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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

Q&A With Ridley Scott And Damon Lindelof. Good stuff!

http://www.comicbook...s/news/?a=56563


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

Here's the even longer (and very different) international trailer:



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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:12 AM

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one. Even though most of the footage is the same, the US trailer tries to sell it as a blockbuster (with blockbuster trailer music). I like the international one better.

But, for some reason, every new piece of footage makes more and more skeptical. Same with the latest Batman film.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:52 AM

Q&A With Ridley Scott And Damon Lindelof. Good stuff!

http://www.comicbook...s/news/?a=56563


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:20 PM

I'm dancing to a different tune now:


Fass ... Fass ... Bender

Fass ... Fass ... Bender

Fass ... Fass ... Bender

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.


I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. :| I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:02 PM


I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.


I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. :| I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.


I don't know how you can see anything like Avatar in the international trailer.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:17 PM



I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.


I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. :| I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.


I don't know how you can see anything like Avatar in the international trailer.


My initial impression. Trailer looks to me as if it was another movie set in the universe of Cameron's "Avatar" than of Scott's "Alien"/"Blade Runner".

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:23 PM

I didn't think that Blade Runner and Alien were part of the same universe.

And once you take the blue people and Pandorian aliens out of Avatar, all you're left with is generic uninspired science fiction that steals mechs from Aliens (and MechWarrior), dropships from Aliens, and various other established franchises.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:29 PM

And once you take the blue people and Pandorian aliens out of Avatar, all you're left with is generic uninspired science fiction that steals mechs from Aliens (and MechWarrior), dropships from Aliens, and various other established franchises.


You don't need to take the aliens out. The alien creatures are either inspired on real animals or based off John Carter. They didn't even bother creating new sounds for some of them. And personally, I hated the blue people. The design was just so obvious, with the big eyes, the cat noses... ugh.

The mechs are different from that in Aliens, though. All that's similar is the bars over Ripley's head sorta resemble the form of the cabins of the Avatar mechs. And the Venture Star is the coolest spaceship I've seen in a film.


Prometheus looks different to Alien because the Prometheus is just not the Nostromo.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:58 PM

And you think that a human civilization advanced enough to send human beings to LV-426 -- I know, not named in Alien until Aliens, but still -- would make every ship look the same? Our current civilization is only advanced enough to send people to the moon and orbit of this planet, and the space shuttle orbiter still doesn't look anything like a Saturn capsule. A pick-up truck doesn't look like a VW beetle.

The Nostromo was an ore freighter. The Prometheus is clearly not.

The key indicator is that the distinctive curvature of the space jockey's ship is clearly seen in some Prometheus trailers. And there is no space jockey on Pandora.

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But I guess that's the point we've reached in film these days. Every new science fiction epic will be benchmarked against Avatar. That's sad.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:06 AM

This and The Hobbit are the two movies I currently am dying to see the most.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:12 AM

I think that might be the best trailer for Prometheus so far. I'm definitely very excited for this film.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:20 AM

Wow...that was stunning.

I will be disappointed if Fassbender is not the Ash-like android in the film.

Like the top YouTube commenter said...shut up and take my money.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:09 PM

I will be disappointed if Fassbender is not the Ash-like android in the film.


He is. David 8.0 I think.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:08 AM

I'm more excited about this film than any other in quite some time. I can't wait to see this, and yet I'm practicing controlled restraint when it comes to seeing trailers or promotional material. When Scott is really on, he's one of the great directors we have.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:39 AM

When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors? Personally, I think it's been quite a while ago. Most of the time he's not much better than his brother. I don't expect Prometheus to be truly great but I'm hoping there will be some great moments in it and by that I don't mean spectacular 3D effects.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors?
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Probably, with "Thelma And Louise", his last great, and truly muitl-layered, film.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors? Personally, I think it's been quite a while ago.


How long exactly?

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:07 PM


When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors? Personally, I think it's been quite a while ago.


How long exactly?


30 years.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:10 PM

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

Well he's been tackling on mostly boring subject matters or taking them wrong (Gladiator, for example).

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

I'll take the fake history of Gladiator over the fake history of The Patriot any day.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:37 PM

When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors? Personally, I think it's been quite a while ago. Most of the time he's not much better than his brother.


Tony Scott has made one great movie, Crimson Tide, and a couple of good ones, Deju Vu (underrated) and Enemy of the State. Other than that, I have no interest in his work.

Obviously you didn't find Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut), Blackhawn Down or Matchstick Men good, based on your response, but I disagree. His last two movies, though, were not all that special.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:34 AM

I think Kingdom Of Heaven is good but far from a masterpiece.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:11 AM

I think Kingdom Of Heaven is good but far from a masterpiece.

I agree. I actually wish Orlando Bloom's character had died at the beginning and Liam Neeson's would have gone off to fight another round in the crusades. Also there is something intangible missing from a lot of Ridley's recent films, a certain humane touch. He is always so interested in the large canvas of history and place that he often, I feel, forgets the human side of things. In Kingdom of Heaven in the spectacle of the crusades I tend to forget Balian altogether whatever tribulations he is going through with allies and enemies, Sibylla or Tiberias or Guy. They all ring a little hollow and as consequence I do not care for them at all. Oddly enough Edward Norton in his mask projected the most poignant performance as the young king trying to hold his crumbling empire intact.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:59 AM

I actually wish Orlando Bloom's character had died at the beginning and Liam Neeson's would have gone off to fight another round in the crusades.


That's actually what happens in the alternate cut. The problem is Scott doesn't want to release it. Shame.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:59 AM

Yes. Incredible how a man with a mask was more affecting and poignant than the rest of the cast.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:01 AM

Ed Norton? Touching?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:06 AM

Gary Oldman did the same for Hannibal.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:09 AM

Come to think of it, the best 2 performances from Watchmen are from actors who's face is covered.
Same for Burtons planet Of The Apes...

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:11 AM

Didn't I always say Snyder is the new Scott?
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:11 AM

That means he's already made his best 3 films, and the rest will always be a bit underwelming...

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:20 AM

Exactly. Suckerpunch is Snyder's Legend. Have you seen Suckerpunch already, Steef?
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:23 AM

Not yet, there's something about it that turns me of.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

It looks fucking shit?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

KM liked it ... so you might wanna give it a chance.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

I'll watch it when Film 4 eventually show it. Shame there's no button on the remote to tone the green down, though.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

You are not a fan of colour grading?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

I just hope Man Of Steel won't be as ordinary as Someone To Watch Over Me (Scott's movie after Legend). But listening to Snyder ("Supes will be my most realistic movie to date"), it sounds like it will be.


Luckily I still have P.T. Anderson and Andrew Dominik.



Alex - who remembers watching Someone To Watch Over Me felt like watching TV movie of the week.
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