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Hi Guys, Sorry been busy this past week. Im trying to find the post on facebook. Its either been deleted or I possibly read it on some other Musicians page. But It was definitely where I read it. Let me find it and get back to you...
 
UPDATE: here it is: 
 
Michael Trig There is a full score 2 CD set For The Force Awakens coming in the first quarter of 2016. That I know for a fact. And no, I can't tell you how I know, else the person giving me that info won't tell me anymore. Now based on ONLY my opinion, I don't think there were any Expanded versions of Attack Of The Clones or Revenge Of The Sith because of the fan outcry over not liking the movies. No matter how much we soundtrack/score enthusiasts love our full score collections, some companies won't put that kind of money behind expanded releases for films that are so widely hated by the very fans that would make up their sales demographic.
 
Found the post: But it was posted elsewhere on Intrada Soundtrack Club facebook page. Here is the scoop: As I said it earlier its not confirmed. Since there were many postings on the cd that period of time,I thought it was Conrad Popes .But its not. Still we can ássume' if this is legitimate or not depending whose source this insider guys is? 

Hal Leonard Corporation has posted the movements in the Force Awakens Suite:
 
March of the Resistance
Rey's Theme
Scherzo for X-Wings
The Jedi Steps and Finale
 
It appears there are two performance options for The Jedi Steps, I'm speculating akin to the two different performance options for With Malice Toward None from Lincoln.
 
http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491705&lid=149&keywords=John%20williams%20signature&subsiteid=1&

F.A.Q.:
 
FYC? What's that stand for?

For Your Consideration.  Basically, Disney setup a website where eligible voters for the various awards that are given out around the end of the year could learn where they could attend a screening of their films; See which awards the films were pushing for, and listen to selections of the score for Best Score nominations.  For some films, the music on FYC websites is the same as their OST programs; for others it was different!
 
So the music here is different than the album?

Yes!  Some tracks are almost the same, but the structure of the FYC program is fundamentally different; It is a selection of music from the movie exactly as it appears in the final cut of the film, even if the music used in the film was edited from Williams' original intentions.  This could mean that a track might contain an Insert Williams later wrote, where the OST presented his original version; or a track might contain less music than its OST counterpart of the scene was re-edited after the recording of the music, or even a track might contain some music artificially looped or stretched if a scene got lengethened after scoring.  The FYC always reflects these non-intended conforms to final picture from start to finish.
 
Also, the FYC presentation seems to favor cues featuring original music over ones featuring a lot of returning themes, at least until the end.
 
So does the FYC contain the complete score?

No; The film has about 101 minutes of music in it.  The FYC is only 68 minutes long.
 
Which tracks contain music that wasn't on the OST?

Well that's a complicated question.  Sometimes an ENTIRE track is made up of music not on the OST (Finn's Trek, The Resistance, The Bombing Run).  Sometimes an FYC track contains the full, original cues that Williams chose to microedit on the OST (the Attack on the Jakku Village tracks, the End Credits).  Sometimes the FYC tracks contain a cue that wasn't on the OST at all, joined up with a cue that was (On The Inside, The Ways of the Force).  And sometimes comparing the FYC to OST version of a track is confusing and takes some time to unravel every last difference (I Can Fly Anything, Follow Me and The Falcon).
 
Where can I find this FYC?
 
http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/star-wars/music
 
I don't see a download link there; How do I download the files from Disney's site?
 
 
UPDATE: Disney has removed the files from their server as of September 2016.
 
Got a track list handy so I can re-name and properly tag my files?
 
01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
TOTAL TIME - 1:08:07
 
That's a really low bitrate; Is there any chance its available uncompressed somewhere?
 
Disney should be mailing out pressed physical CDs with the FYC program to Academy music department voters sometime soon.  Usually not long after that, they begin turning up on ebay, and not long after that, lossless rips appear online.  NOTE: It is against the board's rules to ask for a lossless rip in the public forum.  Use the PM System or go to other websites for that discussion!  Posts asking for illegal downloads will be deleted!
 
OK, so apart from the different EDITS and LOW COMPRESSION of the FYC on the website, is the MIX of the music any different?
 
