BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fan theory: Tom Hardy's character is actually ‘The Feral Kid’ from Road Warrior, not the original Max.Meh.One interesting bit from the article I didn't know about: "Hardy is, after all, signed on to three more films (two of them are prequels)."Rictus Erectus!Fantastic character name! The movie is filled with those: Imperator Furiosa, Immortan Joe, The Splendid Angharad, The Organic Mecanic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'm seeing this tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I MIGHT see it tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Do...or do not....they is no might!Fantastic character name! The movie is filled with those: Imperator Furiosa, Immortan Joe, The Splendid Angharad, The Organic Mecanic...The People Eater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fan theory: Tom Hardy's character is actually ‘The Feral Kid’ from Road Warrior, not the original Max.Meh.One interesting bit from the article I didn't know about: "Hardy is, after all, signed on to three more films (two of them are prequels)."While this is generally regarded as a reboot it isnt even really that.Miller himself says that it takes place after Thunderdome, but admits that the chronology doesnt really fit. (Max starts out with the long hair from Thunderdome, but also the Interceptor from Road Warrior)IMO any real chronological continuity between films should never be made. They are kind of like the Bond films before Casino Royale. Or the Indiana Jones films, which all have dates, but never were intended to follow a serious chronology. They are stand alone adventures with a common main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'm seeing this tonight.FINALLY!If I hate this, I blame you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Is my original name no longer sufficient enough to satiate your craving for exotic names Alvar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I know, it annoys me too. You'd be hardpressed to find a 2D showing of any big blockbuster anymore. It's either 3D, IMAX, DB, UltraAVX, Dolby Atmos or one of another million variations of the 3D experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 YeahIronically the last 3D film also offered in 2D here was TBOTFA.....which was actually shot in 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Saw it last. What a great and fun movie! About the tamest R film I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,373 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 YeahIronically the last 3D film also offered in 2D here was TBOTFA.....which was actually shot in 3D.That's not irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yes, you're all building up just enough hype to leave me disappointed when I see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stewdog1 50 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 One thing I didn't understand, what was the purpose of the blood bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Nux sickness(es) seems to affect his ability of making new blood. (He has radiation scars sculpted into engine plans...)What I thought, though, was damn, they need to give Max a really big sandwich... *mentally replays whole movie again* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 It's really impressive how much of a positive reaciton this movie is getting. I don't think I've ever seen such a near-unanimous praise (at least so far...) for any film.I'm sure the backlash is forthcoming. People will eventually start making a bigger deal of its flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yeah this might be the best Mad Max score, oddly enough. I do like Jarre's, but was never a fan of May's. May's first is too overbearing. But the one for The Road Warrior is rather good. Though many see it is a holy grail and thats far too much praise. I was watching it the other day on Sky, and that scene karelm posted (the bloke with the Mohawk chasing the kid with the lethal boomerang) struck me as particularly bad. Just wanted the composer to STFU, or at least provide something alien or electronic, while underling the important beats. That's where Jarre and Holkenberg's scores succeed. I like the track, but what is sophisticated or not about it? Harmonically it's got more going on than I'd expect for this kind of material. Major/minor dissonances that aren't the usual language of 2010 summer blockbusters, barring throwback scores like Desplat's GODZILLA. Maybe because he liked the movie I genuinely like HZ/Junkie's MOS. Can't understand the attention this score has been getting. To me it's merely a whole load of clichéd, abrasive stock cinematic gestures repeated ad nauseam... Well mixed and produced, however. I suspect that for some, Junkie's name is influencing how the work is perceived. While I don't think it's worth holding up as a great achievement, I appreciate the wit and personality of some of the sampling (i.e. the beginning of The Escape), and the abrasive panache of tracks like Immorten's Citadel, Spikey Cars and The Bog. It's not great art but it never intends to be. I'll say whether you or not you like this score's action is dependent on what you thought of the Zod stuff from MOS. That said, the adagio is almost awful as the one Faltermeyer wrote 20 years ago for TOP GUN. No defending that. Don't understand the antipathy toward the Brian May scores. I'll take these over Junkie's percussive droning anyday. THUNDERBIRDS-lite meets THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. Did anyone else notice Verdi's requiem in the movie score? Classy touch to add Dies Irae wrath in the middle of mayhem. Also, was one of the brides the same model in Transformers 3? That recurrent downwards motif that is heard, for example, here https://youtu.be/MgYnKu8RYAU?t=19 I think it is sampled, or at least derived, from this instance of Verdi's Dies Irae (at the 6 seconds mark, more or less) https://youtu.be/ZDFFHaz9GsY=6 I'd like to know what more musically educated and sensible members of this forum make of this You're both right. Hans threw in a reference to the same figure from the Requiem in Be Prepared from TLK... I know he's a big Verdi fan, so he might've given Junkie an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 One thing I didn't understand, what was the purpose of the blood bag?If you are injured, you need blood. You don't live without blood bags. Blood is life. Today we use a bag of blood to sustain life. In the Mad Max universe they use a human farm (cow) as the bag of blood to sustain life. You didn't follow that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 One thing I didn't understand, what was the purpose of the blood bag? If you are injured, you need blood. You don't live without blood bags. Blood is life. Today we use a