codanai 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 My brother recently said to me something to the effect of, "Come on, Jacob, you know that Williams will always mainly be remembered for Star Wars--maybe also for some of his other scores--but, among popular culture, Star Wars will mainly be it."It's always really hard to tell with any composer though. Did Haydn know people would mainly recognize his Surprise Symphony? Did Bach know that people would remember his minuets, his fugues, and concertos? Did Mozart know that, hundreds of years after his death, people all over the world would be using a theme from one of his string quartets as the "Happy Birthday" song? And was all of that music really the most popular around the era it was written?My point is, as far as my knowledge of musical history goes, Williams could be greatly remembered for his Bassoon Concerto or his Jubilee 350, or something we don't necessarily think of as his most famous work. I think Star Wars will always be greatly remembered for its music, but the populous may find interest in some theme of his that we don't think much of today.So what will Williams be remembered for?Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I will leave this to the judgement of postarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 he will be remembered as the great composer he really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Either Indiana Jones, or Phil's Theme from Heartbeeps.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 "Happy Birthday" is based on a Mozart piece? I had no idea.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I thought it was based on a John Williams piece..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I think it will be Star Wars or Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well, I just want to make sure that's true, because there's also a falsehood that Mozart wrote the tune for "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" and he didn't.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 More than likely it will be Star Wars . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 He will be rememebered for lots of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 More than likely it will be Star Wars .I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 For the majority of the people, Star Wars.For fans, Star Wars and a shitload of other supercool stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hopefully the new Superman movie will prompt a lot of the current teen base to research the old Williams score, seek it out, and enjoy the wonders of his music. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Star Wars.It's sad, but popular culture won't even know what a 'bassoon' or a 'concerto' is eventually.... The only realm for fame in orchestral music will be film score, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Williams will be remembered for either Back to the Future or The Legend of Zelda.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Williams will be remembered for either Back to the Future or The Legend of Zelda.~Sturgis :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Pop culture is going the way of the boy wizard.Hedwig's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Looks like the world will remember Yo Yo Ma composed Sayuri's Theme.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hopefully the new Superman movie will prompt a lot of the current teen base to research the old Williams score, seek it out, and enjoy the wonders of his music. TimMore likely they'll search out Ottman's album. Unless they release the album with hardly any snippets of the main theme (say, like Robocop) and point the guys to 'that 1978 score over there' Looks like the world will remember Yo Yo Ma composed Sayuri's Theme.K.M.I know someone who credited Perlman for Schindler's List (the whole bloody score at that!) in one of his music recommendations to a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 A lot of the problem with that is when a soloist is credited. People don't seem to understand that that is a performance thing and not a composer credit.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codanai 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yeah, just saw the Tonight Show, and I agree. It's Hollywood's old Star marketing system. What can you say? Film scoring's a humble business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony69 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 twinkle was a french theme before mozart played with it. he just wrote a set of piano variations on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Star Wars well before Jaws. People only remember the two note motif in Jaws, not who did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Star Wars well before Jaws. People only remember the two note motif in Jaws, not who did it.I´m afraid that is true. people will remember themes from Star Wars, Raiders and Jaws, but not the person who composed it, possibly not even the movie where it came from. Name John Williams doesn´t say anything to most people that I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Williams will be remembered for either Back to the Future or The Legend of Zelda.~Sturgis :cry:LOL this is great!I remember once I had an argument about someone who said to me 'Williams sounds all the same to me'I said ,' do you know much about him?'He said 'Sure, he wrote Jaws and got an Oscar for Dances With wolves. My favourite one is the Mission and he is also a great guitarist'I had to be held back by 20 guys I think a lot of people will remember Williams for Star Wars and Jaws but that doesn't mean they will be unaware that he is a great composer with tones of work behind him.Even the classical composers with endless works are known for one or two very famous works from the general public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 He said 'Sure, he wrote Jaws and got an Oscar for Dances With wolves. My favourite one is the Mission and he is also a great guitarist'"Sure, I love all of his western scores, expecially The Magnificent Seven and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, althought I have to admit that his best score was Star Trek - The Motion Picture. Too bad we don't have a proper release of his amazing Back to the Future Trilogy scores." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 He said 'Sure, he wrote Jaws and got an Oscar for Dances With wolves. My favourite one is the Mission and he is also a great guitarist'"Sure, I love all of his western scores, expecially The Magnificent Seven and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, althought I have to admit that his best score was Star Trek - The Motion Picture. Too bad we don't have a proper release of his amazing Back to the Future Trilogy scores." LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,045 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I said ,' do you know much about him?' He said 'Sure, he wrote Jaws and got an Oscar for Dances With wolves. My favourite one is the Mission and he is also a great guitarist' I had to be held back by 20 guys "Sure, I love all of his western scores, expecially The Magnificent Seven and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, althought I have to admit that his best score was Star Trek - The Motion Picture. Too bad we don't have a proper release of his amazing Back to the Future Trilogy scores."This thread keeps getting better and better! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth 0 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I did just run a search for John Williams in emule and Williams most available track was forrest gump theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Did you searched for Legend of Zelda too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 He'll be remembered for everything he's remembered for now: Star Wars, Indiana Jones, E.T., Jaws, Harry Potter etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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