gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Also, I've discovered the phenomenon that the German subtitles are often different and so much better than the dub itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I agree, Dubs are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 Also, I've discovered the phenomenon that the German subtitles are often different and so much better than the dub itself.Sometimes, sometimes it's the other way round. The original subs often are totally off as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I'll take subtitles over a dub any day.Or better yet, no subtitles at all, and the original language.Of course, if it's anything other than English or Dutch, that gets a bit difficult, so subtitles will do fine.- Marc, who tried watching Der Untergang on ZDF, but had quite some trouble understanding all of the dialogue (despite it being a second viewing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 Well, der Führer didn't speak very clearly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I guess so. I could still extract what was said from context and reactions, but with a movie this good, I want to take all of it in, including all of the dialogue. Subtitles would really help fill in the blanks.- Marc, who still has that ZDF tape lying around somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Geez Marc the DVD is going for like 11 euro's, just buy it and watch it with subs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 It's the Extended Edition I'm talking about. I think that's more expensive than 11 Euros. By about... 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 And what does this have to do with Lord Of The Rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Well, it has an Extended Edition. Just like the LotR movies.So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 And both lead characters live in a hole in the ground.By the way, TTT is now up for pre- oder at Barnes and Noble. At a price of 75 $. But I hope this will go down, unless there's some major surprise we haven't heard of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 We have a probable tracklist Originally from here, but it uses frames so I can't link it directly, but here's a copy & paste:(strange numbering is the site listing the DVD tracks first separately)181: Glamdring 182: Elven Rope 183: Lost In Emyn Muil 184: My Precious 185: Ugluks Warriors 186: The Three Hunters 187: The Banishment Of Eomer 188: Night Camp 189: The Plains Of Rohan 190: Fangorn 191: The Dead Marshes 192: Wraiths On Wings 193: Gandalf The White 194: The Dreams Of Trees 195: The Heir Of Numenor 196: Ent-draught 197: Edoras 198: The Court Of Meduseld 199: Theoden King 200: The Kings Decision 201: Exodus From Edoras 202: The Forests Of Ithilien 203: One Of The Dunedain 204: The Wolves Of Isengard 205: Refuge At Helms Deep 206: The Voice Of Saruman 207: Arwens Fate 208: The Story Foretold 209: Sons Of The Steward 210: Rock And Pool 211: Faramirs Good Council 212: Aragorns Return 213: War Is Upon Us 214: Where Is The Horse And The Rider? 215: The Host Of The Eldar 216: The Battle Of The Hornburg 217: The Breach Of The Deeping Wall 218: The Entmoot Decides 219: Retreat 220: Master Peregrins Plan 221: The Last March Of The Ents 222: The Nazgul Attack 223: Theoden Rides Forth 224: The Tales That Really Matter 225: Long Ways To Go Yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 And both lead characters live in a hole in the ground.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 36 days and counting ...bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Don't count, there is every chance it will be delayed a bit.Happened with the first one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Not really any need to bump a sticky either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I just felt like posting a random thought ...... ahem ...<---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Sigh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Go listen to Fellowship 288 times. The postman will have a present when you're done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Doug Adams confirmed the track list to be accurate. Here is the list again divided into three discs if anyone is interested:1. Glamdring2. Elven Rope3. Lost In Emyn Muil4. My Precious5. Ugluks Warriors6. The Three Hunters7. The Banishment Of Eomer8. Night Camp9. The Plains Of Rohan10. Fangorn11. The Dead Marshes12. Wraiths On Wings13. Gandalf The White14. The Dreams Of Trees15. The Heir Of Numenor16. Ent-draught1. Edoras2. The Court Of Meduseld3. Theoden King4. The Kings Decision5. Exodus From Edoras6. The Forests Of Ithilien7. One Of The Dunedain8. The Wolves Of Isengard9. Refuge At Helms Deep10.: The Voice Of Saruman11. Arwens Fate12. The Story Foretold13. Sons Of The Steward14. Rock And Pool15. Faramirs Good Council1. Aragorns Return2. War Is Upon Us3. Where Is The Horse And The Rider?4. The Host Of The Eldar5.: The Battle Of The Hornburg6. The Breach Of The Deeping Wall7. The Entmoot Decides8. Retreat9. Master Peregrins Plan10. The Last March Of The Ents11. The Nazgul Attack12. Theoden Rides Forth13. The Tales That Really Matter14. Long Ways To Go Yet (Featuring Gollum's Song sung by Emiliana Torrini)There are of course several "featuring artist" credits (e.g. Sheila Chandra and Elisabeth Fraser) missing on that list (which was taken from that CDON website) but Mr. Adams confirmed the last one and we could have deduced Gollum's Song had to be there in the end anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Go listen to Fellowship 288 times. Did you actually calculate that? You seem to have too much spare time at your hands Could you subtract showering, meals and 8 hours of sleep per day for me?By the way, I've downloaded Seinfeld's seasons 7 and 8, so you might consider subtracting those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 It's up on Amazon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Go listen to Fellowship 288 times. Did you actually calculate that? You seem to have too much spare time at your hands Could you subtract showering, meals and 8 hours of sleep per day for me?By the way, I've downloaded Seinfeld's seasons 7 and 8, so you might consider subtracting those as well.24/3 = 88 X 36 = 288.Here's a calculator, you do the rest.But yes, I do have some spare time at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 It's now listed on Amazon, clicky.