Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Why was Palpatine Instructs Anakin changed? As it was was it was like it was in the film, and sounded great. Why was the beginning cut out of the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 As it was was it was like it was in the filmHuh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Wow, I must've been tired when I typed that because I didn't even catch that. I meant to say that, as it was listed, that's how it appeared in the film to my recollection, and it sounded great. Why was it changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I checked the film last night, and that bit is definitely from "Palpatine's Seduction". (The fact that the BF2 clip matches up with the film confirms it.) I didn't check "Palpatine Instructs Anakin", but it must be a similar piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Any news on those files that Jim Ware found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I think I've recorded Yoda Strikes Back.Plus,.there was a bunch of percussive cues on Felucia which seem to go in the final AotC duelsK.M.Who hasn't studied these cues very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamsid 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Goodbye old friend and going to udapau files quality is a bt scratchy, any chance we can get a cleaner recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 i have been bussy these last days.What and How is called the new BFII music?What things are usable from the DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Goodbye old friend and going to udapau files quality is a bt scratchy, any chance we can get a cleaner recordingWell,if anyone can get a better recording,great.So far none of the BF 2 files are perfect.I think these files aren't exactly super hi fi.Like I said,I tried several settings and this is the best it will come out.I hear faint noise in the game itself so it's not in the recording process itself.If you boost the volume to match the c.d.,then you get amplified noise too.Maybe recording directly from a line out from the X-BOX version might have better sound.Just a thought.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 i have been bussy these last days.What and How is called the new BFII music?What things are usable from the DVD?Goodbye Old Friend and Going to Utapauso far usable from the DVD:Plan for the Twins,ripped from German release,minus the Droid Wipe partPadme's Funeral and A Home For The Twins,Skylark rip.Personally I made a shortened version to remove the TIE fighter and crowd noises.I Am The Senate,rip from German release,about 20 seconds when Mace enters Palpatine's office and confronts him.None ofl the German DVD rips have dialogue echoes.k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Fecking hell...Now I gotta buy a German Import DVD !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I'll make sure the needed files reach the ftp. Vosk has them,he should send them to Cerrabore.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm redoing my complete score and deciding whether to make it a true Film Version thing, or whether I should leave out nasty edits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Personally, I'm recording it as complete as possible, but leaving out nasty edits. Your first attempt was great, sound effects and all, and I gobbled it up, but now that we're getting enough additional music to make additional complete (or near complete) tracks, why bother with the SFX, you know? So, reading the past efw pages, I'm not exactly sure what's going on? Do we have any new music or not? What can we expect from Cerrabore, or what have we already found that we didn't have since we got I Am the Senate and Count Dooku's Entrance? I read the stuff about Goodbye Old Friend, but odn't really understand. Do we have the full force theme and complete cue now? What exactly are we waiting on Cerrabore for, just checking for new music, or is there new music we've found that we're waiting for him to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 t So, reading the past efw pages, I'm not exactly sure what's going on? Do we have any new music or not? What can we expect from Cerrabore, or what have we already found that we didn't have since we got I Am the Senate and Count Dooku's Entrance? I read the stuff about Goodbye Old Friend, but odn't really understand. Do we have the full force theme and complete cue now? What exactly are we waiting on Cerrabore for, just checking for new music, or is there new music we've found that we're waiting for him to get?It's a team effort!Cerrabore is sort of counted on to upload the best sources cues on the ftp.I send out what I find in the game to Vosk..right now we have :1)OST2)Game Cues:Yes,Goodbye Old Friend (Full Force theme)is complete now,you have to check the dates on the ftp files(Going to Utapau is also complete with the missing Force theme segment)These are the 2 cues we got since Dooku's Entrance3))DVD rips:For the otherwise non available Dialogue cues such as Revisiting Padme,Be Carefull of Your Friend,It Can't Be pt 1,News of the Attack pt 2,Palpatine's Big Pitch,Plan for the Twins and a few others,the German rip is best,because there's no dialogue echos.That should be available eventually.4)LordSkylark rip:I've listened to Padme's Funeral and A Home for the Twins and there excellent with minor sound effects.k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Aside from minor wizzing sounds (I think a couple of ships passing, and very quiet), it sounds like the section of Anakin's Dream is clean. I didn't hear any dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Padme's Visit has almost no voice echoes,even in the US release.