Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The thing is, Jackson historically adds to the run times of successive sequels, which would suggest brazen excess here when one considers the panning he's had for going overboard with part one. Surely after this reaction he has to make a concerted effort with his writers and editor to enable himself to reign his pacing extravagances in a LOT. Lord of the Rings got progressively longer; does he really believe audiences want another three hour middle section and an even longer finale? If he ends up delivering just that he's surely quite deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's not about the length. LOTR had material for that and more. The Hobbit might end up as a very weird super-long fanfic. What's more, it will be odd that the sequel story that did have the scope for what PJ is fixed on doing didn't receive near as much attention to detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's not about the length.My two butt cheeks and the part of my brain which engages during long train journeys disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Weak old people.And to think, you were championing PJ's three films at first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's also a bit much of us to ask of my mother-in-law to babysit our 23 month old and our newborn for what will effectively be four hours, Chaac. But yes, the evidence so far does point to my foolishness in expecting Jackson not to King Kong all over these movies. Then again, it's still early days and he does still have plenty of time to remember what tight editing means as far as the sequels are concerned. Although that seems a knife in the dark at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Who the hell is she talking about? Goldberry? Can't think of another LotR character now.So there goes the hope that her presence is limited to Mirkwood and Desolation of Smaug. Looks like they took the bad ideas they wisely discarded for LotR, namely having Arwen fight at Helm's Deep and having Sauron appear at the Black Gate, and adapted them for the Hobbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So there goes the hope that her presence is limited to Mirkwood and Desolation of Smaug. Looks like they took the bad ideas they wisely discarded for LotR, namely having Arwen fight at Helm's Deep and having Sauron appear at the Black Gate, and adapted them for the Hobbit.Oh boy, I think this might be it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Of course!If Legolas goes to Dale, so will Tauriel. She will be part of the elf army arriving at the scene in film 3, to be reunited with her beloved Legolas, and side by side, not to mention together with dwarves riding boars, they will fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So there goes the hope that her presence is limited to Mirkwood and Desolation of Smaug. Looks like they took the bad ideas they wisely discarded for LotR, namely having Arwen fight at Helm's Deep and having Sauron appear at the Black Gate, and adapted them for the Hobbit.Oh boy, I think this might be it...Plus they need padding to make for three films.The writers said that she "had to be an elf." Tauriel is the substitute for the warrior Arwen that PJ couldn't quite get for LOTR. I bet that in the 90's, when their idea was to make an original film in the style of LOTR, we would have had a hot warrior female elf in it, the fixed idea of PJ, Walsh and Boyens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,364 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Wow the stream is embedded here in the forum, cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Who the fuck were the women with these weird dresses?At the midnight showing there were several people dressed as Elves etc. Even one as an Easterling. Best one was a guy dressed up as Gandalf, he wasn't allowed to bring his staff into the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Who the fuck were the women with these weird dresses?At the midnight showing there were several people dressed as Elves etc. Even one as an Easterling.Best one was a guy dressed up as Gandalf, he wasn't allowed to bring his staff into the cinema.They would deprive an old man of his staff and support? How cruel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Will Jackson pull a Lucas?He will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Of course he wants to. It would be the greatest satisfaction of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 IT IS TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Less than 14 hours till the Company departs (for me at least)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Very surprised to see the theatre filling up like it is, at only 2.45pm. It's weird. And not a kid in sight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Enjoy the film Lee! You can then join the manic banter here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 2 more days for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Boss had bought us all tickets for the midnight showing in IMAX 3D HFR. So I see it tonight and Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 12 hours to go for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Just 10 more hours for me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The Hobbit cast plays "Fuck, Marry, or Kill" http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/865275/an-unexpected-erotic-journey-with-the-cast-of-the-hobbit.jhtml#id=1644133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Well I won't have wi-fi access from now till the film (as I'm off to play in a concert right now).I'll be seeing the film in little over 3 hours!Wish me luck! From what I've heard, I'll need it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm seeing it tomorrow noon.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I have no idea when I'm seeing it. I'll improvise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Ok so I thought on going to see it today at 17:30 but I'll have to sit like four spots away from where I like sitting.Fuck that, I'm going. Subtitles, 2D and 24fps. 3D makes things look smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Why subtitles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's that or dubbed. In my local cinema the version with subtitles has a discount for some reason (I think because less people go see that one). They don't show films here in their original language without subtitles unless the film is in Spanish. People aren't normally expected to know foreign languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Here's a 16 minute Q&A with Peter Jackson interviewed by Harry Knowles. I haven't watched it all yet, but apparently he discusses the Extended Edition of FIlm 1 as well as some things about Film 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'd actually like to see a cut down special edition. Remove the stone giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That scene was pointless!5 minutes of expensive CGI and for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'd actually like to see a cut down special edition. Remove the stone trolls.What? Not only is the troll scene an iconic scene from the story, but the stone trolls are SHOWN in FOTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 My bad Jason, I meant GIANTS. Sorry about that.The trolls are actually a genuine highlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Oh, the stone Giants! Yup, I agree that scene was among the most pointless in the film. Watched some of the video... he say they are doing 10-12 weeks of shooting in June-July, which they haven't written said. Said its mostly Film 3 things, but some Film 2 stuff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You've seen it then? I must have missed your saying so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 are you kidding me?!?!? the stone giants were one of the few highlights. jaw dropping! literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You must be crazy Alice!Pointless scene. Phony danger. The giants didn't even know they were there. The scene is redundant in the book, and blown up to apocalyptic proportions does not improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It was like they inserted the Disney land tie-in ride promotional video into the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Oh, the stone Giants! Yup, I agree that scene was among the most pointless in the film.It's a great score cue, though. I don't mind them inserting those sequences as long as Shore gets to write music to it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I had you wrong Karol. Never mind. Score boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's completely drowned by the sound effects, though. So, again, curse the filmmakers.Score boy!Can I be a Shore-Boy-Toy, please? Please?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I think there's only me, Joey and Alex here who first and foremost value good, pure film over other factors involved in their making. Possibly Stefan too, though I'm not certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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