Josh500 1,615 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bowie, as always, your analysis please. Okay, let's discuss this fun cue. What does everybody think of it?SPOILERS!!! (I just didn't feel like blacking out parts of every post I make. So if you haven't seen the movie yet, get the hell outta here.)Okay, I just loved that whole sequence in the movie. Sure, it's silly, but this is also one of the moments that had me laughing out loud. I mean, we know of Indy's fear of snakes, and here Spielberg is taking advantage of that fact shamelessly. When you hear "Snake Pit" you'd think JW would come up with music as dissonant and hissing as the cue in "Well of Souls" but this couldn't be more different. Somehow reminiscent of Indy's Very First Adventure in its lightheartedness and stumbling humor, and accompanies the scene quite well. To be honest, I wasn't paying much attention to the music here, I was wondering whether the HUGE snake was real or CGI or some kind of ultra-realistic Stan Winston puppet. Looked damn real to me, if you ask me.One of the best moments of Indy 4, movie-wise as well as score-wise, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Weren't people complaining that this track had no unifying theme? Becuase it very obviously does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hmmmm, no one has any thoughts on Snake Pit????????? Come on, people!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yes I believe Stan Winston was involved.It's a comical cue which is probably un-neccessary given that Raiders and TOD didn't require comical music to show Indy's fear of snakes. Granted LC did but it was part of a long action sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yes I believe Stan Winston was involved.It's a comical cue which is probably un-neccessary given that Raiders and TOD didn't require comical music to show Indy's fear of snakes. Granted LC did but it was part of a long action sequence.I thought you haven't seen the movie yet!Well, this scene isn't exactly there to SHOW us that Indy is afraid of snakes, but it takes advantage of the fact that Indy's scared of snakes and makes it funny. It's just there for comical relief . . . but I thought it was hilarious!!! Made me laugh right out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 The title of the cue gives it away as to what's going to happen plus the tone of the music. We all know he's afraid of snakes.Plus I read an article about the making that discusses Stan Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Actually, you would think that the title of the track gives it away, but it actually doesn't. Just have fun seeing the movie tonight, and get back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 yes i was expecting a pit filled with snales I think there is a real snake involved. (of course not when mutt is pulling people out with it )if not pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius_Gone_Insane 5 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Great scene, great music! The big secret getting let out, the 'school' comment, and the snake were just great, and the 'help' part LOL. Maybe the best part of the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Easily one of the best tracks on album. Which says something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Weren't people complaining that this track had no unifying theme? Becuase it very obviously does...Yeah, I was surprised by those comments, as it has a fun little motif running throughout that gives a feel somewhat similar to "The Basket Game" (not that I'm putting this track on that level). But it's a good one, and worked well in the film. Nice rhythm throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Actually, you would think that the title of the track gives it away, but it actually doesn't. Just have fun seeing the movie tonight, and get back to us.Yes the track title gave it away. There was nothing special about that scene, it pretty much played out as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 It's a comical cue which is probably un-neccessary given that Raiders and TOD didn't require comical music to show Indy's fear of snakes. Granted LC did but it was part of a long action sequence.What about the whole elephant/snake thing with Willie?Anyways, I love the cue and the scene. Though I thought the scene was funnier when Indy and Marion were just talking, it was still friggin hilarious when Shia kept shoving the snake in Indy's face. Can't wait to see it again tommorrow!"Say: 'Take the rope!'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 What about the whole elephant/snake thing with Willie?Huh? There's no music for that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Oh, yeah. I didn't see the cue part, I thought you were just talking about scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 This is a great cue, definitely one of the best on the album. And it may be unintentional, but it sounds like a little hint of "The Basket Game" at 2:28 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Probably my fav cue of the album. Reminding of Basket Chase this is like Williams' old action scherzo's, although I'd still prefer the witty melody of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 On my first listen, this track sounded realy boring to me with little sense of direction. Now I like it quite a lot and there actually IS a sense of direction. It makes me think of The Basket Chase, though isn't quite that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 To clear things up: The snake was real for the most part, except, of course, for when it was used as a rope, there a synthetic snake (made by Stan Winston's studio) came into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 To clear things up: The snake was real for the most part, except, of course, for when it was used as a rope, there a synthetic snake (made by Stan Winston's studio) came into play.do you have this fom the cmplete making of indy book? i am planning to buy it.. is it worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 To clear things up: The snake was real for the most part, except, of course, for when it was used as a rope, there a synthetic snake (made by Stan Winston's studio) came into play.do you have this fom the cmplete making of indy book? i am planning to buy it.. is it worth? Yep, it's from the book. And I would totally recommend buying it. I've just flipped through it and checked the beginning of the "Crystal Skull" part, so I don't know how much Williams-info is in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I haven't got it yet, but I plan on it, because I've heard many good things. Rinzler's Making of Star Wars book is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 Okay, those of you who like this so much, which are your favorite moments?Give me the exact times, if possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbonaut 2 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 On my first listen, this track sounded realy boring to me with little sense of direction. Now I like it quite a lot and there actually IS a sense of direction. It makes me think of The Basket Chase, though isn't quite that good.I feel the same way. It's one of those tracks that musically it doesn't affect me but then I see the movie and I like it now because it's one of my favorite scenes. Because I really I really like the scene a lot I now love the music that was part of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceOddity 0 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Really liked this track on the album, especially how it kind of recalls "The Basket Game." I also loved the nod to "Indy's First Adventure" in the immediate opening notes (0:00-0:03). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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