Yes!  The FYC seems to be the mix as made on the recording stage to be put into the film, and sounds GREAT!  The OST has had some reverb and other tinkering done to it (nothing out of the ordinary), as well as having less dynamic range and overall being louder.  Essentially, it is up to your own personal preference which mix you like better!
 
So when I begin editing my own custom expanded edit, should I favor the OST or FYC?
 
That's up to your personal preference.  The FYC features the film mix, but isn't available in lossless.  The OST is uncompressed, but has been mastered for home listening.  The OST has edits Williams made for listening experience, while the FYC has edits made to conform to a changing cut of the film.  In short: Everyone will follow a different paradigm and everyone's fan edit will be different.  Do whatever makes you happiest!
 
Anything else?
 
Enjoy the music!
 
 
 
 
 
 
Initial, simple breakdown (Does not cover every minor bit of different music, just the significant portions):
 
FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
[all] (5:27) = OST 01 [1:26-5:03] (3:37) Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
 
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
[all] (1:53) =  OST 01 [5:03-end] (1:22) Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
 
FYC 03 The Scavenger (1:52)
[all] (1:52) = OST 02 [0:36-2:21] The Scavenger
 
FYC 04 Lunchtime (1:12)
[all] (1:12) = OST02 [2:21-end] The Scavenger
 
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
[0:00-1:00] (1:00) = Unreleased
[1:00-end] (3:09) = OST 05 [0:30-end] (2:24) I Can Fly Anything
 
FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = Unreleased
 
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
[0:00-3:09] (3:09) = OST 05 Follow Me (2:54)
[3:09-end] (4:00)  = OST 07 The Falcon (3:32)
 
FYC 08 The Rathtars (1:19)
[all] (1:19) = OST 09 [1:22-2:13] The Rathtars! 
 
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
[0:00-1:02] = OST 17 Snoke [0:00-1:02]
[1:02-end] (1:05) = Unreleased
 
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
[0:00-0:45] (0:45) = Unreleased
[0:45-end] (0:47) = OST 10 [1:17-end] (0:51) Finn's Confession
 
FYC 11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
[all] (1:06) = OST 10 [0:00-0:52] (0:52) Finn's Confession
 
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52)
[all] (1:52) = OST 12 The Starkiller (1:51)
 
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
[all] (2:15) = OST 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01)
 
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = Unreleased
 
FYC 15 The Abduction (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = OST 14 [0:56-end] (1:29) The Abduction
 
FYC 16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
[all] (2:01) = OST 15 [1:13-2:52] (1:39) Han and Leia
 
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
[all] (2:07) = Unreleased
 
FYC 18 On the Inside (2:54)
[0:00-0:48] (0:48) = Unreleased
[0:48-end] (2:06) = OST 18 [0:03-end] (2:02) On The Inside
 
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24)
[all] (4:24) = OST 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
 
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
[0:00-1:20] (1:20) = Unreleased
[1:20-end] (2:38) = OST 20 [0:45-end] (2:20) The Ways Of The Force
 
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
[all] (2:18) = OST 22 [0:00-2:05] (2:05) Farewell and The Trip
 
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
[0:00-1:10] = OST 04 [0:00-1:10] (1:10) Rey Meets BB-8
[1:10-end] (2:39) = OST 22 [2:13-end] (2:42) Farewell and The Trip
 
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
[0:00-6:53] (6:54) = OST 23 [0:00-6:59] (6:59) The Jedi Steps and Finale
[6:53-8:05] (1:12) = OST 16 [tbd-tbd] (tbd) March of the Resistance
[8:05-end] (1:53) = OST 23 [6:59-end] (1:53) The Jedi Steps and Finale
 
So roughly 15 1/2 minutes of unreleased music!  Add that to the OST and roughly 92 1/2 minutes of the score has been released so far!
 
