Jay 37,372 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 gary busey on hobbits:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhLvwIUuLWglove that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'll hold out for the EE (and the hope of niggles being fixed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Im buying this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 What are the chances of Jackson rescoring the Thorin fuck-up for the EE? I don't think it's beyond hope, knowing how much he changed stuff up for LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The sad thing with a fan edit is that the actual film still has problems even if you fix them somehow for yourself. I'd feel like putting effort into nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fan edits are almost guaranteed to be clueless vanity projects anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Admin note: Spoiler for the end of the book / third movie.Anyone wonder if PJ will spare Filli and/or Killi in the Battle of Five Armies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So when the love triangle develops between him, Legolas and Tauriel they can do a scene were Leggy says "my bow is bigger then yours" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Though the book is very old, there are probably still people watching the movies without having read the book and don't want to be spoiled by a major plot point happening in the third movie like that, so I spoiler-blocked your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I know Jason, but since this thread has a spoiler warning i figured it was ok.Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 No worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Not only he will spare them, but he will have Kili kill Smaug. Why else would he have given him a bow? It's how Kili will win Tauriel's heart and whisk her away from Legolas' arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I wasn't even aware of that detail in the book anymore ... damn you, dutchman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Why are you damning him? I put the spoiler warning up before you read it. It was YOUR choice to open the spoiler tag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Spoiler tags are futile. I didn't think there was any spoiler that could surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fuck off, there is a spoiler warning in the topic title and Jason put up a tag.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Spoiler tags are futile. I didn't think there was any spoiler that could surprise me.LOL. I put "Spoiler for the end of the book / third movie." in Steef's post. If you didn't remember the end of the book, why would you read the post? No one to blame but yourself dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Don't dude me, dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Here's a nicely written piece about The Hobbit movie adaptation: http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2013/01/16/a-hobbit-is-chubby-but-is-he-off-balance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think this one went online just yesterday according to the date for it shown at the top of the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 A great article indeed. And they quite correctly question e.g. the inclusion of the Azog subplot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I already did that long before that guy!I know, that is why I like you more than him. You are shouty and quick, Messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 But anyway good work on bringing us the Hobbit and LotR news. And GoT as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Very cool stuff!Goddamn the Goblin King is disgusting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 the Goblin King is disgusting!Indeed, he makes Gothmog look like the best Orc ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He's a fun character in the film because of his voice and manners. I've warmed up to his overall appearance. I could say that they went a tad overboard with making him look disgusting but I'm going to cut PJ and his digusting monster thing some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This explains why Azog doesn't quite have the skin detail etc etc that the Goblin King and Gollum have.They pulled it off though. I totally bought the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So basically "Annatar II"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So let me see if I follow:1. During main filming, John Rawls played Azog, as a guy in a costume.2. PJ decided he didn't like the way Azog looked, so asked the special effects people to come up with a new design.3. It would have been impossible to film a new actor in a costume and insert him into the already filmed scenes, so he had to be 100% CGI.4. Manu Bennett came in and did motion capture