Hitch 57 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 They remasted TWOK? So the old 2disc SE I have is worthless now?I thought they were just remastering for bluray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Man, Horner looks almost scary to me - old, dishevelled, tired, almost sick ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yeah I thought that as well when I saw him on the ST interview. I prefer him with a bit more meat on his face. His DVD interviews on A BEAUTIFUL MIND and ALIENS show a healthier James.They remasted TWOK? So the old 2disc SE I have is worthless now?I thought they were just remastering for bluray...Keep your 2 disc SE. This is the ORIGINAL 1982 movie remastered to 2:40.1 anamorphic widescreen with 5.1 Dolby Digital EX sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 This is incredible! Have you ever seen the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I wonder what the others look like since they've been reported not giving a true remastering like Star Trek II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yeah I thought that as well when I saw him on the ST interview. I prefer him with a bit more meat on his face. His DVD interviews on A BEAUTIFUL MIND and ALIENS show a healthier James.They remasted TWOK? So the old 2disc SE I have is worthless now?I thought they were just remastering for bluray...Keep your 2 disc SE. This is the ORIGINAL 1982 movie remastered to 2:40.1 anamorphic widescreen with 5.1 Dolby Digital EX sound.Interesting. I forgot they added scenes back into TWOK.Did III and IV get remastered too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Jay,Read The Digital Bits on what they had to say on 5/11 about those.http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa167.html#trekbd2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Can he cook, or can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Fascinating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 With those 'errors' being reported about the others. Someone like me who has only a 42'' HDTV shouldn't really notice it too much. I'm still planning on buying the set this year a long with the TOS Season 1 Blu-Ray set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 You must learn to govern your passions. They will be your undoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 The waterfall on the matte painting for the Genesis cave looks great, more blue. Funny, a few days ago I posted an old Starlog article on my blog about the matte paintings for TWOK. That image always looked flat to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 I did feel that there is a more prominent blueish hue running the movie. It looks and sounds fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I still haven't decided if I'm going to upgrade my Trek dvds to blu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'm not.The only one I want is ST:TMP that features the original cut of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Man, Horner looks almost scary to me - old, dishevelled, tired, almost sick ... It looks like he's whistling. I wonder if he's whistling Star Trek II or Aliens. I wonder if he even knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davros72 1 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Star Trek II! Oh wait, this isn't the Guess the Screenshot thread, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Man, Horner looks almost scary to me - old, dishevelled, tired, almost sick ... It looks like he's whistling. I wonder if he's whistling Star Trek II or Aliens. I wonder if he even knows.Actually that would be Star Trek III or Aliens..... The man is in his 50's, not everyone ages gracefully. But he was rather small and thin to begin with, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Actually that would be Star Trek III or Aliens..... Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 At least he doesn't have wrinkles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 At least the man still has a full head of hair. Gray is ok if you've got your hair. You can color your hair, you can't paint over baldness.I figured you'd correct me on the difference between II and III. I never listened to Aliens outside of the film and it doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I enjoy the score to Aliens, regardless of the Klingon music appearing in it.I just brought it up because it was mentioned in the recent FSM Star Trek Podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'm glad I got into the scores in the reverse order.... for me, thats Aliens music in ST3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I got bored easily by the Horner interview. I should go back and listen to it, but he doesn't seem to have much enthusiasm for it.I have a 42" HDTV and the Blu-Rays look damn good, especially TMP. The only real issues I have is with TVH, where some of the scenes look a little blurred out. Of course, this'll be different on a 110" screen like the digital bits guy used...It's interesting that cue sheet says 'revised September 1, 1982' when the movie was released in June 82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'm not.The only one I want is ST:TMP that features the original cut of the film.I know of your fondness for antiques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 At least we now know he was at the TMP recording sessions with Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 At least we now know he was at the TMP recording sessions with Jerry.He was probably secretly taping it for Roger Corman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I don't like listening to Horner with that phony accent of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Horner thinks he is singing the Khan Theme, but actually he's singing the Klingon Theme.He's confused.EDITOtherwise, not bad. But he's nearly as boring to listen to as John Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 He tasks you. He tasks you and you shall have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 Or Hans Zimmer....the quintessential snooze-fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Don't insult my intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 I've the Horner clip uploaded here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Horner thinks he is singing the Khan Theme, but actually he's singing the Klingon Theme.He's confused. I'm afraid you are the one who is confused- he is actually humming Aliens. I enjoyed the clip, thanks Hitch. He's more personable and less egotistic in this interview than he often is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 It's interesting to hear Horner talk. Sometimes you think they'd sound different with the way how they look. This is I think the first time I've seen a Horner interview. Thanks for putting that up Hitch.Edit: I noticed that they played some unreleased bits during that interview. I hope one day we get an expanded edition of the score, it definitely deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I've the Horner clip uploaded here Did I hear that right!!? Did he call Jerry Goldsmith "Joey"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 You having hearing problems, mister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Maybe it's revenge for being called "Jamie."Jeff-who, today, celebrates his 9th wedding anniversary. Can you believe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Yes, I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 You having hearing problems, mister? Seriously! It's like withing the first 15 seconds of the interview. I had to rewind it twice to make sure I was right. But, he calls him "Joey." The only thing I can think of is that he was going to say "Joel", realized he was wrong, and stumbled the rest of it.Jeff-who, today, celebrates his 9th wedding anniversary. Can you believe it?Congratulations!(From Williamsfan301, who celebrates his 5th wedding anniversary in July) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Sounds like he morlocked Joel and Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 It was interesting to watch, though - but he repeats himself a lot. And, yeah, that accent is so put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Not to mention the PAL speed.Sounded like he was on helium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I always thought PAL was slower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 You thought wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Fair enough. The reason for my thinking PAL was slower is purely down to playing video games. When I was 16 I seem to remember reading in a magazine that the NTSC version of Street Fighter II was slightly faster than its PAL counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Not so wounded as we were let to believe. So much the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 It was interesting to watch, though - but he repeats himself a lot. And, yeah, that accent is so put in.I loved the way he said "Harve Bennett" as if he was trying hard to remember the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Fair enough. The reason for my thinking PAL was slower is purely down to playing video games. When I was 16 I seem to remember reading in a magazine that the NTSC version of Street Fighter II was slightly faster than its PAL counterpart.NTSC has 60 half-fields per second, PAL has 50. That means that if you play the same sequence of 50 half-frames directly on each system, it'll take a second in PAL, but less in NTSC. That's how video games used to work, when all computers of a brand were still pretty much the same and there was no reason to do actual time calculations in games. Therefore, NTSC games were faster than PAL games.With movies, the 24 frames of a film have to be converted into PAL or NTSC format. With NTSC, they take alternatingly take three half-fields for one frame of film and two for the next frame (so-called 3:2 pull-down). This matches the 24 frames perfectly to the 60 half-fields. With PAL, they simply make two half-fields (i.e. one full frame) for each film frame. That matches the 24 frames to 48 PAL half-fields. The last two half-fields in that second will already be from the next second of film. This means that for film, PAL runs faster (about 4%), but smoothly, whereas NTSC runs at real speed (nearly... the 60 hfps aren't an exact number, it's actually 59.94) but is jerky.In my opinion, the most important thing about Blu-Ray is that movies actually come in the original frame rate, without speedup and without pull-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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