 
 
 
 
Simple FYC/OST Combo Playlist, no Editing Required
 
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11) OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35) OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)
  FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27) FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53) OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39) OST 04 Rey Meets BB-8 (1:31) FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09) FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35) FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09) OST 08 That Girl with the Staff (1:58) OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05) FYC 09 Snoke (2:07) FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32) FYC 11 I'm No Hero (1:06) OST 11 Maz's Counsel (3:07) FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52) FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35) OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41) OST 17 Snoke (2:03) FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07) FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54) FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24) OST 20 The Ways of the Force (3:15) OST 22 Farewell And The Trip (4:55) FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58) TOTAL TIME - 1:30:00
 
Some notes:
I like the concert arrangements first but you could certainly put them after instead Obviously the main title isn't here, but I don't mind.  I've been listening to that piece for 20 years and don't need to hear it everytime I listen to this score.  Obviously if you can't live without it, you can use OST track 1 instead of FYC tracks 1 and 2. For "The Way of the Force", I went with the OST version to get the great music for Rey getting the saber.  The FYC version replaces that bit with the music for the X-Wings attack, which is great but since we have similar music in the Sherzo track it was easy to keep the OST version. For "The Starkiller", and "Torn Apart" you could swap in the OST version if you prefer.  Torn Apart has a softer ending on album than the FYC version OST Track 10 Finn's Confession can replace FYC tracks 10 and 11 if you prefer that album arrangement with the Arrival at Takadona music.  
 
 
Longer Chronological Edit of OST + FYC, In-Track Editing Required:
 
THE SCORE
OST 01A [0:00-1:26] (1:26) Main Title /
FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39)
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
OST 08B [0:35-1:11] (0:36) "Stolen Jacket"
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
OST 08A [0:00-0:35] "Finn, I'm Rey"
OST 08C [1:11-end] "The Droid Stole A Freigher?"
OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05)
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
OST 10B [0:52-1:17] (0:25) "Arrival At Takodana" 
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
OST 04B [1:10-end] (0:21) "Informants"
OST 11A [0:00-1:21] (1:21) "Maz Examines Finn"
FYC 11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
OST 11B [1:21-end] (1:46) "Maz and Rey"
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52)
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) or OST 13 if you prefer its version of Kylo's Theme in the middle
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) note that FYC 15 has an alternate ending if you prefer it
OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41)
OST 17B [1:02-end] (1:01) "Bring Her To Me"
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)   
FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54)    
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24)
OST 20A [0:00-0:45] (0:45) "Rey Gets The Lightsaber" /
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
 
ALBUM ARRANGEMENTS
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11)
OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35)
OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)
 
 
Custom Cover Art:
These are not made by me; I found them online.  Click to embiggen!
 
 
 
 
 
FYC / OST Comparison spreadsheet
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDuRXT-67ETwF2cy4lNkgp5AV_QcIDivxUwCLtLOGfg/pubhtml
 
Simple Comparison available now; Detailed Comparison is a Work In Progress.
 
 
ALL UPDATES / CORRECTIONS WELCOME!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Original Main Post ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
 
 
HOLY CRAP!!!!
 
FYC SITE IS LIVE WITH MUSIC NOT ON THE OST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/star-wars/music

I just added a FAQ to the main post and copied all the most important information to it including my quick no-edits playlist, my chronological OST/FYC order, custom cover art, and link to my spreadsheet.
 
Enjoy!

My booklet has the complete cue list, a thematic analysis, excerpts of sheet music and info about the recording sessions.

This is the simple playlist I've been doing to listen to the score.  It's the best way to get the most amount of music without having to do any in-track editing and without repeating anything.
 
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11) OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35) OST 17 Snoke (2:03) OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)
  FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27) FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53) OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39) FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09) FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35) FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09) OST 08 That Girl with the Staff (1:58) OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05) FYC 09 Snoke (2:07) FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32) OST 10 Finn's Confession (2:08) OST 11 Maz's Counsel (3:07) FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52) FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35) OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41) FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07) FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54) FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24) OST 20 The Ways of the Force (3:15) FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18) FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49) FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58) TOTAL TIME - 1:30:43
 
