ymenard 54 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's not like Calculus a small character, he's in about every Tintin comic after Le Trésor de Rackham le Rouge. I just don't get it, script wise he is essential to the upcoming movie (the submarine, etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't like Red Rackham's Treasure so I don't mind. I guess they are focusing on elements from Crab, Unicorn and the end of Treasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 This obviously means we won't ever get him in The Calculus Affair, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think that one and Ottokar have been mentioned by Jackson more than once.They seem to have gone with Crystal Balls instead, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I am sure Calculus will be in the next movie. Even if just to appease the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think Jackson mentioned that if they get to do another one, Calculus will definitely be in it.But this first movie has to establish a lot of things and introduce a lot of characters, so I can forgive them for saving Calculus for a later film. Makes me wonder how much of Red Rackham's Treasure we're actually going to see on screen, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I thought it was common knowledge that a trilogy was planned from the very beginning? They are/were to direct the first two between them before deciding what to do with the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yes, this was the plan, but they just did the one so far. I think they're waiting to see how well it does before going ahead to shoot the next one. Also, Jackson is currently doing this little project about midgets going to a mountain or something, so that might take priority for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yes I think it really depends on will this first one be a success. And of course PJ has some other things to do first if he is going to direct the second one himself. Those pesky Dwarves. Always in the way.Oh and as a complete Tintin newbie I have to ask, do the three comics that are adapted for the movie have any connection with each other? Is there a coherent story there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yes, this was the plan, but they just did the one so far. I think they're waiting to see how well it does before going ahead to shoot the next one. Also, Jackson is currently doing this little project about midgets going to a mountain or something, so that might take priority for him...He is? Is it going to be one of those documentary films like Touching the Void, only with midgets? The power of the midget spirit and all that. Because that's got Oscar baiting all over it if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yes, this was the plan, but they just did the one so far. I think they're waiting to see how well it does before going ahead to shoot the next one. Also, Jackson is currently doing this little project about midgets going to a mountain or something, so that might take priority for him...He is? Is it going to be one of those documentary films like Touching the Void, only with midgets? The power of the midget spirit and all that. Because that's got Oscar baiting all over it if you ask me.Midget Spirit. Now there is a name for the next celebratory fanfare JW will compose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Lee, if you just believe in yourself you can be whatever you want to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yes I think it really depends on will this first one be a success. And of course PJ has some other things to do first if he is going to direct the second one himself. Those pesky Dwarves. Always in the way.Oh and as a complete Tintin newbie I have to ask, do the three comics that are adapted for the movie have any connection with each other? Is there a coherent story there?The Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure are both part of a two-part story, meaning Red Rackham is a direct sequel. No direction connection with the Crab of the Golden Claws. I for one I am happy they are adapting the material. A straight up transition of the albums to the screen would not be very cinematic, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Lee, if you just believe in yourself you can be whatever you want to be!I believe in you Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I have now read the Crab with the Golden Claws and half of the Secret of the Unicorn. Is there anything Captain Haddock does in these stories besides get rip roaring drunk and shout the oddest curse words? I wonder what will his role be in the film. Something less inebriated perhaps.And these comics contain a surprising amount of slap stick humor. Tintin is banging his head into door and cupboards all the time. Thomson and Thompson are regular pair of Chaplins.EDIT: I just finished the Red Rackham's Treasure just now and I am intrigued how will they tie these three comic books seamlessly together. With the two that follow each other there is no problem plot wise but the the Crab with the Golden Claws has nothing to do with them. Plus Professor Calculus is such a big (if a bit annoying) part of the Red Rackham's Treasure it will be interesting to see what have they done with that part of the plot, submarine and all, when they excised him from the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Last night I swear I dreamed how Tintin's Theme was going to be like. Sadly, I don't rememeber it We need those footage videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Last night I swear I dreamed how Tintin's Theme was going to be like. Sadly, I don't rememeber it You must have... THE GIFT! Tell us what Johnny is thinking about right now! Read his mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 They can't do :es Sept Boules de Crystal/Temple du Soleil as the next movie without Professeur Tournesol. It's absolutely impossible. He's the center of the books.I also can't see why they would do Le Sceptre d'Ottokar next, since Haddock isn't in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Unless, you know, they adapt it so he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedohr 0 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Last night I swear I dreamed how Tintin's Theme was going to be like. Sadly, I don't rememeber it We need those footage videos!Good thing it was Paul McCartney and not you that dreamt Yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 You must have... THE GIFT! Tell us what Johnny is thinking about right now! Read his mind!No, Taiko...I... am John Williams...(breathing sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 So... are you scoring the next Harry Potter film ?I would love to, but it depends on my schedule. I have recently become acquianted of David Yates and he is a wonderful young director, so we'll have to see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm as puzzled as anyone about Calculus not being in the movies, but for now I'm going to trust Spielberg, Jackson and...Steven Moffat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I have no deep connection or affection for the Tintin comics so I think I am going to enjoy the plot the film makers have created out of these stories instead of getting overly worried about the changes and small details about the characters that might be missing. The trailer looks pretty impressive and the adventure fun and energetic.But now that I have read the three comics I think that if Haddock is not toned down he'll be drunk most of the adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 its not the first time that a character in the literature is not seen on screen.I dont think we will get the shark submarine either. too corny maybe.But now that I have read the three comics I think that if Haddock