SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Maybe in the Blue Mountains, where he led his people? Doesn't matter really, for all we know, even the writers might not have an answer to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 On another note, in AUJ when Thorin is shown at the end of the prologue making a sword where is he?Where he was able to find that job. In Tolkien's writings, it is indicated that it is his own forge.Maybe in the Blue Mountains, where he led his people? Doesn't matter really, for all we know, even the writers might not have an answer to that.See my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I just wanna see if he does anything with the Isengard theme, perhaps some kind of building brass fanfaric version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'd be interested in seeing him do something with that theme yes! It's hard to imagine it sounding another other than menacing and opposing those. I guess that could still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I demand a mock up as I am too lazy to reach for a guitar or piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Company journey themeBut the journey is finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 LotR, dude! The Fellowship theme will be replaced by Plan 9's theme in the upcoming 6 film box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 LotR, dude! The Fellowship theme will be replaced by Plan 9's theme in the upcoming 6 film box set.What does Plan 9 have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Lee's appearance was confirmed last year in AUJ extendes cut commentary.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 And by Lee himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yeah, he confirmed that he does quite a bit of fighting in this movie. Didn't someone say he does something quite heroic in this one too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That "windlance" thing is pretty stupid, in design and conception.Dwarves are apparently artillery experts. Handy with bows and all that.But I would expect it to be more angular being a dwarven design.Didn't know it was dwarven design, thought it was from a city of men.It is named dwarven windlance in DoS so I guess there might be some connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectionInternal 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I've lurked here before the premier of each film, and I first off want to say that I think that the best discussion of the Hobbit movies on the internet occurs here and in the individual movie threads.I've gotten so infuriated by some of the artistic license PJ took with the hobbit films that I took it upon myself to recut the films. I just completed recutting the EE AUJ and the theatrical version of DoS. EE AUJ edited down is 2:43:00, 2:52:30 with credits, so I removed roughly 20 minutes. I was never really concerned about its length, it was just that every time Azog appeared on screen I wanted to pull my hair out. I don't think I'll ever have that problem again. DoS edited down is 1:53:40, 2:03:30 with credits, 40 minutes removed. The wonderful thing is that Peter Jackson did over-film the movies, but the fact that he did makes it so incredibly easy to fix by taking a scalpel to his films. Most of my changes in AUJ involved eliminating Azog and any mention of him beyond the introductory history lesson. I realized that he would need to be introduced so we know who he is when we run into him in movies 2&3, but it just seemed so pointless to have him pursuing the dwarves throughout movie 1. Other changes involved cutting away the ridiculous cartoony action sequences in both films that were just over the top CGI abominations. All those complained about here, the run through Goblin Town, Legolas surfboarding on everything, Dwarves vaulting themselves every which way. Speaking of, I loved completely eliminating the confrontation between the Dwarves and Smaug. The entire sequence is so long and full of shots sans dwarves, by cutting all the pieces with the dwarves and some clever soundtrack manipulation, you can tell a story of Smaug chasing Bilbo through the furnace room, into the hall of kings, then going off to Laketown to murder everyone. The Kili/Tauriel/Legolas love triangle? Gone. The dwarves being left behind in Laketown? Gone. Tauriel and Legolas taking on Orcs during the confrontation in the mountain? Gone. But honestly, my favorite parts of the project was restoring everything I could of the original soundtrack Shore wrote to the movie. In some parts it was unfortunately not possible, just from the nature of the final movie mix, but in other scenes it worked like a charm. I especially enjoyed putting Bilbo's theme back in where I could. I also swapped the jarring Nazgul theme for the dwarven theme in Thorin's charge. I managed to make it look as if Thorin charges Azog's warg (you never get a good look look at Azog himself, he never appears in frame). Removing Azog from that sequence may have been the hardest bit of either of the projects, but Shore's soundtrack really ends up carrying it. I made it so the warg uses Thorin as a chew toy for a couple seconds then throws him away. I also really liked restoring Shore's score to the very end of the movies, as the way PJ decided to end both movies in silence was incredibly annoying to me. The score makes both so much better, even if in DoS PJ only removed some 5-7 seconds.I know if I ever shared my version of the films widely I'd probably get sued, but for me personally, it is such a relief to be able to watch and enjoy them after spending so long fuming about how they could have been so much better if PJ had just woken up, trimmed the fat from his movies and trusted Shore's instincts as a composer. How do you folks feel about fan edits fixing the perceived problems in the films? I'd never done any video editing in my life before this, and found myself devoting hours and hours of my time to learning final cut so I could actually enjoy the films for what they could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 There's nothing wrong with making your own cut for educational and personal purposes. Personally I'd never have any interest in watching a fan edit (Faleel's music restored videos aside) but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hi ReflectionInternal! Glad to have you on board for what I agree is the best Hobbit/LOTR discussion on the internet Your fan edits sound really cool! Though I question why you did DOS before the EE is out. I think you're going to want some or all of the Beorn and Thrain stuff in your final cut As for sharing them with people, you don't have to worry about that - people share fan edits over the internet all the time. Have you been to originaltrilogy.com? ReflectionInternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Would it not be best to wait with a fan edit of this trilogy until after it is completed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Well, he had never edited before, so this way he got to learn how to do it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Would it not be best to wait with a fan edit of this trilogy until after it is completed?Would it not also be best to wait with watching this trilogy until after it is completed?Here are all three banners combined into one (I know there are some scenes and "alternates" missing) Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectionInternal 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Would it not be best to wait with a fan edit of this trilogy until after it is completed?My edits definitely haven't been locked, and I expect I'll be tweaking them until the BoFA EE comes out. I mostly wanted to to DoS now, (and AUJ for that matter) so I could see if it was even feasible to do some of the things I wanted to do. Turns out I could! I fully expect to incorporate the EE material, and continue to mess with the pacing and soundtrack over the next year+.As for sharing them with people, you don't have to worry about that - people share fan edits over the internet all the time. Have you been to originaltrilogy.com?Never have, I'll have to go check it out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That's tiny, is there a big version available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Welcome aboard ReflectionInternal! I have been toying with the idea of editing a fan version closer to Tolkien but never got around to it. I am glad someone has done so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Finally a poster with the star of the story featured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yeah! Why haven't they changed the title yet?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2014 The Tag line of the film should be "The Defiling chapter" Jay, Incanus, SafeUnderHill and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The Tag line of the film should be "The Defiling chapter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's nice to see an elf other than Legolas or Tauriel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's nice to see an elf other than Legolas or Tauriel.What, Thranduil is part of this story ...? I thought it was Tauriel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Finally a poster with the star of the story featured. Are you serious? Did you not see the Bilbo poster they released BEFORE this and used on the cover of the OST?Do you think I'm serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yep. Thrain plus at least two new Beorn scenes (including what is surely the introduction scene). I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Tag line of the film should be "The Defiling chapter"Yes PJs defiling days are not quite over yet.Somehow Bilbo's "What have we done?!!!" seems to echo all three films now. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I dont get you guy, really. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I dont get you guy, really.You tease us about Quenya and Sindarin, we mercilessly kid about the relative filmic merits of these adaptations. So the world turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I dont get you guy, really.You tease us about Quenya and Sindarin.What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Kalimaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 PJ in the editing room: "kalima, KALIMA, KALIMAA!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Shame we heard nothing from the DragonCon Doug Hobbit presentation.Doug wasn't at DragonCon... I wish he had been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Shame we heard nothing from the DragonCon Doug Hobbit presentation.Doug Adams went to FantasyCon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Doug attenting so many conventions...does that make him a Con man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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