Lurker 5 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I love SUPERMAN, but TMP is better.And for all its flaws, I love the film, too. It's far more interesting than SUPERMAN. Although you could probably make statements about one film and have it be interchangeable with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilDon't be daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilYou're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilBulk-Unit is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilYou're an idiot.One could say the same thing about those who don't like ST:TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilYou're an idiot.One could say the same thing about those who don't like ST:TMP.And this could take all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Nah, I can make it sort and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm not sure Neil's comment is hugely different than 'if you think TMP doesn't suck, you're a gigantic nerd' in relative terms but I myself find it hard to imagine anyone not being enthralled by TMP the score. But, if someone doesn't like it, that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I love both scores, BUT, I have always had a problem with the sound quality of the ST:TMP recording. It has always sounded very flat to me with no depth at all. I would love hear someone do a re-recording of it, maybe with the LSO, that has better sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm not sure Neil's comment is hugely different than 'if you think TMP doesn't suck, you're a gigantic nerd' in relative terms but I myself find it hard to imagine anyone not being enthralled by TMP the score. But, if someone doesn't like it, that's fine.I have my reasons for not really connecting to the score. Neil will just have to learn to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222max 1 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I love both scores, BUT, I have always had a problem with the sound quality of the ST:TMP recording. It has always sounded very flat to me with no depth at all. I would love hear someone do a re-recording of it, maybe with the LSO, that has better sound quality.I can see what you're saying about the sound quality of ST:TMP. Personally, I think it sounds fine. It was recorded the old-fashioned way with close mics versus the heavy reverb sound which is in fashion today. I think there's a lot of detail in the recording. Maybe it just doesn't have that expansive concert hall sound we've been accustomed to since the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 TMP score is good, but not even close to some of my favorite scores. I guarantee I'll like Giacchino's score more than any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What Neil should've said is "To not like the music in TMP is to not like GOOD music at all."Which whilst still being a daft thing to say, would've at least been a tad more acceptable and a lot less stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 TMP score is good, but not even close to some of my favorite scores. I guarantee I'll like Giacchino's score more than any of the others.No offense but that's like saying you like Brittany Spears more than Prokofiev. But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!I will submit that Giacchino's LOST work these days is pretty damn solid so I am hopeful that he will deliver a really fun score. He's certainly got the talent and chops. I do hope he brings some of his own style to the table on this. I can see it being hard having been preceded by Goldsmith, Horner, and Rosenman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!And fun he will have. In spite of your patronising and boringly elitist remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I think Fiery Angel is actually spot on in his assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe it just doesn't have that expansive concert hall sound we've been accustomed to since the 90's.Yeah, that's definitely part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 No offense but that's like saying you like Brittany Spears more than Prokofiev. But hey, it's your opinion so have fun! vs Yea, really, what's not to love?Now...take your finger off the Mute button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!And fun he will have. In spite of your patronising and boringly elitist remark.Boringly elitist? Perhaps you ought to let Koray rebut my post. Giacchino ain't Goldsmith. And as I recall, the mere mention of Giacchino being a young John Williams threw some forum members into an uproar. So I guess it's okay to equate a young and upcoming composer to a respected fixture in the film scoring community as long as it isn't John Williams eh? p.s. I'm really effing tired of people throwing out the E-bomb whenever someone entertains some kind of higher aesthetic about the quality of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222max 1 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!And fun he will have. In spite of your patronising and boringly elitist remark.Boringly elitist? Perhaps you ought to let Koray rebut my post. Giacchino ain't Goldsmith. And as I recall, the mere mention of Giacchino being a young John Williams threw some forum members into an uproar. So I guess it's okay to equate a young and upcoming composer to a respected fixture in the film scoring community as long as it isn't John Williams eh? p.s. I'm really effing tired of people throwing out the E-bomb whenever someone entertains some kind of higher aesthetic about the quality of music.Angel, now you know better than to go upsetting the rainbow around here. People could actually get challenged about their views on music and we can't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 ST: TMP - There is no comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yea, really, what's not to love?She is such the chick you meet at the club, have the one night stand, and then get checked for the Clap the next morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!And fun he will have. In spite of your patronising and boringly elitist