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 Why was Palpatine Instructs Anakin changed? As it was was it was like it was in the film, and sounded great. Why was the beginning cut out of the list?John Takis proved that the clip of the Emperor's theme actually belongs in "Palpatine's Seduction." The Emperor's theme from "Palpatine Instructs Anakin" is thus not released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 It's a team effort!Cerrabore is sort of counted on to upload the best sources cues on the ftp.I send out what I find in the game to Vosk.. Oh, please don't misunderstand me. I realize it's definitely a team effort. I was curious as to what we already had, or specific things that we were waiting on, since Cerrabore and Skylark have access to putting the files up on the ftp. I realize many people are invovled with getting these things out, including yourself, and appreciate it. I'm just trying to get straight the happenings since BF2 came out.Ah, so what we thought was Palpatine Instructs Anakin (at least the beginning part) is just moved to a different track, not gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 There's something wrong with the end of Padme's Funeral in the film,it's "warbly".I tought it was an artifact of Sk lark's rip but it's not.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 It was mentioned that if someone could record the music directly with a line out from the X-Box it might be better.I havn't yet bought BFII, but that's how I recorded the music from the demo disk back a few weeks ago--"Get 'em R2"... If it would make it easier and sound better, I can go get the game and do the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm redoing my complete score and deciding whether to make it a true Film Version thing, or whether I should leave out nasty edits...Personally, I would (and will) do a Version As Intended By Williams, no reason to include nasty edits or tracked material... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 It was mentioned that if someone could record the music directly with a line out from the X-Box it might be better.I havn't yet bought BFII, but that's how I recorded the music from the demo disk back a few weeks ago--"Get 'em R2"... If it would make it easier and sound better, I can go get the game and do the same...Yes,that would be great.Get Em R2 sounds very good.and there might be some other extra cues in the X-box version.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 weee... okOther question... has anyone solved what I call the "stupid fade" at about 4:00 into "Boys go to Battle." I've been working on my edit--based on the film--and I can't get that STUPID fade right because the way it is in the film, the horn is playing a high D and in the recording on the cd it's playing a G# and they don't fade right and the only way I could achieve it was through use of some DVD material which of course has some enguine noise...Anyone else figure out how to fix this? Also, if this is possible, maybe that segment could be ripped from the dvd? It's from right before Anakin says "They're comming around"... just like...10 seconds worth would totally do it...EDIT: Actually... only do this if you have the chance or want to... nevermind it really... I've worked it out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Wait!I think I've solved the static issue in the files.I'm going to re-record Going to Utapau and Goodbye Old Friend.I *think* it was cause by my headphone wire dangling where it shouldn't and causing interferanceI doest shall report later,K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm redoing my complete score and deciding whether to make it a true Film Version thing, or whether I should leave out nasty edits...Leave out the nasty edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord89 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm going to re-record Going to Utapau and Goodbye Old FriendIf you can, continue recording "Goodbye Old Friend" (if I recall correctly, the previous recording with "The Senate" before "Goodbye Old Friend" continued for some other notes...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Good news,I'm getting much better quality recordings now.Before I was setting my recording to "What U Hear",now I set it to WAVE.Sounds a lot better.I think I was picking up some unwanted noises before.I'll send them to Cerrabore again later.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 The music has been a great help and I think I am going to dabble little with music editing now The unreleased cues (even partial cues) sound wonderful and I have a whole new respect for the music of ROTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Question - are the finished/complete/edited cues going to be put up on the FTP eventually? I'd love to hear the opening space battle in its entirety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 John Takis proved that the clip of the Emperor's theme actually belongs in "Palpatine's Seduction." The Emperor's theme from "Palpatine Instructs Anakin" is thus not released.I've also come to believe that the quote of the Emperor's Theme immediately after Vader's "knighting" *might* be tracked. It sounds too suspiciously like a quote later in the film ... and some splicing (and it's very well-done, if that's what it is) could account for the chunk of music we have on the soundtrack album that does not appear in the film.Furthermore, I have studied "I Am The Senate" VERY carefully. I have determined that the