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  1. Hall (the 90-something-year old Indy) had some funny prologues and epilogues in the series - the reworking for the second home video releases into 2-episode 'movies' was definitely to the detriment of the series. Ford's guest appearance in Mystery of the Blues as a younger old Indiana Jones was pretty great - the music was a lovely homage to Williams there as well. Oh, and they do indeed make that very obvious reference to the Young Indy pilot in KOTCS. Nice moment.
  2. Did they play the connecting extra music in the prologue he composed a couple of years ago?
  3. The former comes after 10,001 BC and before 9,999 BC, the latter after The Twelfth Floor and before The Fourteenth Floor. *In before Stefancos!*
  4. It's going to be the publication of recording session photos on Scoringsessions!
  5. I think in this series most of them are the originals.
  6. Duel of the Fates in Revenge of the Sith is tracked from The Phantom Menace.
  7. I was going to add the last couple of guides to the main post, but can't seem to edit it anymore?
  8. BATMAN Any corrections or comments are welcome of course. Sources: first La-La Land Records Release, the Elfman/Burton box & the Danny Elfman Batman Collection The DE Batman Collection is arguably the best sounding source, but the E/B is probably not far off, though it sounds much more reverb-y. Between the first LLL release and the E/B box, I usually chose the latter. (Since the producers have said so, I’ve assumed that the DE Batman Collection contains all the film mixes and film versions, so I haven’t gone back to the film to check.) TITLES DEBC CD2 01 + EB 1 (There’s a crackling sound in the film mix on the EB around 0:41 which is probably due to clipping during editing of the film mix. The original album doesn’t have this, so if this disturbs you, you can use the original album version on the LLL – entirely, or until 0:45.) (Note: the Film Version of the Batman Titles seems to be just a film mix (only very slightly different) of the album version (it’s the same recording, I think) – except perhaps for that clipped section in the beginning, which also seems to be shortened by less than half a second at the very beginning of that section (notice the first of the pairs of beats coming in half a second earlier than the album version). I think it's probably just the same recording, but it’s been clipped either due to amplifying that part (because of the different mix) or to micro-editing it? It's also possible they mixed in part from another take of course. It's certainly not from either LLL Alternate 1 or 2.)) FAMILY / FIRST BAT / ROOF FIGHT (Film Mix) DEBC CD1 02 JACK VS ECKHARDT (Film Mix) DEBC CD1 03 UP BUILDING / CARD SNAP DEBC CD1 04 BATZONE / AXIS SETUP DEBC CD1 05 SHOOTOUT (Film Mix) DEBC CD1 06 KITCHEN TRANSITION (Film Version) / KITCHEN DINNER / SURGERY DEBC CD1 07 STAIR KISS / FACE-OFF / BEDDY BYE DEBC CD1 08 (the opening of Stair Kiss seems to be very slightly differently edited as compared to the previous LLL) ROASTED DUDE DEBC CD1 09 VICKI SPIES DEBC CD1 10 CLOWN ATTACK DEBC CD1 11 BRUCE CONTEMPLATES / PHOTOS DEBC CD1 12 MEN AT WORK DEBC CD1 13 PAPER SPIN / ALICIA’S MASK DEBC CD1 14 VICKI GETS A GIFT DEBC CD1 15 ALICIA’S UNMASKING DEBC CD1 16 RESCUE / BATMOBILE CHASE / STREET FIGHT DEBC CD1 17 DESCENT INTO MYSTERY (Film Mix) DEBC CD1 18 BATCAVE / PAPER THROW DEBC CD1 19 THE TRUTH LLL CD2 24 (This is mistakenly titled Joker’s Muzak on the LLL releases.) (To my ears the version on the previous LLL release sounds a lot better than the one on the DEBC. Don’t know why or maybe I’m mistaken.) JOKER’S POEM EB 13 (or DEBC CD1 20) SAD PICTURES DEBC CD1 21 CHALLENGE / DREAM / TENDER BATCAVE DEBC CD1 22 (Note the track title – it’s reversed on the LLL releases) BATSUIT / CHARGE OF THE BATMOBILE DEBC CD1 23 JOKER FLIES TO GOTHAM / BATWING I DEBC CD1 24 BATWING II DEBC CD1 25 CATHEDRAL CHASE DEBC CD1 26 WALTZ DEBC CD1 27 SHOWDOWN I / SHOWDOWN II DEBC CD1 28 FINALE DEBC CD1 29 END CREDITS DEBC CD1 30 Bonus Tracks TITLES (Alternate Mix) DEBC CD1 01 (= LLL CD2 29 0:00-2:47) (This is probably the original take, which was used to create the album version from 0:00-1:20 and approx. 2:20-end (but with a different mix – note the more prominent piano in the latter part). The middle part is not used and contains an error at 1:31. Note: In the very last beat of the album version there seems to be a kind of ‘hiccup’ that isn’t there in this “Alternate #2” (perhaps some form of clipping during mastering or so?)) According to the producer, this is the “70mm” mix. ROOF FIGHT (Album Mix) EB 02 (or DEBC CD2 02) (contains additional piano overlay. Seems to be the same take, at least largely.) JACK VS ECKHARDT (with Overlay) LLL CD1 03 SHOOTOUT (Alternate Mix) LLL CD1 06 KITCHEN TRANSITION (Alternate) / KITCHEN DINNER / SURGERY LLL CD1 07 (“Dinner Transition” is different here.) BRUCE CONTEMPLATES / PHOTOS (Alternate) DEBC CD2 26 TV NEWS THEME DEBC CD2 22 (Longer than on the previous LLL release, has a proper ending