remark.Boringly elitist? Perhaps you ought to let Koray rebut my post. Giacchino ain't Goldsmith. And as I recall, the mere mention of Giacchino being a young John Williams threw some forum members into an uproar. So I guess it's okay to equate a young and upcoming composer to a respected fixture in the film scoring community as long as it isn't John Williams eh? Giacchino isn't Goldsmith alright, he's better than Goldsmith.It's called personal taste, ever hear of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Oh there is such thing as personal taste but it doesn't exclude people from making stupid comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 But hey, it's your opinion so have fun!And fun he will have. In spite of your patronising and boringly elitist remark.Boringly elitist? Perhaps you ought to let Koray rebut my post. Giacchino ain't Goldsmith. And as I recall, the mere mention of Giacchino being a young John Williams threw some forum members into an uproar. So I guess it's okay to equate a young and upcoming composer to a respected fixture in the film scoring community as long as it isn't John Williams eh? Giacchino isn't Goldsmith alright, he's better than Goldsmith.It's called personal taste, ever hear of it?And the earth is flat in your world too pal. enjoy luxuriating in complete and utter ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not ignorant. I respect Goldsmith, he is in the top ten greatest composers of all time. I just prefer to listen Giacchino, JNH, Williams, Powell... a lot of composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Giacchino is still a long ways away from Goldsmith/Williams. Don't get me wrong, he's the best thing in the music world right now, even better than Williams at this instant, but he's still far away from Goldsmith and Williams in their totality. Powell and JNH will never really get to Goldsmith/Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not ignorant. I respect Goldsmith, he is in the top ten greatest composers of all time. I just prefer to listen Giacchino, JNH, Williams, Powell... a lot of composers.Which is perfectly fine. I like Giacchino and Powell too (actually Powell a lot more after his outstanding work from 2008). Goldsmith's best scores (circa 1968 to 1982) were often challenging listening as his real influences were 20th century modernists like Webern, Berg, Varese, Bartok, with a touch of Debussy and Ravel for his more impressionistic moments. I certainly warmed to Williams faster in my younger days because Jerry was always "the atonal guy" who was able to use dissonance effectively but which did not appeal to the ear a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 You stay classy, Blumenkohl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ron Burgundy would not stand to see his art work defiled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 This Giacchino is beginning to bore me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 p.s. I'm really effing tired of people throwing out the E-bomb whenever someone entertains some kind of higher aesthetic about the quality of music.Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 p.s. I'm really effing tired of people throwing out the E-bomb whenever someone entertains some kind of higher aesthetic about the quality of music.Are you?Yeah, I overreacted a wee bit. My apologies. Got a spot of bad news yesterday so I probably shouldn't have been engaging in music conversation on this forum in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 No worries man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 This Giacchino is beginning to bore me.he doesn't bore me since he never excited me. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 This Giacchino is beginning to bore me.he doesn't bore me since he never excited me. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzWhat bravery. Be nice to him, my dear. Blow him a kiss*.*of career death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 To not like the music in TMP is to not like music at all.NeilYou're an idiot.One could say the same thing about those who don't like ST:TMP.And this could take all day.You're all idiots.There, I've finally said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well you're sure setting a positive example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 ... Are you calling me an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Do you dislike ST:TMP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Then you're not an idiot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Does that mean that as long as I like ST:TMP, I'm not an idiot? Because I'm not sure I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I believe that was the whole point of the conversation.And mind you we're talking about the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 This Giacchino is beginning to bore me.he doesn't bore me since he never excited me. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzThat is until we hear the new TREK score and then we could alllllll be sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 well according to Abrams its surpasses Courage, Goldsmith, and Horner in both scope and brilliance. I will be like the judge in Miracle on 34th Street, and I will keep an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 well according to Abrams its surpasses Courage, Goldsmith, and Horner in both scope and brilliance. I will be like the judge in Miracle on 34th Street, and I will keep an open mind.*Dumps a million CD's on your desk*1 million Star Trek score CD's, all written by Michael Giacchino... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 well according to Abrams its surpasses Courage, Goldsmith, and Horner in both scope and brilliance. I will be like the judge in Miracle on 34th Street, and I will keep an open mind.*Dumps a million CD's on your desk*1 million Star Trek score CD's, all written by Michael Giacchino...well if Abrams is correct its bound to go gold, maybe even Platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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