bag of blood to sustain life. In the Mad Max universe they use a human farm (cow) as the bag of blood to sustain life. You didn't follow that?I followed that, but when you need blood, it's because you lost blood. The guy seemed to be fine without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Honestly, it's only really in there to establish that he's a universal donor in order to then set up the ending with Furiosa needing blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 And its a cool reason for Max to be strapped to Nux' chariot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 LolFury Road is still at 98% on RT a week after it opened. And I haven't read anyone either here, on Facebook, FSM, etc etc saying that they didn't enjoy it, or that it was merely OK.That's actually pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I like the track, but what is sophisticated or not about it?Harmonically it's got more going on than I'd expect for this kind of material. Major/minor dissonances that aren't the usual language of 2010 summer blockbusters, barring throwback scores like Desplat's GODZILLA.Is it really all that unique? The language Holkenborg uses is steeped in what we've heard from Zimmer for years, just done in an inferior fashion. In fact much of the score draws from early-2000s Zimmer, and sounds rather dated in parts. I have to admit, I was pretty disappointed with the score when I heard you and TGP champion it. It's a lot more conservative than I was expecting. I was really hoping for some "out-there" stuff, but too much of it is familiar, with the percussion material being MOS leftover bits and the power-anthem/adagio cues being so on the nose that even 90s/00s Zimmer might frown on it. There are a couple of cool moments that shine though, with some crafty sampling like "Spikey Cars", "Storm is Coming" or "The Bog". More of that descending motif would have been welcomed. But overall I don't really hear that unique a language from Holkenborg, or at least not one I find particularly interesting. Contrary to what TGP said, I actually find a lot of this score to be a bit aimless.Again, it's not really the sound or musical approach I'm bothered by. It's really the execution. I think Goldenthal would have been a much more satisfying choice. Even for the diagetic music, it would have been cool to hear more wailing guitars, crazier synth work, more punk rock. Either go full out, or go home. And what we got instead sounds pretty dull in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I just like it that a major blockbuster has been scored by a Dutch film composer.Kinda like seeing a new film with Rutger Hauer or Famke Jansen doing quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Your Dutch pride will be your undoing!But hey, with guys like Shore and Danna, we have at least 4 Oscars for film music alone. Don't even get me started on the actors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 William Shatner is your greatest living actor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Jim Carrey, Ryan Gosling, Keanu Reeves, Ellen Page, Rachel McAdams, Donald Sutherland...even Evangeline Lily! And more!For directors, we have Cronenberg, Villeneuve and James-freakin-Cameron.Basically, the moral of the story is, don't mess with Kanadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 No one knows they are Kanadian though. Not sure it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I like the track, but what is sophisticated or not about it? Harmonically it's got more going on than I'd expect for this kind of material. Major/minor dissonances that aren't the usual language of 2010 summer blockbusters, barring throwback scores like Desplat's GODZILLA. Is it really all that unique? Immortan's Citadel? No, Zimmer has aced that sound, but I'd rather hear explorations of that than the dire Batman minor thirds and or INCEPTION brams. In 2013-14 I was hoping MOS and ASM2 would provide a new template for the sound of summer blockbusters. A more progressive, humanist, pop savvy soundworld than the Batman trilogy's nihilism. Clearly I was wrong, but this score is a flicker of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 More scores like ASM2 (excluding the dubstep) would certainly be a welcome change of pace for summer popcorn flicks. But this score isn't nearly as daring or explorative of its soundscape as the two scores you mentioned, and it largely draws fromt he weaker elements of MOS. Imagine more of this for films like Mad Max: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 You should check out the other films KK. You'll find that the scores for those, particulary the first two, arent any less subtle. Even though they are fully orchestral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I like the track, but what is sophisticated or not about it?Harmonically it's got more going on than I'd expect for this kind of material. Major/minor dissonances that aren't the usual language of 2010 summer blockbusters, barring throwback scores like Desplat's GODZILLA.I have to admit, I was pretty disappointed with the score when I heard you and TGP champion it. It's a lot more conservative than I was expecting.Contrary to what TGP said, I actually find a lot of this score to be a bit aimless.You've gotta stop forming expectations based on what we say, because this seems to happen a lot to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 He is young, he will learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 STFU and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Is that Steef's tribute video to Famke?And in all fairness, it wasn't just you guys, but I've been hearing a lot of surprising cases made for this score elsewhere, so I went in with an open mind and some solid expectations. I guess I just didn't get what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I like the water music in the Immortan's Citadel cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 As stereotypical as it is, i rather like the theme associated with Nux and his desire to enter Valhalla.Reminds me of a late 90's/early 2000's Trevor Rabin theme, but even more basic and stripped down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I love the sense of scale in the film. Not just in the action. It feels huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yep.I'll need to see it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So. What did KK think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Mad Max: Fury RoadBadass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm seeing this tonight. FINALLY! If I hate this, I blame you!This is hate proof. You know what you're getting before hand and it exceeds on what it promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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