Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Anything's better than hanging around for 10 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I bet no one will be able to guess what movie this shot is from! I paused the movie here randomly and thought it was sort of oddly beautiful Reveal hidden contents Could be A STAR IS BORN (1954), or BUGSY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Watched Fight Club last night, after 18 years! It's a well-made film but I always find it to be way too smug for its own good. The Dust Brothers score is very good actually. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Croc, you didn't watch FIGHT CLUB, last night, because, if you had, you would know the first rule of Fight Club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, crocodile said: Watched Fight Club last night, after 18 years! It's a well-made film but I always find it to be way too smug for its own good. The Dust Brothers score is very good actually. Karol It's all quite Nolanesque though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Don't you EVER say his name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 According to Monsignor TGP and reverend crocs, His true name is unspeakable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 That's The Doctor's name. His name shouldn't be uttered...anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I never warmed up to Fight Club either. I recall rather vividly how popular it was when it hit the DVD market and it was quite an impressive two-disc set for its time, which set new standards in how films should be presented on home video. But the movie itself... I could never tell whether it believed in what it was preaching or was it all just cheeky and satirical. A strange movie experience. Gen-Xers seem to love it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Oh I liked Fight Club back in the nineties. It was smug as fuck though. I suppose that was the whole point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I just remember that Fight Club, like Three Kings and The Matrix, was a film that you were pressured into liking by the small circle of hip film types online at the time. Otherwise, you just weren't with it, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I remember it well, it's that same small group of hip film types that didn't care for your taste for the megalithic (Titanic, Godzilla, Trump, ...). However, those people are gone now, replaced by the Nolan religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I'm in that super rare subset of people who can happily be entertained by both. JWFan - where denominations are created, on the fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, crocodile said: Watched Fight Club last night, after 18 years! It's a well-made film but I always find it to be way too smug for its own good. The Dust Brothers score is very good actually. I think its smugness is an essential part of the concept. The score is good, yes. It's also perhaps the best film adaptation of a book I know. Because it's exactly the book. Nearly all the dialogue from the book is there, and everything that happens in it, except for two short passages that are not in the film (one of which was scripted but cut) and a changed ending (not for the worse). I'm a fan of Chuck Palahniuk, but Fight Club was probably the least engaging book I've read by him, simply because knowing the film, it read like the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I think its smugness is an essential part of the concept. The score is good, yes. It's also perhaps the best film adaptation of a book I know. Because it's exactly the book. Nearly all the dialogue from the book is there, and everything that happens in it, except for two short passages that are not in the film (one of which was scripted but cut) and a changed ending (not for the worse). I'm a fan of Chuck Palahniuk, but Fight Club was probably the least engaging book I've read by him, simply because knowing the film, it read like the script. It's a very well made film. But it also knows it is. It's cool and it constantly tells you so. That might be a bit of a problem, you see. Karol Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: I remember it well, it's that same small group of hip film types that didn't care for your taste for the megalithic (Titanic, Godzilla, Trump, ...). Probably the same lot who talked up Donnie Darko like it was the Second Coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, crocodile said: It's a very well made film. But it also knows it is. It's cool and it constantly tells you so. That might be a bit of a problem, you see. Karol Not for me. I appreciate the swagger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: It's also perhaps the best film adaptation of a book I know. Because it's exactly the book. Nearly all the dialogue from the book is there, and everything that happens in it. That's such a backwards criteria for good adaptation. The point of adaptation is the capture the essence of the source material (be it a book, a historical event, biography, etc...), not every individual beats. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, Chen G. said: That's such a backwards criteria for good adaptation. The point of adaptation is the capture the essence of the source material (be it a book, a historical event, biography, etc...), not every individual beats. Yes. So? Fight Club does that. It even manages to do that while staying 100% true to the book - which isn't generally necessary, and usually not possible, but in this case it works. It's a spot on adaptation and at the same time it renders the book virtually redundant. Beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I'm not talking about Fight Club. I'm talking about the all-too-prevalent perception that a "faithful" adaptation needs to be at all faithful to the individual story beats in the source material: it so doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I am the Walrus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I'm talking about Fight Club. I'm talking about the all-too-prevalent perception that a "faithful" adaptation needs to be at all faithful to the individual story beats in the source material: it so doesn't! Case in point: The Hobbit. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Margo Channing said: I just remember that Fight Club, like Three Kings and The Matrix, was a film that you were pressured into liking by the small circle of hip film types online at the time. Otherwise, you just weren't with it, man. I appreciate all three, but I don't like any of them. @Margo Channing. Jerry, Screen Junkies does a good "honest trailer", for FIGHT CLUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I'm talking about Fight Club. I'm talking about the all-too-prevalent perception that a "faithful" adaptation needs to be at all faithful to the individual story beats in the source material: it so doesn't! So you're saying Fight Club is a bad adaptation simply because it manages to do that and still succeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Richard said: I appreciate all three, but I don't like any of them. @Margo Channing. Jerry, Screen Junkies does a good "honest trailer", for FIGHT CLUB. Some people prefer movies with philosophical substance (active watching) while others like movies that numb the mind (passive watching). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Very profound, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 The question is: can one have both, in the same film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 No! Just like you can do your own thing and yet be a 100% faithful to a book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Oh he's a convincing movie dad. The film is very underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: So you're saying Fight Club is a bad adaptation simply because it manages to do that and still succeed? Tbh, I never interpreted your post in the same way Chen did. I just thought you were literally saying Fight Club was remarkable for being very faithful to the original book. It wasn't meant as a commentary on the merits of source faithfulness per se. Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 That's not what being "faithful" to the source material is! The best service a film can do to its source material is to be the best film it can possibly be in putting the main plot and themes of the source material to film. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Do you aprove of the choices Peter Jackson made when adapting LOTR, Chen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes, because he maintained the main plot and the themes of the source material by shuffling, removing, shortening, adding and/or expanding the individual story beats. If a book reads like a screenplay as Fight Club does, than you wouldn't need to change as much, but the mere act of changing, removing or adding stuff doesn't make an adaptation any more or less faithful. The quality of the resultant film does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: That's not what being "faithful" to the source material is! I know what you mean but my angle was literal faithfulness. But you're saying, Chen, that something like Jackson's LOTR was extremely faithful to the Tolkien books, but in a broader "in spirit" sense. Both approaches can be worthwhile, done right. It's really irrelevant. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps It was okay. I'm not big into these movies, but I'm sure fans of the first one hate this sequel with a passion for some reason. Nice to see Gordon Gekko up to his old tricks again, and boy is he a tricky bastard, but you'd have to be an idiot not to see his big swindle coming in this movie. Funny this came out in 2010 but imagine if it was made now in the smartphone and automation era. I could watch a third one about Gekko being replaced by a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Quintus said: Tbh, I never interpreted your post in the same way Chen did. I just thought you were literally saying Fight Club was remarkable for being very faithful to the original book. It wasn't meant as a commentary on the merits of source faithfulness per se. Yes, thank you! 5 hours ago, Richard said: The question is: can one have both, in the same film? (Although I mistrust anyone who watches this as pure fun entertainment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 So..what do you think that STARSHIP TROOPERS is all about, @Marian Schedenig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Brain-sucking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 It's about how we sometimes make the wrong choices ... Kasey Kockroach and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Aw hell yeah, Starship Troopers! One of my favorites next to Saving Private Ryan and Full Metal Jacket! It shows what America could be if liberals didn't poison the country and its relationship with the military. HOOO RAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Richard said: So..what do you think that STARSHIP TROOPERS is all about, @Marian Schedenig Space Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 8:17 PM, Disco Stu said: I bet no one will be able to guess what movie this shot is from! I paused the movie here randomly and thought it was sort of oddly beautiful Reveal hidden contents Oh I forgot to say. This is from Hoosiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Nice composition. Interesting use of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Space Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This is from Hoosiers. Aah. A lovely film, that, for some reason, was renamed BEST SHOT, for its (very limited) UK release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 What's a hoosiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Wha'?! You don't know? A Hoosier is a native in Indiana state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Dirty Dancing Evil youngin defies her honourable father by uniting with a hooligan who teaches her ungodly dancing to sinful music! Fun movie, really! Funny how distintly 80s music creeps into movie set in 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Fincher should've stuck to music videos. That was his true calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 “Vogue” is still my favorite Fincher movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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