Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 In terms of content the only addition is the film version of the main title (which is hopefully not just sourced from the movie audio stem....) and the trailer music. The track listing is re-ordered compared to the Kritzerland edition, apparently to more accurately reflect Tiomkin's intentions. I wonder what that is based on, just the cue sheet he kept in his records or something? The big question is how improved the audio may or may not be. Either way, I'll be ordering at 3pm eastern this afternoon! Quote IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE: 75th ANNIVERSARY REMASTERED LIMITED EDITION LLLCD 1575 Music by Dimitri Tiomkin Limited Edition of 2000 Units RETAIL PRICE: $21.98 STARTS SHIPPING NOV 16 Order yours starting Nov 16 at 12 noon (pst) at www.lalalandrecords.com La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures proudly present a limited edition, remastered 75th anniversary CD release of renowned composer Dimitri Tiomkin’s (MEET JOHN DOE, GIANT, WILD IS THE WIND) original motion picture score to the 1946 Holiday classic IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed and Lionel Barrymore, and directed by Frank Capra. Arguably the most famous and most seen American holiday film of all time features an equally classic score from Dimitri Tiomkin, one of cinema’s pioneering composer giants. An expert meld of romance, emotion, reflection, brooding darkness and playful joviality, the maestro’s legendary score returns on CD, remastered, and in time to mark the film’s 75th Anniversary. Produced by Dan Goldwasser, restored and mastered by Chris Malone, and featuring art design by Goldwasser and new, in-depth liner notes by writer Frank K. DeWald, this special limited edition release of 2000 units features track sequencing that more accurately reflects Tiomkin’s original intensions. The presentation also includes the film version of the “Main Title” and music from the film’s trailer. TRACK LISTING: 1. Main Title / Heaven 3:46 2. Ski Run 1:31 3. Death Telegram 1:59 4. Gower's Deliverance 2:03 5. George And Dad 1:45 6. Father's Death 0:30 7. Love Sequence 2:12 8. Dilemma 0:37 9. Bank Crisis 0:55 10. Wedding Cigars 0:41 11. George Lassoes Stork 2:03 12. This Is The Army, Mr. Jones / Dankgebet 2:20 13. Uncle Billy's Blunder 1:15 14. Search For Money 2:01 15. Potter's Threat 0:50 16. Clarence's Arrival 2:20 17. George Is Unborn 2:24 18. Haunted House (With Chorus) 2:40 19. Pottersville Cemetery 1:14 20. Wrong Mary Hatch / The Prayer 2:05 21. It's A Wonderful Life 3:24 22. Auld Lang Syne / End Title 0:53 BONUS TRACKS 23. It's A Wonderful Life (Vocal) 3:52 24. Main Title (Film Version) 1:16 25. Father's Death (Alternate) 0:21 26. Wedding March 0:51 27. Big Band 0:20 28. Haunted House (Alternate) 2:40 29. Pottersville Cemetery (Alternate – Without Chorus) 1:19 30. Auld Lang Syne (Alternate) 0:30 31. Trailer Music 1:03 TOTAL DISC TIME 51:43 Once and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,553 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 This was a MAJOR hole in my "filmography" until I finally saw it some 5-6 years ago. I was not blown away with it or anything, but I respect the fact that it's a US holiday stalwart. While I'm sure this new release is fine, how's the rerecording situation on this? Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2021 It's my favorite movie, period. The David Newman re-recording is good but I'm not as big a fan as some are. While it's obviously much better audio quality than the original film recordings, I find the performances just don't compare: Tiomkin's just have more emotion and energy. Maybe that's because I've seen the film so many times though. https://www.discogs.com/master/546047-David-Newman-Dimitri-Tiomkin-Richard-Addinsell-Cyril-J-Mockridge-Sundance-Film-Music-Series-Vol1 Once, Yavar Moradi and Thor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,553 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I can understand that, if you've grown up with it and have seen it many times and it's your favourite movie and all that. For me, though, without that connection, that Newman suite looks very interesting. Thanks for the tip! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 It was a top ten favourite of mine for a while when I was a teenager. I remember buying it on video, not having seen it before, when Barry Norman included it in his book 100 Best Films of the Century. I don't have quite the same tolerance for its degree of sentimentality nowadays, so I don't think it will be in my own imaginary 100 Best Films book. 24 minutes ago, Thor said: This was a MAJOR hole in my "filmography" ... Speaking of that, how's your Powell and Pressburger homework coming along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,553 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: Speaking of that, how's your Powell and Pressburger homework coming along? Gosh, still on the to see list. If people can just stop making new movies for a week or two, I can catch up with the backlog. Glóin the Dark and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: Speaking of that, how's your Powell and Pressburger homework coming along? Aha! Funny you mention it, as they've been on my list for a while now and I've only just recently got around to ticking off a few (The Red Shoes, A Matter of Life and Death, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Black Narcissus, and The Small Back Room, in that order). Some of the greatest storytellers of all time, and I'm not even done going through their work! Next up: A Canterbury Tale and I Know Where I'm Going. To stay on topic with the thread, I had never actually seen It's A Wonderful Life in full until last year, believe it or not. It's one of those ones that you always catch pieces of on television during the holidays, so I guess that might explain the delay. Tiomkin is also one of my favourite composers from this era so I should probably give this score a proper listen in the coming weeks. Glóin the Dark and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: I don't have quite the same tolerance for its degree of sentimentality I am and always have been head over heels for the Capra touch. He just makes me feel so good about other people, even if only for the runtime of the movie before it ends and my curmudgeonly scowl returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I generally prefer the drier Lubitsch, Hawks or Sturges touch(es). Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 I like all those too! Lubitsch especially. I truly love every movie of his I've seen (which is almost of his sound films, only a few I haven't seen yet). But not surprisingly my favorite Lubitsch movie is probably his most sentimental that also happens to star James Stewart.... Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Haha - yeah, that's probably my least favourite. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,553 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 No mention of Sirk -- the master of melodrama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I find Sirk's style somewhat difficult to get along with at the surface level, but worth the effort because there's valuable (even ingenious) stuff buried just underneath it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,112 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Is this score better than that of It's an OK Life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 Took you all day to think of that one, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,112 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Ah, that curmudgeonly scowl has returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 Comparing the samples with my own rip of the Kritzerland, I would say that the difference is noticeable if you're paying very close attention, there is more depth and definition to this LLL remaster in the lower end especially, but I would say the difference is not appreciable enough to double dip if you're not a committed diehard like myself. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 It's a Fair-to-Middling Life - the Mike Leigh remake. 28 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: diehard Now there's an idea! From a Bedford Falls / Nakatomi mashup, can we concoct the ultimate Christmas film? "Unfortunately your Uncle Billy did not see it this way, so he won't be joining us for the rest of his life." Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 I decided to be economical and I'm actually gonna wait until Black Friday to see what's announced before ordering this. Why pay for shipping twice in a month? 5 hours ago, Glóin the Dark said: Haha - yeah, that's probably my least favourite. Gloin you're just a warped, frustrated old man! Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,553 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Glóin the Dark said: I find Sirk's style somewhat difficult to get along with at the surface level, but worth the effort because there's valuable (even ingenious) stuff buried just underneath it. As always, form is content. And with Sirk, there's a lot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,227 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 9:51 PM, Thor said: ...form is content. Yeah, but a viewer's reaction to any film is inevitably influenced at the outset by more superficial aspects of the style and its relation to their personal taste. Sirk, like Capra, is a director whose work I sometimes find difficult to swallow. Hitchcock, too, while I'm being heretical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 At the risk of skirting forum rules, what's interesting to me about Capra is that for decades, conservatives have watched his movies and thought it was obvious that he had a conservative message AND leftists have watched them and thought it was obvious that he had a socialist message! Both respond to his elevation and love of "the common man" which is ultimately apolitical IMO. Is it any wonder I love both Capra and Copland bruce marshall, A. A. Ron and blondheim 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I'm very excited for this release. Have we figured out why the track order changed a little and why yet? I'm very curious if this is Tiomkin's order and how they know vs. the Kritzerland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, blondheim said: I'm very excited for this release. Have we figured out why the track order changed a little and why yet? I'm very curious if this is Tiomkin's order and how they know vs. the Kritzerland Only educated guesses. Unless one of the people who worked on it posts about it on FSM, we'll probably have to wait until someone has the liner notes. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, blondheim said: I'm very excited for this release. Have we figured out why the track order changed a little and why yet? I'm very curious if this is Tiomkin's order and how they know vs. the Kritzerland Kritzerland , to their credit, try to present a curated listening experience. They will join cues on scores like DTESS, unlike VS who just put every cue on the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Only educated guesses. Unless one of the people who worked on it posts about it on FSM, we'll probably have to wait until someone has the liner notes. Can't wait for those liner notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 Ordered this alongside Fiddler! blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Booklet preview: https://warmbutter.com/albums/its-a-wonderful-life/ blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 Beautimus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 This is a very beautiful release. I love the artwork. I really hope I can afford to get both this and Fiddler this holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,609 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I would definitely prioritize Anne Frank over this, personally. But will probably get all three! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Martin B. 16 Posted December 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just finished listening to this release and I'd say it does sound slightly better than the Kritzerland. However after initially listening to the sound quality to see if I thought it was better, I quickly ended up just getting carried away by the wonderful music. Great release and the artwork looks great in person - a version of the Kritzerland cover is on the back of the booklet. Great notes as well. Thanks LLL Yavar Moradi, Once and Disco Stu 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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