that.

My Dawn of the Planet of the Apes arrived on Tuesday. Nice booklet!

Also on Tuesday, I ordered X-Files: Fight The Future and The Naked Gun Trilogy from La-La Land.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

"Outland" isn't really a re-recording. Tracks like "Hot Water" were just edited for the 1981 release. Any "re-recorded" tracks were recorded at the original 1981 sessions. If there are differences then it is because they are different takes.

That's what we've been saying, basically.

Although I love the original "Capricorn One", the re-recording is better-played, and it has better sound.

And it flows better.

[TheTennisBallKid 27]

I got the Outland/Capricorn disc because I could get it for less than just the re-release of the Capricorn One re-recording. More = better

I may still get FSM's release of Outland at some point, but until someone re-releases the Capricorn film version I don't really want to pay the prices the Intrada release demands these days. And I'd still want the the album recording anyway, as has been discussed.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Capricorn, on that same disc, is a rerecording, and massively superior to the full original score in my opinion. Though it's since been re-released on its own (and remastered I believe).

The problem with the film tracks of Capricorn is, that even though they are interesting because of the unusual instrument placement and the deliberately close miked, dry recording, the old re-recording is such a powerhouse in terms of sonics and performance that the film tracks just pale in comparison.

It's like Masada, where the original recordings don't have the massive power and scale of the old Varese re-recording done in London.

[crocodile 9,724]

On the other hand, the two are so drastically different that you have to wonder whether the re-recording even represents the score as composed for film. It's supposedly the same material, but feels nothing like it.

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

For Capricorn you mean?

Well Jerry made such drastic rearrangements that one has to wonder if he was actually satisfied with the result of his experiments with the film recordings.

Or maybe for pure listening purposes he wanted to go in a different direction.

Damien: Omen 2 is another one where the rerecording blows the original tracks out of the water.

[crocodile 9,724]

True.

Karol

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Damien: Omen 2 is another one where the rerecording blows the original tracks out of the water.

I rarely even play the film tracks for that. Although I think there are one or two cool cues that are missing in the album recording. Pretty much the same situation as with The Fury, really.

[Incanus 5,890]

There are quite a few re-recordings from the 1970's (probably because of the fee situation) that offer fine re-imaginings of their respective scores in album form. Capricorn One, Patton, Omen II, Jaws, The Fury etc.That said I am also very glad of the trend of releasing these side by side on the same sets like most labels do these days as the re-recording offers truly different take on the music and performance instead of just repetition of more modern OST albums (e.g. in the case of First Knight or most of Rosewood) that are just edited down and re-arranged versions of the same material from the same sessions. My recent acquisitions of The Wind and the Lion and Patton are good examples of this.

[Hlao-roo 390]

Neither of those count for this thread. But you both knew that.

I didn't, although I get it. But I would say that for my purposes offline playlists in Spotify function largely like purchases from iTunes or Amazon Digital.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,390]

Its not the same!

[Wojo 2,458]

At first glance, offline music via Spotify Premium looks more like it's renting the music. I don't know, I've never used Spotify.

[publicist 4,650]

It's a wonderful feature with the only drawback being that you must synchronize every device and that can take a lot of time.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

My recent acquisitions of The Wind and the Lion and Patton are good examples of this.

But Wind and the Lion is the same recording as in the film, isn't it?

I wasn't even aware that Patton was a rerecording. I must have read it in the liner notes, but I couldn't remember. I haven't listened to the score enough.

[Incanus 5,890]

My recent acquisitions of The Wind and the Lion and Patton are good examples of this.

But Wind and the Lion is the same recording as in the film, isn't it?

I wasn't even aware that Patton was a rerecording. I must have read it in the liner notes, but I couldn't remember. I haven't listened to the score enough.

Ah I should have elaborated a bit. The Wind and the Lion has a different mix and different takes on the OST album not entirely different sessions. Intrada Patton set contains the other hand both the original score and a re-recording done in UK if I remember correctly, which had the performance Goldsmith actually preferred to the film score.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Yes, Patton was a UK rerecording specially made for the album, according to the liner notes.

[publicist 4,650]

Sadly it also sounds rather tacky.

[crocodile 9,724]

I know only the 1997 re-recording. Am I missing much?

Karol

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

The actual echoplex effect, for one. Other than that, I can't really say... I'm not as familiar with the score as I should be, and I've only heard the 1997 version once or twice (I only have it on CDR somewhere).

[crocodile 9,724]

It's one of my dear Goldsmith CD's. I'm really attached to it. But never bothered to compare it to the original recordings. Tora! Tora! Tora! suite sounds very different. But it's much more experimental in nature so recapturing the feel was never going to happen.

Karol

[Kühni 485]

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[Sir Hilary Bray 235]

as my Intrada CDs wing their way into the British postal system I go to La-La and place an order for the Thunderbirds Are Go/Thunderbird 6 CD and the Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea CD which I saw by chance.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Once again I've neglected this thread for a while. And if I insist on catching up with listing my purchases since my last post, I'll never post here again because I'm just too lazy to figure out that list.

Instead, I'll just continue with the order I received today. When STID seemed to go quickly, I panicked (needlessly, obviously) and ordered it from Intrada, along with some more stuff from their sale:

• Star Trek Into Darkness (Giacchino)
• The Great Escape (3CD, Bernstein)
• The AVA Collection (Bernstein)
• Meteor (Rosenthal)
• Julius Caesar (Rozsa, Broughton)
• The Twelve Choruses (Rozsa)

[Naïve Old Fart 13,025]

as my Intrada CDs wing their way into the British postal system I go to La-La and place an order for the Thunderbirds Are Go/Thunderbird 6 CD and the Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea CD which I saw by chance.

Oh. Strang!!! There's not enough love in the world for Barry Gray. What else by him do you have?

Ps Paul Sawtell isn't bad, either.