Jay 37,375 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Every.Damn.Movie!Amazon Studios developing Galaxy Quest TV series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I've read that before. It's dumb because the movie parodied TV sci-fi like Star Trek with its legions of deranged fans. Now it's going to become what it's making fun of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Though if I don't understand a movie, there's a little thing called Wikipedia that makes it all better.If a film has a wobbly plot and can't stand on its own feet without having to read the story "walkthrough" on Wikipedia, then there's something wrong with it.Serenity is like reading a news article where the journalist or editor writes an awkward series of tenuously related paragraphs that don't flow together to make for a cohesive narrative.The script is too ambitious for its own good. It needed a script doctor to simplify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The thing is Serenity would never have made me watch the TV show. The story didn't hook me, I found it too convoluted, the point of some of the characters. I'm still not a fan of the film, though it has some good bits.It's only because my brother insisted I should give Firefly a try, is why I ultimately watched it. And the pilot didn't convince me either to stick with it, it was 3-4 episodes in that it started to click.So yeah Firefly is better than Serenity, but the film is a nice way of wrapping up things for the fans that wanted more I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 But you're the only one who thinks it's "too ambiguous". We all agree that one needs to be a fan of the Firefly series in order to connect with it, but no one has problems understanding it. The movie is some kind of closure to the series. We finally get to see River kick some ass. The movie is made for the fans, not for someone who is a stranger to Firefly.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Buffy had an awesome pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I thought it was uninteresting but I hadn't seen the Patrick Dempsey Luke Perry movie beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The thing is Serenity would never have made me watch the TV show. The story didn't hook me, I found it too convoluted, the point of some of the characters. I'm still not a fan of the film, though it has some good bits.It's only because my brother insisted I should give Firefly a try, is why I ultimately watched it. And the pilot didn't convince me either to stick with it, it was 3-4 episodes in that it started to click.So yeah Firefly is better than Serenity, but the film is a nice way of wrapping up things for the fans that wanted more I suppose.I honestly don't understand people saying the pilot wasn't really engaging. I thought it was a fine episode. Maybe people are thinking of The Train Job instead of Serenity (not the movie, the original pilot episode)?You did watch the episodes in production order, not in airing order, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Buffy had an awesome pilot.It did. Better then the rest of season 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 And the pilot didn't convince me either to stick with it, it was 3-4 episodes in that it started to click.Not that unusual for a series. The Wire is said to be one of the best TV series ever but it took me a while before it clicked with me. Getting the known the characters (which is what it's really all about in Firefly) can take some time. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Pilot episodes aren't generally great episodes. They're just here to introduce the characters and the story, so they rarely have memorable moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Yeah, the pilot of Seinfeld was pretty much entirely rubbish, and most of the networks agreed (it almost very nearly didn't get picked up). Curb Your Enthusiasm on the other and started out great right from S01E01 Pants Tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You did watch the episodes in production order, not in airing order, right?As they appear on the blu-rays. Is that how they were meant to be seen?Pilot episodes aren't generally great episodes. They're just here to introduce the characters and the story, so they rarely have memorable moments.But they should... pilots are meant to attract the largest audience possible. Introduce and amaze.Like how the pilot of Breaking Bad or the miniseries of BSG were already mindblowingly good. And the series just improved after those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,347 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well, in that respect, I wouldn't have continued watching The Simpsons at the time. It only genuinely clicked with me when I became familiar with the characters. The more I knew the characters, the funnier or the more endearing it became. Some series you got to give some time. And from what I remember, not every one was sold to BB after just one episode.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 BB's second episode had that awesome bit with a bathtub. That's where I knew I was in for something truly great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I didn't fully buy into Breaking Bad until the spectacular and devastating basement strangulation scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 LOST has the best pilot ever. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Twin Peaks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I didn't fully buy into Breaking Bad until the spectacular and devastating basement strangulation scene.That was brilliantly set-up and executed. The scene where Walt assembled the broken plate is fantastic in its tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 LOST has the best pilot ever. 'Nuff said.Which pilot? Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 What's the consensus on the best Star Trek pilot? Emissary or Where No Man Has Gone Before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 No love for Encounter at Farpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Thats not very good."I sense great joy and gratitude Captain, great joy and gratitude....from both of them." - Troi.Weepy shite.Emissary is my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 No love for Encounter at Farpoint?Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Encounter at Farpoint is great. That is, until they get to Farpoint Station. The Q stuff and saucer separation sequence is great. Then.... Zzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Don't ask me, I haven't seen any televised Star Trek in... a decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The one thing I can say for Farpoint is that it's not quite as bad as much of the rest of its season....it has lousy acting though. Not even Stewart seemed to know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 LOST has the best pilot ever. 'Nuff said.With this I have to agree. The whole first season was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Seems to me that if Lost had the best pilot ever, the goddamn plane wouldn't'a crashed. Jay and Glóin the Dark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Buffy had an awesome pilot.It did. Better then the rest of season 1.I think the first season is better than it's given credit for. It had me hooked all the way through. Yeah, the pilot of Seinfeld was pretty much entirely rubbish, and most of the networks agreed (it almost very nearly didn't get picked up).I like the "Seinfeld Chronicles". There's something about the rawness of those early eps that engages me more than the more unlikely stories that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 What's the consensus on the best Star Trek pilot? Emissary or Where No Man Has Gone Before?Caretaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'm sorry if we put you out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Voyager fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm currently watching It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and BoJack Horseman on Netflix. Two of the funniest series I've ever seen Also watched a couple of older episodes of The Apprentice on YouTube, and one thing really pissed me off - one team won by a very small financial margin, and strategically, there was virtually no difference between the two teams.... yet someone still has to be fired. I don't normally take reality shows seriously, but for a show that is at least trying to highlight business competences, that's a terrible example to set. You can't judge any business or its people based on its day one profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 What season are you up to in Sunny? It was great for 5-6 years then drops off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Well, it's going to be on through at least another 12th season. Are the later seasons at least watchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yup definitely, just not outright classics like the golden years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It's Always Sunny dipped around Seasons 5 and 6 but there are some truly hilarious moments in 7-9. I haven't seen Season 10 yet but I hear it's a return to form. The problem with it and many other shows, like the U.S. version of The Office, is that they go on for way too long. They introduced some nice ideas to actually develop the characters and change it up but they would always erase it all at the end of the episode. Biggest dropped opportunities being Charlie finding a woman that loves him and Dee not caring about being made fun of anymore. Instead they decided to recycle stuff from the early seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm partway through season 5, and the stories are fairly ridiculous at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Looking at the episode list on wiki, there's memorable episodes in every season The Night Man episodes were the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I've only seen one snippet, in which a couch gives birth to a slimy naked Danny DeVito. Forgive me for having no interest in watching anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Danny DeVito saved that show, and it was all the better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wha? Season 1 was perfectly fine without him!But yes, he joined the show out of nowhere and completely fit in with the rest of the cast like he was always there. Rare for that to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Season 1 is great, but I mean that he literally saved the show from cancellation. FX told them that that they needed to bring in a big name or else they would get the boot.Frank is my favorite character on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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