Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 We should do a waveform analysis. It's the only way to be sure.Or just nuke him from orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 A Thorrorist.And the second award for wittiest post today goes to ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I know you're bummed because of the cancellation, Stefan, but no need to "paint things black". I still maintain the belief that Williams is very healthy for an 83-year-old, and that the back ailment is temporary, at least as far as conducting is concerned. I also don't see the need in speculating about it; we'll know in due time if there are other issues beyond the back that will force him to slow down. Just look at how Morricone bounced back from his injuries, and is now more active than ever.Let's enjoy the output while he's around instead of wallowing in misery of what will happen down the road.(funnily, the JWFAN board is probably the only place in the world -- off- or online -- where I could be construed as an optimist! )you accuse Stefan of painting things black but you're being completely unrealistic. John is in poor health. btw the people at FSM are pussies with chronic periods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I know you're bummed because of the cancellation, Stefan, but no need to "paint things black". I still maintain the belief that Williams is very healthy for an 83-year-old, and that the back ailment is temporary, at least as far as conducting is concerned. I also don't see the need in speculating about it; we'll know in due time if there are other issues beyond the back that will force him to slow down. Just look at how Morricone bounced back from his injuries, and is now more active than ever.Let's enjoy the output while he's around instead of wallowing in misery of what will happen down the road.(funnily, the JWFAN board is probably the only place in the world -- off- or online -- where I could be construed as an optimist! )you accuse Stefan of painting things black but you're being completely unrealistic. John is in poor health. btw the people at FSM are pussies with chronic periods Might be best if we just stop making jabs at them. Doesn't really add anything and just increases the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 More negativity I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 John is in poor health. I remember that ST NEMESIS was so atrocious because Goldsmith got chemo at the time, right? Dr. Joey strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I just thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Star Wars VII is going be Johnny's Nemesis!That would be excellent. I'll take it. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 When he does pass, I'm not looking forward to the "at least we have Giacchino. After all, he is the next John Williams" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 John is in poor health. I remember that ST NEMESIS was so atrocious because Goldsmith got chemo at the time, right? Dr. Joey strikes again!You think Nemesis was atrocios?!?! WHAT?!?! I WILL FIGHT YOU ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET!!!!?!?!?!?112121j/k.However, I do honestly have the opposing view: next to TMP, it's my second favourite of the Goldsmith Trek scores. I don't know if Episode VII will be the same for me within John Williams' Star Wars scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 When he does pass, I'm not looking forward to the "at least we have Giacchino. After all, he is the next John Williams" comments. I don't think that is said here anymore, so you'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 It should have never been said in the first place! Joni Wiljami and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I still don't understand how anyone could ever think of him as the new JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Perhaps a poll can be created. The results may be "revealing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Perhaps a poll can be created. The results may be "revealing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Phew. Finally, proof that my opinion is the right one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Nobody is ever going to be "the new John Williams". It's like saying Barack Obama was the new Bill Clinton. Or red is the new blue. Apples are the new oranges. They're loosely connected by category but one is as different from the other. Why not just enjoy each for what they are and what they create rather than trying to compare or suggest a successor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 That's deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Who were the 4 and have they since been removed from the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Jay, Koko and leeallen for sure. I think I voted "yes" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Hopefully they've been segregated along with those who *REALLY* think Shore's LOTR is as good as JW's SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 those who *REALLY* think Shore's LOTR is as good as JW's SW.lolA classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 But it is! Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 But it is!And that's why you'll never be a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm sure both our current Mods share my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Do Jay and BloodBoal *REALLY* think Michael Giacchino is the next John Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm sure both our current Mods share my opinion.Well, one does: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24718&mode=show&page=The other refrained from voting, as he doesn't want to offend anyone.But anyone, that's not the point. The point is: Ricard disagrees with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Do Jay and BloodBoal *REALLY* think Michael Giacchino is the next John Williams?Never understood this notion. And it's not only because I tend to dislike most of his output, but also because I see few similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Do Jay and BloodBoal *REALLY* think Michael Giacchino is the next John Williams?You should make a poll to see what JWFANers think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm sure both our current Mods share my opinion.Well, one does: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24718&mode=show&page=The other refrained from voting, as he doesn't want to offend anyone.But anyone, that's not the point. The point is: Ricard disagrees with this!That poll was for LOTR vs the SW Prequels, I voted they're equally good. The other one is where the disagreement is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 You are obviously wrong and will need to change your vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 That poll was for LOTR vs the SW Prequels, I voted they're equally good. The other one is where the disagreement is.Ah, yes, my bad.http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24419&hl=%2Breally+%2Bthink+%2Blotr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 This forum is ridiculous. And I even liked the music of FOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 "John Williams is better than everything!"Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 "Shore's LOTR music moves and involves me emotionally. Williams' Star Wars music just annoys me to no end" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 That was a fantastic thread with some great performances. I don't regret revisiting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Jeah. I like. Fantastic performances. "Shore's LOTR music moves and involves me emotionally. Williams' Star Wars music just annoys me to no end" What a dumbfuck!Jeah. Bold act from a guy who even cannot vote. Loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Cast your vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Jeah?You mean "yeah", right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I believe I would change my vote now, in favor of Shore's work. He tells a musically compelling story in utterly unique shades that are infused with the very aesthetic DNA of Tolkien. Williams just wrote a trio of Williams scores, and while they're predictably brilliant, that's not enough for me. The films themselves are too paper-thin and ultimately that does affect the music's quality. Less complex music with greater dramatic and emotional weight > more complex and florid music signifying nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 JEAH!!Please make your choice.I believe I would change my vote now, in favor of Shore's work. He tells a musically compelling story in utterly unique shades that are infused with the very aesthetic DNA of Tolkien. Williams just wrote a trio of Williams scores, and while they're predictably brilliant, that's not enough for me. The films themselves are too paper-thin and ultimately that does affect the music's quality. Less complex music with greater dramatic and emotional weight > more complex and florid music signifying nothing.Jeah! And the LOTR movies are not paper-thin? Not much to do with Tolkien I would say. Williams' music is just so much better and most of the time, better with the picture. And my brain loves this complexity of the battle music, shore's battle music is just a joke. Maybe good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 The Hobbit has 116 leitmotifs! Star Wars doesn't even come close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Maybe good for you.You could have posted this alone and been correct. No pontification needed, and "just so much better" is not a compelling argument for your perspective, I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 The Hobbit has 116 leitmotifs! Star Wars doesn't even come close!116!! Really, I can recall two of them. Quality vs. quantity. Apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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