Jay 37,479 Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 First comment I've seen about the score:Oh! Last "Ultron" comment! They finally did the great version of the "weave their themes together" score!— DrewAtHitFix (@DrewAtHitFix) April 10, 2015@rrruiva Both Elfman and Tyler get "music by" credits.— DrewAtHitFix (@DrewAtHitFix) April 10, 2015@salaciousscribe It finally worked for me here. Key moments, the right use of the right theme at the right time...— DrewAtHitFix (@DrewAtHitFix) April 10, 2015@Maustallica It leans on the stronger themes, and it definitely reintroduces them.— DrewAtHitFix (@DrewAtHitFix) April 10, 2015@Bluntmatt @OneRealSweetMan I think it's one of my favorite Marvel scores because it makes some very clever choices.— DrewAtHitFix (@DrewAtHitFix) April 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The problem with comments such as these is that you don't know if the guy (DrewAtHitFix) is a film score fan or just some average moviegoer who thinks any film score with lots of drums is the best thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The problem with comments such as these is that you don't know if the guy (DrewAtHitFix) is a film score fan or just some average moviegoer who thinks any film score with lots of drums is the best thing ever.You're right with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I seem to recall that he had knowledgable comments about Interstellar's score during its Twitter craze, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 It's Drew McWeeney from AICN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The problem with comments such as these is that you don't know if the guy (DrewAtHitFix) is a film score fan or just some average moviegoer who thinks any film score with lots of drums is the best thing ever.If it was just some average moviegoer, I don't think it would talk as much about themes the way this guy does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The problem with comments such as these is that you don't know if the guy (DrewAtHitFix) is a film score fan or just some average moviegoer who thinks any film score with lots of drums is the best thing ever.Literally two clicks from one of those tweets would lead you to 416 pages worth of articles he's written about film in just the last seven years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Ware 526 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 So, according to 'McWeeny', there are no strong themes anywhere in this franchise, but this score weaves them together, and Giacchino should have written it?Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 So, according to 'McWeeny', there are no strong themes anywhere in this franchise, but this score weaves them together.Obviously he means the new themes Tyler has written for this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,747 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Has Mr. McWeeny ever heard the score to The Incredible Hulk? Come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Tyler uses his Iron Man theme in the score - you can hear it in this cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NR9mtOKINw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 An Elfman cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,479 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 OK, seeing these clips finally, I get the impression that Tyler provided a big, bombastic, action heavy score that was probably perfectly fine for all the action scenes, but they wanted Elfman to come in and give the more personal scenes a more delicate touch. Just a theory until we know more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Elfman Avengers Theme?https://youtu.be/upTsFoqXWhg?t=2h19m41s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm curious as to what the best form of presenting this stuff would be.Initially I would say: have all the Tyler in order and then all the Elfman in order. But, what if there are Elfman cues designed to open or close Tyler cues? And if you present it all together, where do the Tyler cues that were substituted by Elfman cues go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Two discs is the way to go!One for the Tyler material and one for the Elfman material. End of story!Or two separate albums, even, although obviously I don't see any of both cases happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think two discs is possible. The release date for the OST has been pushed back twice, right? And 2-disc OSTs are trendy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 But the cues will be probably be shuffled instead of separated.Although given that the credits aren't "&", they might be forced to indicate what is what. Which we probably could tell, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think two discs is possible. The release date for the OST has been pushed back twice, right? And 2-disc OSTs are trendy these days.Out of curiosity, which composers outside of Giacchino and Shore have had two-disc albums released, lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hmm, was about to mention him. Aside from those?I don't think Tyler and Elfman are considered as popular as Zimmer, Shore and Giacchino, these days, but I could be wrong, of course. The popularity of the film also plays an important role, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Frozen got a 2disc OST also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't think AGE OF ULTRON is as popular a film as FROZEN was, though. I wonder how well these 2-disc albums are selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Frozen got a 2disc OST alsoBefore or after it became a sensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Released the same day as the 1 disc version. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGWTOBI http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDY5KTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Reinforces my question on how well this type of album is selling, in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Frozen probably sold very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 The Fozen OST has sold 4 million copies in the US, but it doesn't get broken down between which version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(soundtrack) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'd say 1 deluxe edition is sold for every 5 or 6 standard editions, but that's just a wild guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Fair enough. A two-disc release showcasing both Tyler's and Elfman's scores would be the most respectful release, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't think there's much of a chance that we get a two-disc release divided by composer. The general audience wouldn't care about the delineation. If we somehow got a 2-disc release, my gut says it would be near-chronological. We'd be lucky to see which composer wrote which track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Oh, yeah, definitely. The "one CD for each composer" thing would be the "perfect" situation, but I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Just checked various Amazons and no new information listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,747 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't think there's much of a chance that we get a two-disc release divided by composer. The general audience wouldn't care about the delineation. If we somehow got a 2-disc release, my gut says it would be near-chronological. We'd be lucky to see which composer wrote which track.I agree. I think that if we got a 2-disc, it would be more like GOTG with 1 disc of score and 1 disc of songs. Just for the sake of optimism though, let's not forget that the MCU's own Incredible Hulk actually did get a 2-disc score release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I would be delighted if Elfman scored Spider-Man films now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Saving Mr. Banks got a 2-disc release. Didn't Iron Man 2 get one also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Saving Mr. Banks got a 2-disc release.Didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Alice didn't tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Saving Mr. Banks got a 2-disc release.Didn't know that.To be fair the second disc is just Mary Poppins song demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Ah. Cheap deluxe edition, then!Alice didn't tell you?No. We don't speak to each other these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Didn't Iron Man 2 get one also?I don't believe so. The score album I have is a single-disc from Debney, and I think there was a second songs-only (AC-DC?) release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Didn't Iron Man 2 get one also?I don't believe so. The score album I have is a single-disc from Debney, and I think there was a second songs-only (AC-DC?) release.Yeah, there was definitely an AC/DC only album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 They were never packaged together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yeah, there was definitely an AC/DC only album. Who need anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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