$25.00 more than what Fellowship was listed for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Unfortunately so.And I'm not pre-ordering until the price drops. I know it's LotR, but £50 for 3 cds is absolutely insane and I think they're pushing their luck too far And you know, what frustrates me the most is that the guys who did all the real magic on this release won't see any of that. It's a sad thing IMO that the lower cost of this release (due to Doug and the team working voluntarily) hasn't resulted in a lower than average price. Nope, Reprise is still milking it for all they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 It's worth it.Fellowship was far to cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 The music's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Fellowship was not far too cheap, but I do agree the music is worth quite something.However, from the principle, £50 is a helluva lot for 3 CDs - you have to acknowledge that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 The music is certainly worth the price. I will buy this music no matter the price. But I still wonder why the price is higher than last year. I guess we have to wait and see what is the sum they will settle for.Rich the team that works on these sets did not take on the project for free and neither did Doug Adams. Shore paid most of the cost of the whole compiling of the music from his own pocket. He has invested quite heavily in these sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Point taken I wonder how much of the price goes to Shore in that case. A lot, I hope. And I will of course buy it - I just hope the price falls before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 The price is way too high. We're getting a package that matches the first in almost every way. Why on Earth would it be so much more? That's appalling.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 It should have quite a bit more music...licensing fees, perhaps?Barnes and Nobles and CD Universe both have it for about $60.ttbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Perhaps the estimate over how much the project cost them was to optimistic for FOTR and now they have to adjust the price.Or perhaps FOTR did not sell as well as they hoped.In that case I'm pleased that they are jacking the price up for the other 2 sets instead of ABANDONING them.Imagine if FOTR CR was all we ever got?60 pounds or not, I'm buying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I'll be buying it too, naturally. I'd feel better about spending $75 on this than $25 on the Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition. I am just a bit surprised to see this price so much higher than the last album.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 License fees could also have been an issue, TTT is a longer score then FOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Really? I would have thought that Fellowship was longer. Although I am looking forward to getting this score, there aren't a whole lot of cues I can think of that I've been patiently waiting for, except for the whole battle of Helm's Deep. What are some other noteworthy cues?Ted, who thought that the Two Towers OST was by far the best of the three OSTs in both music selection and overall music quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 More of the music from the Three Walkers chasing the Uruk.All the music for the Helms Deep battle.The short, beautiful cue for when we first see Shadowfax.The Gondor music from the extende cut.The foreshadowing of the Nature Reclamation Theme when Merry is talking about the trees.The short, but impressive rising brass music for when the Huorns are killing the Uruk.The only performance of the Nazgul Theme outside of FOTR.The complete version of the underrated The Black Gate Closes.The numerous short version of Eowyn's theme.On their own any of these cues might not seem like a valid reason to buy this release, but cobbled together, with a lot of music I have not even mentioned it makes this such a worthwhile way to spend your money.Unlike Williams scores like the Star Wars stuff, where you can point out a particular track or a concert piece to show why it is so brilliant, the LOTR scores work best when listening to the whole CD or the whole score as a long single work. And I cannot emphasise, I cannot stress that in the case of TTT, it is absolutely vital to get every track, every precious 30 second cue of underscore and in the currect order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 All the music for the Helms Deep battle.I can't wait to hear all that. There is a wealth of great action music during that battle.The short, beautiful cue for when we first see Shadowfax.I have always loved that little cue from the first time I heard it. I wish there was more of it in the films. The theme heard after that, when they are travelling, I have always considered that a Shadowfax theme as well. It's heard also in its grandest form when the Rohirrim charge down the mountain. It's a brilliant theme.The foreshadowing of the Nature Reclamation Theme when Merry is talking about the trees.Any performance of that I would love.The only performance of the Nazgul Theme outside of FOTR.Yes! I'm looking forward to hearing that.On their own any of these cues might not seem like a valid reason to buy this release, but cobbled together, with a lot of music I have not even mentioned it makes this such a worthwhile way to spend your money.Unlike Williams scores like the Star Wars stuff, where you can point out a particular track or a concert piece to show why it is so brilliant, the LOTR scores work best when listening to the whole CD or the whole score as a long single work. And I cannot emphasise, I cannot stress that in the case of TTT, it is absolutely vital to get every track, every precious 30 second cue of underscore and in the currect order.You speak very wisely (except when you're making fun of my mother). To have all three of these scores in their most complete form will be truly amazing. I too think that Lord of the Rings is about everything large and small, and listening to them through is like listening to a symphony.