now.) JOKER’S COMMERCIAL (Stereo Mix) DEBC CD2 23 RESCUE (with Original Ending) DEBC CD2 27 DESCENT INTO MYSTERY (Album Mix) DEBC CD2 10 In case you want to add the album mix, which features the choir in a very slightly more prominent way. (BATSUIT / CHARGE OF THE BATMOBILE (Album Mix)) EB 15 (Not really essential at all, but the percussion and trumpets are slightly different mixed in the first part of Charge of the Batmobile) (SHOWDOWN I (Alternate Mix) / SHOWDOWN II) LLL 28 first part + EB 19 (Again not really essential whatsoever, but the opening of Showdown I is somewhat differently mixed.) TITLES (Alternate Take) DEBC CD2 25 (This “Alternate #1” on the LLL seems to be the only true (entire) alternate take available of the Batman theme.) Additional Bonus Tracks THE BATMAN THEME (Piano Demo) Batman: The Animated Series Volume 2 CD 1 (easter egg on last track) AXIS (Worktape) EB 32 (Demo for Shootout?) PHOTOS (Wild Vocal) / BEDDY BYE (Celeste Only) DEBC CD2 29 2:49-end JOKER’S COMMERCIAL (Worktape) / JOKER’S COMMERCIAL (Film Edit) EB 28 + 29 (It’s impossible to have a clean ending for the worktape. Since EB 29 is just a superfluous film edit, what I did for my own edit was replace the film edit with the mono mix from the first LLL release – see the next track) JOKER’S COMMERCIAL (Mono Mix) LLL CD2 23 WACKY (Worktape) EB 33 (Perhaps an idea for Descent into Mystery?) HERRMANN-ESQUE THING (Worktape) EB 31 (this is similar to material in Bat Cave) WILD THEME (Worktape) EB 36 (An idea for Batwing II, or if not, for Batmobile Chase?) BATWING IDEA (Worktape) EB 37 WALTZ (Worktape) EB 35 (Probably worktape for Waltz) WALTZ – MUSIC BOX (Worktape) EB 34 (Cf the end of Showdown) TITLES (Worktape) EB 30 (almost sounds like a cross between the Titles and the End Credits)
  9. Thanks! And the album's ending of An Unending Story was the original intended version, right?
  10. I'm still a bit confused as to the different An Unending Story / End Titles tracks. From the booklet I understand that the beginning is actually tracked from the main titles, while it uses a different take of The First Victim. I suspect the Quartet has the film version, but could anyone explain to me what's on the Prometheus and what's on the album? Different inserts for a different cut of the film? Also, are there any alternate takes for other tracks on the album and on the Prometheus vs the Quartet?
  11. Just wanted to confirm that the so-called 70mm mix (the new 'main title' on disc 1) is exactly the same as alternate 2 on disc 2. (Maybe it has a slightly better mix or so, but it's definitely the exact same performance and track.) And to reiterate, this "alternate 2" has been partially used (but mixed differently) to create the film version/album version (which are almost identical to each other) - see my notes above.
  12. fommes

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    No, Thomas Newman should!
  13. So that's why Gillian Anderson doesn't seem to age, it all makes sense now.
  14. Surely there have been much better scores than Bridge of Spies this year. Odd choice.
  15. Really? Can't say I agree. I thought you'd play the Munich underscore card
  16. Newman's fairly pedestrian score drags the film down a bit, I feel. No way that would have happened with a Williams score, however small or short.
  17. I think most people would be surprised how many of the good ideas in the series are actually adapted from the stories and novels. Obviously the self-indulgency is entirely Moffat & Gatiss.
  18. I thought this was a really good film which could have been a great film with a better composer. So typical of me to post this on the JWFan board.
  19. The whole episode is Sherlock's viewpoint though, it's for instance possible that he knows there's something else going on with Mary and he thinks she works with or for Mycroft, but the actual ending in the plane belies that, since it's still Watson who has to look after Sherlock. Probably she's the next big arch-enemy or so, which would fit in the sense that now it would be Watson's person to exorcise.
  20. The difference is the first and second seasons (which I like very, very much because of that) were much more balanced. What about the music for the special though - I thought it was quite inspired!
  21. I thought the second half was incredibly disappointing. This would have been the ideal opportunity to play 'a case' straight, but the story got entirely buried under the weight of its heavy-handed postmodern metafictionality. They could have kept a couple of the early - already very obvious but compared to the second half actually subtle - references to the present day (such as the use of the wrong pronoun), and end with the final conversation scene, without any of the plane or drug dream sequences, and this would have made it all the more effective, surely.
  22. Just to confirm: the jewelcase version (bought from amazon UK) has the booklet with 24 pages. (I don't think there is a booklet with only 16 pages?)
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