mp3 file should simply play from 0:40-end without editing or interruption. Listen carefully to the DVD channels, and you will hear how oddly the Force Theme quote is faded in at the beginning of that scene, with the echo of a drum hit. It sounds tracked -- as I believe it is. And there is a very awkward edit in the film that points to the cue being chopped up (remember, this scene was heavily rewritten and partially refilmed late in the game). If you begin the cue AFTER the presumed tracked Force Theme passage, the music plays continuously to the point where 0:40 on the mp3 comes in. The track can then be allowed to play through, all awkward editing or tracking avoided. Only the final note, with some other cue beginning before fading out, needs to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'd suggest getting Goldwave and editing them yourself because I doubt they're going to put any completed cues up on the ftp and distribute them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'd suggest getting Goldwave and editing them yourself because I doubt they're going to put any completed cues up on the ftp and distribute them.This is true. Cerra said earlier that complete edited files will not be put on the server. So bondo you have to edit your own files just like everyone else. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord89 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 you will hear how oddly the Force Theme quote is faded in at the beginning of that scene, with the echo of a drum hit. It sounds tracked -- as I believe it is.After listening carefully to the track n. 19 of the DVD Rip on the ftp (titled "I Am the Senate"), I have begun wondering if ALL the cue was re-edited for the film. Just listen to 1.20-1.37, for example: in the mp3 we got from "Trials of Obi-Wan" it's featured just before the final orchestra blows end the cue (yes, this extract has additional percussion or it's an alternate take, but it's there). In the DVD Rip you CAN hear the first of the blows at 1.37... but the duel is still going on. Also, other edit are evident in the same DVD track at 0.06, 1.20 and probably at 1.56... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord89 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 P.S.: giving the the fact that skylark has done a wonderful job in ripping the DVD, I'm led to assume that these edits are not HIS fault. Also, consider that all those bad edits are covered in the movie with SFX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord89 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 A question: did John Williams ever use the FULL Emperor's Theme (as heard in the RotJ score) in any prequel score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Skylarks' DVD rip Dueling With Grievous track is SFX and dialogue free for the most part. The only parts that I've caught (and I got too excited so I stopped listening to maybe the last third) that have any noise are parts with music we already have. The only problem is the DVD rip quality doesn't match up with the other files. I hadn't seen anyone else mention this before, so I thought I would.EDIT: As for I am the Senate, I always assumed it was tracked and edited because the cue in the film is MUCH longer than the cue we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 There are two sequences though for "I Am The Senate" that are not released. I can tell trust me lol. The piece where Palpatine leap rolls towards Mace and the other Jedi then right after Anakin lands at Palpatine's office and Mace and Palpatine are still fighting up to the point just after they break the glass to Palpatine's office window then the rest of it is tracked until the big horns come blaring in towards the end of the cue.Though the two pieces may sound the same but they are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 In case anyone is interested, here's how a film edit of Obi-Wan Fares Droids/Drawing Swords/Grievous Attacks/Fighting With Grievous would go...well, at least the beginning. I haven't finished it.GAL mus_wookiee_quest_fail allGAL mus_avatar_platform_final 0:00-0:06SDVD (Skylark's DVD) 16 - Dueling With Grievous :10-1:10.5OST 1 1:16.5-1:26.5Unreleased "Reinforcements Arrive"I just edited it together, but the sound quality between the DVD rip is just too bad, even when you boost the volume, when compared to the rest of the track.EDIT: I guess I should add that I'm trying to find a good ending to Rolling With Grievous (OST 5 segment), but I can't edit one. Has anyone else been successful in making a better sounding end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 This is true. Cerra said earlier that complete edited files will not be put on the server. So bondo you have to edit your own files just like everyone else. Sorry.Bah, don't have the time. I'll just wait for the official release then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiden 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 You guys keep mentioning the FTP, but you never mention the link... is it intended only for specific people? (I'm sorry, I've been really excited about the Battlefront II collection of additional music, hence why I joined the forum. I have been trying to extract it myself, but if it all is being uploaded to an FTP...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 The reason why the link is not given can be found in one of the earlier pages of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 FTP links are not given out in this thread. PM Cerrabore or LordSkylarkP.S.: Love that avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 0:40-end without editing or interruption. Yes,that's what I did.Thanks.