Faleel 5,360 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Which big action cue do you prefer from FOTR? Khazad-Dum which has the epic statements of the Fellowship theme and the muted brass passage at: 4:52 that almost says "Gandalf owned you!"or Parth Galen with the statements of the Strider and Uruk-Hai material.....VOTE NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Khazad Dum is KING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The latter is great (when it's extended), but the former still wins hands down (especially when it's extended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Khazad Dum is KING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 "The Bridge of Khazad-Dum" is one of my absolute favorite pieces in the whole series. I love it. So that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 As much as I like the marvellous Parth Galen(especially the Extended version), Khazad-Dûm is the winner. And if you pile Glamdring on top of that it is very hard to choose otherwise. Hearing these two pieces live in the FotR Live Projection was simply astounding, magnificently performed by our local orchestra, choir and soloist Kaitlyn Lusk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No contest. Khazad-Dum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Exciting poll, Faleel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Apparently, I'm alone here, but I've chosen Parth Galen. I find it more emotionally charged : this is the Fellowship last stand ! This is Boromir last stand, damn it !Khazad-Dûm is awesome, obviously, but on a different level.By the way, did anyone try to do an edit to make one long track with Khazad-Dûm and Glamdring ? Never noticed that the part where the Balrog hits Gandalf with his whip was slightly different in those two tracks until I tried to do that edit.P.S. : Does the first option of the poll includes the last minute of Balin's Tomb ? Because that changes everything ! P.P..S. : Not that anybody cares, but I always thought Glamdring should have been called The Balrog Of Morgoth, in the CR. It would be a better title for such a badass cue.It was a close call for me between the two pieces as I said before. Both are intense and powerful pieces of music. And the CRs have several tracks where I would have changed the track title but that is such a minor quibble and you can always do that for the mp3s if you feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Khazad-Dum is one of the best action tracks of the 2000s. Up there with "African Rundown" P.S. To me on the complete recordings Khazad Dum starts at the last 1:15 minute of "Balin's Tomb" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Easily "Khazad-Dum". It's THE action track from that score. I'd rather listen to "The Bridge of Khazad-Dum" over the CR version just for that first bit of the Fellowship theme with those gorgeous accompanying strings.I also LOVE the overhead view of them running across the bridge with the music that plays. Incredibly epic feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It also must be said the film mix is better than the ones on either disc. I like how the chorus is at the forefront there. Many people find this to be one of the most memorable pieces in the trilogy.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Apparently, I'm alone here, but I've chosen Parth Galen. I find it more emotionally charged : this is the Fellowship last stand ! This is Boromir last stand, damn it !Khazad-Dûm is awesome, obviously, but on a different level.By the way, did anyone try to do an edit to make one long track with Khazad-Dûm and Glamdring ? Never noticed that the part where the Balrog hits Gandalf with his whip was slightly different in those two tracks until I tried to do that edit.P.S. : Does the first option of the poll includes the last minute of Balin's Tomb ? Because that changes everything ! P.P..S. : Not that anybody cares, but I always thought Glamdring should have been called The Balrog Of Morgoth, in the CR. It would be a better title for such a badass cue.The burst of the fellowship theme is included, but ever withought that statement 4:52 makes that cue better than PG for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 what's with these non JW related random music polls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 It also must be said the film mix is better than the ones on either disc. I like how the chorus is at the forefront there. Many people find this to be one of the most memorable pieces in the trilogy.KarolI agree. The track is great but I am still disappointed that the vocals have been almost buried under the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 what's with these non JW related random music polls?There is a rebellion brewing KM. Alert the board authorities before it's too late. You're my only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Khazad-Dum is one of the best action tracks of the 2000s. Up there with "African Rundown" You're joking, right?About African Rundown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've always preferred Miami International to African Rundown, though both are outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Steef is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Apparently, I'm alone here, but I've chosen Parth Galen. I find it more emotionally charged : this is the Fellowship last stand ! This is Boromir last stand, damn it !Khazad-Dûm is awesome, obviously, but on a different level.Nope I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've always preferred Miami International to African Rundown, though both are outstanding.I prefer any cue from Quantum Of Solace or Dawn Treader over Casino Royale.I just listened to it again in the car today. Besides the recording of the Bond Theme at the end, the action music bores the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 They are all 3 good scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I've always preferred Miami International to African Rundown, though both are outstanding. I kinda dig African Rundown, since it's got some thematic development, and rather unique orchestration. Nor does it get bogged down in CSI-esque electronics, obnoxious modern action (and Bond) score cliches, or seriously overstay its welcome.I'm sorry but Miami International is bleeding hideous. The airport and the David Arnold cue.Besides the recording of the Bond Theme at the end, the action music bores the hell out of me.Exactly. The factory-default 'suspense' cues aren't much better, either. All pretty much dramatically redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 There are about 30 minutes of Casino Royale that are actually worth being heard on album. The rest is more or less filler.I made my own edit years ago, and rarely listen to it.QoS has the length Arnold should aim for in the future, maybe even less. If his style doesn't change, that is. If there's more interesting music, more on album please.But as it is, I don't need every cue on CD.Besides the recording of the Bond Theme at the end, the action music bores the hell out of me.Exactly. The factory-default 'suspense' cues aren't much better, either. All pretty much dramatically redundant.As you know, I spent a lot of time scrutinising Barry's Bond scores recently. And you'd think I tired of it. On the contrary, it made me appreciate the music even more and got me hooked. I listen to Barry quasi nonstop these days. And squeezing Casino Royale in between ... I'm sorry, but I can't go back there. It sounds tedious and pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 There are about 30 minutes of Casino Royale that are actually worth being heard on album. The rest is more or less filler.I made my own edit years ago, and rarely listen to it.QoS has the length Arnold should aim for in the future, maybe even less. If his style doesn't change, that is. If there's more interesting music, more on album please.But as it is, I don't need every cue on CD.Arnold overscores, probably just from bad judgement. One of the greatest gifts a film composer has, is the power silence. Knowing when music would not add anything important, or at worse become obtrusive. Sadly it's more common now than it has been since the Golden Age.Take Goldsmith's CHINATOWN - very fine score, yet it only lasts 30 minutes or so. Why? It was practical. Goldsmith's only have 6 days to write it, so the music had to be applied the picture with restraint. Not plaster the whole thing with signposting underscore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Also one of the greatest powers for a composer is the power of paycheck. And even though film making is collaborative art the composer more often than not has to accomodate the opinions of the directors and producers on the amount of music they compose and its placement in the film. I blame the "more is more" and play it safe thinking of the modern film makers who in their insecurity try to pad up things with wall-to-wall scoring.Of course producing an album is another art altogether but let's not go there in the this thread, it's a silly place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Arnold overscoresHis stuff is always over-orchestrated as well. It can quite get vulgar at times.Still, there's a time and a place for such an approach and indeed sometimes my mood desires that brand of bombast. Just not all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Alright, I believe the time is right for this poll to close.....now to figure out how to do it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 No....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Don't make me chose!I LOVE ALL of THEM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 The winner is: Parth Galen!nah, its Khazad-Dum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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