for this new version of Azog, and they put this new Azog into the Battle of Anulbizar flashback, as well as his scenes in the second half of the movie.5. They didn't bother to replace Azog in the sequence where the company is chased by wargs into Rivendell; Instead they kept the previously filmed scenes as-in, with John Rawls in costume, but changed it so now this is a new character called Yazneg and not Azog.6. They then wrote a brand new scene that never existed before that takes place at Weathertop where who is now Yazneg, having survived the warg chase to Rivendell, reports to Azog there. Wow!But why would Thorin have lines at the end of the movie going "It cannot be" if he already saw Azog during the first warg chase? Surely they didn't do any new filming with the main cast for the end of the movie right? They didn't have time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree with PJ that the original design of Azog doesnt stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Or perhaps it was just ADR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This does show once again a lack of organisational skill with PJ when it comes to having a clear idea about what he wants.Likle Arwen fighting at Helms deep, and the unsatisfactory way her arc was resolved in ROTK.Or Annatar fighting Aragorn in ROTK. (also replaced by a CGI character) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This is what I see in Boal's posts:<object seamlesstabbing="undefined" class="BrightcoveExperience" id="myExperience7241583144" data="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?&width=600&height=338&flashID=myExperience7241583144&bgcolor=%23FFFFFF&wmode=transparent&autoStart=false§ionName=%2Fentertainment%2Fnews&contentItemType=embed&omnitureServer=latimes.com&omnitureAcct=tribglobal&playerID=782523707001&playerKey=AQ~~%2CAAAAtkVbcwk~%2C5Rx45u37p7At4uUFYYBfI0whp8ObLWHD&adServerURL=http%3A%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fpfadx%2Ftrb.latimes%2Fent%2Fblog%2Fhero&additionalAdTargetingParams=%3Bplayer%3Dbc%3Bpos%3Dpre%3Bvc%3DNews%3Bclip%3D68761348%3Bsz%3D3x3%3Btile%3D13%3Bord%3D472106550&externalAds=true&linkBaseURL=http%3A%2F%2Fherocomplex.latimes.com%2F2013%2F01%2F16%2Fhobbit-fx-wiz-joe-letteri-on-gollum-the-goblin-king-and-azog%2F&isVid=true&isUI=true&dynamicStreaming=true&showNoContentMessage=true&%40videoPlayer=ref%3A74038517&debuggerID=&startTime=1358510983772" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="338" width="600"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"><param value="true" name="allowFullScreen"><param value="false" name="seamlessTabbing"><param value="true" name="swliveconnect"><param value="transparent" name="wmode"><param value="high" name="quality"><param value="#FFFFFF" name="bgcolor"></object><object seamlesstabbing="undefined" class="BrightcoveExperience" id="myExperience4354948685" data="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?&width=600&height=338&flashID=myExperience4354948685&bgcolor=%23FFFFFF&wmode=transparent&autoStart=false§ionName=%2Fentertainment%2Fnews&contentItemType=embed&omnitureServer=latimes.com&omnitureAcct=tribglobal&playerID=782523707001&playerKey=AQ~~%2CAAAAtkVbcwk~%2C5Rx45u37p7At4uUFYYBfI0whp8ObLWHD&adServerURL=http%3A%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fpfadx%2Ftrb.latimes%2Fent%2Fblog%2Fhero&additionalAdTargetingParams=%3Bplayer%3Dbc%3Bpos%3Dpre%3Bvc%3DNews%3Bclip%3D68761348%3Bsz%3D3x3%3Btile%3D13%3Bord%3D472106550&externalAds=true&linkBaseURL=http%3A%2F%2Fherocomplex.latimes.com%2F2013%2F01%2F16%2Fhobbit-fx-wiz-joe-letteri-on-gollum-the-goblin-king-and-azog%2F&isVid=true&isUI=true&dynamicStreaming=true&showNoContentMessage=true&%40videoPlayer=ref%3A74038553&debuggerID=&startTime=1358407293514" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="338" width="600"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"><param value="true" name="allowFullScreen"><param value="false" name="seamlessTabbing"><param value="true" name="swliveconnect"><param value="transparent" name="wmode"><param value="high" name="quality"><param value="#FFFFFF" name="bgcolor"></object> Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Wait! What if the weathertop scene was not newly filmed?Think about it!We have John Rawls playing Azog during the warg chase originally, so of course he survives the Elf Hunters attack. But then this was changed so now he was really playing Yazneg during this chase.But what about the scene on weathertop? If it was a totally new scene to introduce Azog to the viewing audience now, what is Yazneg doing there? Did they fly John Rawls back to NZ just to film him getting killed by Azog?OR, was this scene originally Azog reporting to THE NECROMANCER at weathertop, and they totally changed the scene around by using CGI and looping new dialogue?What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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