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I have to whole heartedly agree with Stefan. LotR scores should be heard in their complete form. They are such a work that the deeper appreciation comes from hearing them in their entirety. I do not say that the cues do not stand on their own as individual moments but hearing how everything comes together and complements the whole adds so much to the listening experience. A truly deep work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Or perhaps FOTR did not sell as well as they hoped.FotR sold tons for what it is - no one can complain.In that case I'm pleased that they are jacking the price up for the other 2 sets instead of ABANDONING them.Imagine if FOTR CR was all we ever got?60 pounds or not, I'm buying this.So am I, without a shadow of a doubt.But I'm glad Ted sees my side - I feel having probably about half an hour more music doesn't justify this increase in price. I'll clarify something here - it's the business principle I object to here. Nothing will eventually keep me from buying this.Mikko - who ever suggested that we shouldn't hear these scores in complete form? I'm in total, dedicated agreement with that - I can't wait to get hold of this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Or perhaps FOTR did not sell as well as they hoped.FotR sold tons for what it is - no one can complain.It totally depends on what Reprise was hoping or expecting it to sell.Remember the 3 original releases were all among the hottest selling soundtracks of their release years.Complete score re-releases generally do not sell as well because:A. the film has faded from publicity so the soundtrack cannot ride on the succes of the film. B. People who had only a casual interest in the music because they like the songs or some music they heard in the film will likely be more then happy with the OST CD's and not spend more money on music they already feel they have.So usually these complete scores are bought by filmscore fans and devoted fans of the particular films.Titanic OST sold 25 million, Back to Titanic far less, same with Gladiator, same with Braveheart and same with The Phantom Menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 same with BraveheartHow dare you even reference that unholy piece of sh*t that is More Music from Braveheart? Someone should suffer for that. I know I did when I first listened to it. Anyway, I agree, that 75 bucks is really steep. I don't understand why a similar product as the FotR CR suddenly has to cost 50% more. Still, with this set, I'll just hop on the bandwagon, and buy it anyway. It's almost like I'm a Star Wars fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I concur with Marc regarding Braveheart.Its 'More Music From' album is a crappy, unworthy piece of plastic. Comparison with LotR CR's is like comparing Pirates of the Caribbean with Buckbeak's Flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 But I'm glad Ted sees my side - I feel having probably about half an hour more music doesn't justify this increase in price. Actually it's more like 2-1/2 hours of additional music plus a DVD-A.Barnes & Noble lists it for $60.78, $54.70 if you are a member.Check around and just don't use Amazon. That could be only a suggested retail price and it might go down as we get closer to the actual release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Doug Adams]Ok gang,I’m just back in town now. I’ll dig into questions tonight in earnest, but for now a quick—and yes, important!—update. A couple of key people had to be away this week on personal business, so while there won’t yet be an official statement in the press, Howard just called to ask me to let you know that…The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers – The Complete Recordings will be available in late October, 2006.So spread the word. You’ve got less than three months to wait now!Back later,-DougAnyone know if this is still on schedule? If so just another couple weeks then, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 The official date is November 7th, and was announced a couple weeks ago. Discussion of it is going on here, for some reason... ttbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Hey I'm not sure if it has already been mention here in this thread...but when are they going to release the complete recording for the 2nd and the 3rd movie? Are they going to release them considering they release the complete recording for the 1st movie (Fellowship Of The Ring)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 The release date has been mentioned here before. The TTT CR will be released on the 7th of November. The release date for the RotK CR is still open. They have to assemble it first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Thanks Incanus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 How dare you even reference that unholy piece of sh*t that is More Music from Braveheart? Someone should suffer for that. I know I did when I first listened to it. Could've been worse. Could've been More Music from Gladiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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