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 In case anyone is interested, here's how a film edit of Obi-Wan Fares Droids/Drawing Swords/Grievous Attacks/Fighting With Grievous would go...well, at least the beginning. I haven't finished it.GAL mus_wookiee_quest_fail allGAL mus_avatar_platform_final 0:00-0:06SDVD (Skylark's DVD) 16 - Dueling With Grievous :10-1:10.5OST 1 1:16.5-1:26.5Unreleased "Reinforcements Arrive"I just edited it together, but the sound quality between the DVD rip is just too bad, even when you boost the volume, when compared to the rest of the track.EDIT: I guess I should add that I'm trying to find a good ending to Rolling With Grievous (OST 5 segment), but I can't edit one. Has anyone else been successful in making a better sounding end?That's too complicated for me.That's the only part of the score (Grevious action material)I'm not interested in breaking up in detail because in the end it sounds about the sameK.M.Who has left the abum tracks General Grevious and Grevious and the Droids unaltered., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 5, 2005 Author Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hey all, I've been busy going through the full Battlefront 2 today. I can't upload most of the files until tomorrow, but for now you can have fun with "departing_intro.mp3" and "arrival_kamino_intro.mp3." There was really more AotC material than RotS this time around. Here's what I found:RotS:- Film versions of "Boys into Battle" and "Enter Lord Vader" (drums, drums, DRUMS)- It Can't Be (partially extended as KM mentioned)- Totally unknown music (uses the motif from "Palpatine's Seduction")- Get 'Em R-2! (doesn't cut off like the previous recording, but there's really nothing else to it)- Unreleased "Elevator Scene" music (only ten seconds or so)- "I Am the Senate" and "Count Dooku's Entrance" (same as in Galaxies, but higher quality)AotC:- Film version of end of "Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant" (with Separatist theme)- Part of "Emergency Powers" cue with tracked TPM music proceding it- "Confrontation with Count Dooku" large section- "Yoda Strikes Back" several parts- Short percussion bit (probably from "The Chase Through Coruscant")TPM:- A few bits in higher quality- Alternate version of "Take To Your Ships" with some different instrumentationFurthermore, I have studied "I Am The Senate" VERY carefully. I have determined that the mp3 file should simply play from 0:40-end without editing or interruption. Listen carefully to the DVD channels, and you will hear how oddly the Force Theme quote is faded in at the beginning of that scene, with the echo of a drum hit. It sounds tracked -- as I believe it is. And there is a very awkward edit in the film that points to the cue being chopped up (remember, this scene was heavily rewritten and partially refilmed late in the game). If you begin the cue AFTER the presumed tracked Force Theme passage, the music plays continuously to the point where 0:40 on the mp3 comes in. The track can then be allowed to play through, all awkward editing or tracking avoided. Only the final note, with some other cue beginning before fading out, needs to be replaced.Not sure what you are saying. Is it possible to synch the MP3 with the film, starting at 0:40, and if so at what point? Also, you have to factor in the Emperor's theme and the tracking of "Drawing Swords" during the beginning of the confrontation. It fits like a glove if you leave the cue beginning with the Force theme as in the film (dropping off after the Emperor's theme ends because the game file apparently cuts to later in the cue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 The BF2 file of I am the Senate is missing several portions compared to the Galaxies one.Those AotC transitionnal fanfares are cool,but there's not much to do with them except wedge them in between album tracks.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 If we are getting the same I am the Senate cue in both games...COuld this be the original OST cue? Its edited, yes, but also are almost all the cues in the CD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hey all, I've been busy going through the full Battlefront 2 today. I can't upload most of the files until tomorrow, but for now you can have fun with "departing_intro.mp3" and "arrival_kamino_intro.mp3." There was really more AotC material than RotS this time around. Here's what I found:RotS:- Film versions of "Boys into Battle" and "Enter Lord Vader" (drums, drums, DRUMS)- It Can't Be (partially extended as KM mentioned)- Totally unknown music (uses the motif from "Palpatine's Seduction")- Get 'Em R-2! (doesn't cut off like the previous recording, but there's really nothing else to it)- Unreleased "Elevator Scene" music (only ten seconds or so)- "I Am the Senate" and "Count Dooku's Entrance" (same as in Galaxies, but higher quality)AotC:- Film version of end of "Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant" (with Separatist theme)- Part of "Emergency Powers" cue with tracked TPM music proceding it- "Confrontation with Count Dooku" large section- "Yoda Strikes Back" several parts- Short percussion bit (probably from "The Chase Through Coruscant") WOW that is MOST excellent news!I'm glad you got the game Cerra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 i'll try (i dont know DVD ripping - i'll check stefan's thread) to see if the spanish dubb is as good as the German one echo wise.I must put them a 4% slower, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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