is not toned down he'll be drunk most of the adventure. That is an interesting arc for him to develop in the trilogy as he develops in the comics. He stops drinking, i mean. But not swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 its not the first time that a character in the literature is not seen on screen.I dont think we will get the shark submarine either. too corny maybe.Well that's the thing I don't get too... no calculus = no shark submarine = it's not Tintin (?!) . The ship is the most known iconic feature that Hergé created with the red&white rocket. We aren't talking about something minor like Tom Bombadil being merged with Treebeard here. There's 6 major characters in the entire series and Calculus is one of them. I have faith in the team but they themselves have to be faithful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tintin gets introduced to Haddock and Dupont and Dupond in this movie, perhaps the writers felt also introducing Calculus would be a bit too much. One thing I'm sure, as much as I love the books, they require considerable adaptation in order to provide for a good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tintin gets introduced to Haddock and Dupont and Dupond in this movie, perhaps the writers felt also introducing Calculus would be a bit too much. I suspect the same thing. Can't say I entirely disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I have now read the Crab with the Golden Claws and half of the Secret of the Unicorn. Is there anything Captain Haddock does in these stories besides get rip roaring drunk and shout the oddest curse words? I wonder what will his role be in the film. Something less inebriated perhaps.But that's the whole point of the character. What do you want him to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Haddock is Scottish right? So what else can he be but an alcoholic foul mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 My, time away from your black girlfriend has this week revealed you to be quite the racist at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Haddock is Scottish right?Uhm, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I have now read the Crab with the Golden Claws and half of the Secret of the Unicorn. Is there anything Captain Haddock does in these stories besides get rip roaring drunk and shout the oddest curse words? I wonder what will his role be in the film. Something less inebriated perhaps.But that's the whole point of the character. What do you want him to be?Uptight teetotaler of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It could just be that you don't click with the character, Incanus, and indeed the film itself. You might not enjoy it.I remember the books vividly and Haddock was easily one the best character's in the series. In fact I remember being disappointed when I discovered he wasn't in the first few adventures at all (I read them out of order).Haddock's role is on the face of it comic relief, but underneath his blundering heavy-handedness he is a fiercely loyal companion to Tintin which if done right should make for some exciting and genuinely touching moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Haddock is Scottish right?Uhm, no.Tell that to Andy Serkis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It could just be that you don't click with the character, Incanus, and indeed the film itself. You might not enjoy it.I remember the books vividly and Haddock was easily one the best character's in the series. In fact I remember being disappointed when I discovered he wasn't in the first few adventures at all (I read them out of order).Haddock's role is on the face of it comic relief, but underneath his blundering heavy-handedness he is a fiercely loyal companion to Tintin which if done right should make for some exciting and genuinely touching moments.I think Haddock annoys me because there is nothing else to him, at least not in these three stories, but either drunken buffoonery or cursing. I am not expecting enormous depths from a comic book character in a comic like this but he seems like a loyal and stalwart kind of chap when he is not drinking or having a hissy fit over something and cussing like a sailor he is. When and if I should read the rest of the series I am sure my perception of Haddock would most probably change. Proferssor Calculus is the same. I get it that he is hard of hearing but when there is not much more to him in the Red Rackham's Treasure then I can understand why he is not in the film. The film does not need another clown alongside Haddock, especially when the joke grows old after three repeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Yeah, my first paragraph could well apply to you, which is fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Haddock is developed more through the books. He holds back Tintin when he gets too idealistic. I find him hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I think Haddock annoys me because there is nothing else to him, at least not in these three stories, but either drunken buffoonery or cursing. I am not expecting enormous depths from a comic book character in a comic like this but he seems like a loyal and stalwart kind of chap when he is not drinking or having a hissy fit over something and cussing like a sailor he is. When and if I should read the rest of the series I am sure my perception of Haddock would most probably change. He's a histrionic character - he's more about the "how" than the "what". More about providing a touch of color to Tintin's orderly world than about changing it and pushing the plot forward.That being said, he does make for some of the series' more touching moments of loyalty (his attempt to cut the rope in Tibet comes to mind) and heroism.Haddock is Scottish right?Uhm, no.Tell that to Andy Serkis. Ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Yeah, my first paragraph could well apply to you, which is fair enough.Well I'll wait and see the film before saying anything about the adaptation of Haddock. But I think they will leave out much of the incidental bungling that all characters are prone to in these comic. No not drinking and cursing but bungling, banging heads to cupboard and drawers and having these small and silly accidents all the time. Except for Thomson and Thompson. They should be the regular Chaplins. Those guys are funny.I get a bit confused with the nationalities of the chatacters. Tintin is Belgian but Haddock is not? What was Herge's official stand on the nationality of these characters? Are all the main characters officially Belgian? I always thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm just looking forward to the curse Blistering Barnacles! entering the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Herge's comics have never gave any indication that the character isn't Scottish!Anyway, de drinks Loch Lomond, which says it all in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm just looking forward to the curse Blistering Barnacles! entering the mainstream.Bashi-bazouk as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Ah! I'd forgotten that one. Good memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I wonder if Williams will afford Haddock a theme of his own since has composed one for Snowy (or Milou as we in Finland know him). A nice slightly off-kilter drunken sea shanty would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon it'll be a carbon copy of the Braveheart theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It HAS to be Amazing Grace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon it'll be a carbon copy of the Braveheart theme.Of course. He is Scottish. Makes perfect sense that Williams should use Scotland the Brave for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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