Some notes:
I like the concert arrangements first but you could certainly put them after instead Obviously the main title isn't here, but I don't mind.  I've been listening to that piece for 20 years and don't need to hear it everytime I listen to this score.  Obviously if you can't live without it, you can use OST track 1 instead of FYC tracks 1 and 2. For "The Way of the Force", I went with the OST version to get the great music for Rey getting the saber.  The FYC version replaces that bit with the music for the X-Wings attack, which is great but since we have similar music in the Sherzo track it was easy to keep the OST version. For "The Starkiller", "Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle", and "Torn Apart" you could swap in the OST version if you prefer.  Each of these 3 tracks covers the same footage between FYC and OST but has some differences throughouts. For all the other tracks, I chose the one with more music.  
NOTE: This post may now be out of date!  Please see the first post in this thread for the most up-to-date information (Especially the Spreadsheet, which is updated more frequently than the board post)

The spreadsheet came first, that's how I figured everything out.... I suppose I could make a public version.

I read on some insiders post on Conrad Popes facebook comments that a 2CD Expanded set is confirmed and exepected  in 1st qtr 2016. The source claimed as an insider news. Ofcourse, I cant confirm its authenticity, BUT Given the enourmous success of the movie and rumblings of yet another Oscar nomination, I suspect this may be true.Lets wait and see. This isnt stingy business values like Lucasfilm anymore..lol 

Here's what's on the site!
 
01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
TOTAL TIME - 1:08:07
 
And they are 160kbps mp3 files
 
http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track1.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track2.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track3.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track4.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track5.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track6.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track7.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track8.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track9.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track10.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track11.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track12.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track13.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track14.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track15.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track16.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track17.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track18.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track19.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track20.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track21.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track22.mp3 http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track23.mp3

Yes, I think we got an effective and enjoyable album presentation.
Thanks, Jason, for this superb work. It's interesting to have the estimates of music yet to be released. I'll pay more attention to the film when I see it for the second time on tuesday, hoping to contribute on this thread, but the list is already highly detailed.

Full disclosure: arranger here at the Army Field Band. We got the OK just one week before this performance, with Score and parts over email., with stipulation it would only be performed on day of the film debut (17 DEC). With that said, all of our gear was being packed into to trucks that same day we got the OK, so we got a quick 10min of rehearsal (as we had a total of 4 programs to still go through) before they would see it again at tech rehearsal on Tues 15 DEC. So the performance is actually the 3rd time in front of the music.
Yeah, the audio is not the greatest. Lot of red tape with how recordings are handled, not to mention, this isn't an actual concert hall by any means. Glad you guys enjoyed it!

I'm sure he will. In 17 months from now, we will be enjoying Williams' score for Episode VIII.

Oh, I think Kathleen Kennedy has more say in who scores Episode 8 than Rian Johnson does.

I'm enjoying it a lot and it's growing with every listen. As always in JW, the beauty is often in the details and there are lot of those here. Sonically, it seems to me that he's continuing the discourse where he left it in 2005. I hear shades of Revenge of the Sith in more than one place. As it happened with the prequels, the music is not much about revisiting old ideas or style (save for quotes of classic themes when they're needed), but more a new tile added to this massive and amazing musical mosaic. Williams is doing what every true artist does and he always keeps an enormous integrity. I dare to say it's almost an ethical approach, before aesthetical. He's being true to himself and to his muse, no matter the commercial circumstances he has to comply. Right now I can't put it on a list, even just within the Star Wars canon, as I need to listen and study it more. But I'm loving it a lot.

"Academics" who have actual skill aren't poisoned by these moronic notions, in my experience. It's the posers who are.

OK, it's on youtube now!
 
 
 

Oh, no. I feared this could happen.
Who wants a picture booklet in a day when you can easily access to thousands of pictures through the internet? I don't mind for some pretty ones, but a full booklet of them in such an anticipated score is really a waste.
I still cannot wait to have it in my hands! Although I really don't know when that will be.

Karol

I think they should have a sound Classical education, those uncouth Philistines!

I just saw the film and here is my lengthy, deep analysis:
The music was fucking AMAZING!!!

Great Leader Snoke will make it legal!

Any man who can sneak a full blown fugue like the March of the Resistance into a film these days deserves a tip of a hat from me. Well done John!

Moderators gotta moderate
I'll enjoy the film just fine