stuttersteps 1 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Not sure if this subject has been broached already, but I haven't come across it here so thought I'd bring it up.Read this interesting bit of info in the Trivia section for Revenge of the Sith on IMDB:The final scene on Tatooine, where Obi-Wan Kenobi delivers the infant Luke to his aunt and uncle, is often referred to as the "Harry Potter scene". Composer John Williams included a small 11-tone musical cue in the scene reminiscent of his score for _Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone (2001)_ . It can be heard when Obi-Wan arrives at Owen and Beru's house.I never noticed it myself. Going back for a listen, it still wasn't readily apparent to me.Can anyone chime in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 It's just because it's a chelesta, people are stupid.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRuleOfThirds 0 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 It's not even a chelesta. It's a celesta. No h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I don't hear it either. I even went back and listened to "The Arrival of Baby Harry," and the only similarity I hear is the use of celeste in octaves. The celeste in ROTS seems to be filling a couple bars in the right key and mood before the Force theme horn solo comes in - it doesn't contain any major thematic material, but is just a nice little arpeggiated thing on a celeste. The celeste in "Arrival" begins the track with the melody, also in octaves, but that goes on to be the "theme" for that track. So, I add my vote that this is not a nod to HPSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 The only thing I hear that's close to HP is the little bit used for the buzz driods in the Battle of Corscant, kind of similar to the Golden Snitch music in The Quidditch Match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 One of the similarities i have found between ROTS and Harry Potter is half way through Genreal Grevious, when the music gets louder and Williams adds in the tamberine is similar to a section in The Spiders track from Chamber of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 More IMDB rubbish. Like this in the Jurassic Park section: At the very end of the film when it says A Steven Spielberg Film you hear the five notes from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) slightly modified.:roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,764 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 It's only because the raptor motif somewhat resembles the CE3K theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Exactly. It's not even 5 notes. Gits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Anymore? I'm roaring from the last two. LOLJustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I hate not being able to provide more examples right now, but as a regular user of the IMDB trivia section, they seem to have a certain obsession with John Williams quoting other films' themes just for the similarity between the scenes. I think they say that in Catch Me If You Can, he quotes Silvestri's Forrest Gump. You know, Tom Hanks staring at the flying bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 In ROTS, the only parallel to Harry Potter can be found in Anakin Vs Obi- Wan, when the strings play that waltz- like melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 In ROTS, the only parallel to Harry Potter can be found in Anakin Vs Obi- Wan, when the strings play that waltz- like melody.What about the theme that plays for General Greivous?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,366 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Somewhere during The Mission (Amazing Stories) you can hear the blueprint of Hook (Prologue fanfare). Good luck with finding it.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 It's not Harry Potter quoted in RotS, of course. It's just one of Williams' universal leitmotifs: A twinkling celesta theme for a baby scene, just like the his patriottic horn solos for heroic scenes e.g. in Patriot, Lost World (when rescued by the enemy), HP:SS (Ron's speech), Amistad, American Journey, and just like his use of rattles and busy (pizzicato) strings for insect and weed scenes (all three Indy movies, The Devil's Snare, On the Coveyor Belt), just to name some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 strings for insect and weed scenes.Whhhoooaaahhh....dude, that is like totally cool man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Ah, the sight. The first time in months that a post has gotten a smile out of me.Stefancos, are you really... after all.... Him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 You need weed to make you smile?Stoner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 It's like... the system is poorly constructed, man... I mean, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I see you like to smoke 'onkruid'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Onkruid vergaat niet.Or so the saying goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I see you like to smoke 'onkruid'?I don't what that is, but I'll give it a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Ok, people, after listening accurately to track 14 (I believe it is this track on the album) of RotS, there is indeed the exact Harry Potter theme, at 0:51. It goes like:Bm - down to F - down to D - down to A - up to F - down to D.It's also on celesta, and in the same rhythm (6/8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 It's an exact six or seven notes of the theme. :roll: ~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Fett 0 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 At the begining of Empire Strikes Back, the composer plays music similar to the Star Wars song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWfangirl1992 18 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I either spent WAY to much time listening to ROTS or I'm losing it, but anyway I noticed some similarites btw. that and the new HP soundtrack. Is Doyle trying to keep the John Williams sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 ...Harry Potter is a John Williams sound. So to make a score for it... I would hope he would... unless he were crazy lol (jk) or better than John Williams and thought he could make a completely unique score --but I don't think the movie called for that--and the HP score for the new movie is more along the lines of John Williams in the late 80's early 90's... his sound is completely different now (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 It's an exact six or seven notes of the theme. :roll: ~SturgisDid you check actually? Six or seven notes can be a whole theme indeed, and surely the essence of it. Read my similar sceptical remark earlier in this thread. I just admit that I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Are you saying it was intentional?~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Actually it sounds more like the Emperor's Theme to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You people are really reaching on this one.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I would have to agree. I haven't a clue how you hear the Potter theme there, or any theme for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 While we're on the subject, in the track "Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious" at 1:58, John Williams actually quotes Double Trouble. I thought that was very . . . well, spooky, which fits because Grievous is sort of a spooky guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 But isn't that part of the track a cue from later in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,764 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I've noticed that before and I think it's more of a quotation of the flying theme from Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I bet Williams would laugh his arse off if he could read this thread.Anyway, last night I was watching ROTS with my headphones on, and I've noticed how often these dull and powerless Bass Drum strokes (someone already compained about those) appeared throughout the score, and sometimes not even in syn with the original music! In Anakin vs Obi- Wan for instance, when Yoda and Palpatine ascend into the senate, and we hear this waltz- like part of Battle Of The Heroes, those stupid editores just layered the Bass Drum on top of the cue without syncing it to the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Yeah I noticed that as well. Ben Burtt's influence strikes again???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I would have to agree. I haven't a clue how you hear the Potter theme there, or any theme for that matter.It's not the entire theme, but the essence, the second period of Harry's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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