Hlao-roo 389 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 For a spinoff with a $135M production budget, a $30M marketing budget, and a backing movie studio that hasn't seen a true success in four years, it leaves much to be desired.Well that's what they get for overspending. Seriously $87 million is pretty damn good for a spinoff, yeah I'm sure they were hoping for $100+, but the real key is staying power, which I think might be a problem. That used to define true blockbusters, staying power.Yeah, it's all about the opening weekend now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Seriously $87 million is pretty damn good for a spinoff, yeah I'm sure they were hoping for $100+, but the real key is staying power, which I think might be a problem.I agree...plus I think what will also hurt the sales is those who saw the workprint and decide it's not worth going to see again in theaters with finished effects. No I didn't download it, it's a movie I want to see as a finish product.Are there really so many people with a superfast connection speed who decided to download this? I bet not many people even bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Seriously $87 million is pretty damn good for a spinoff, yeah I'm sure they were hoping for $100+, but the real key is staying power, which I think might be a problem.I agree...plus I think what will also hurt the sales is those who saw the workprint and decide it's not worth going to see again in theaters with finished effects. No I didn't download it, it's a movie I want to see as a finish product.Are there really so many people with a superfast connection speed who decided to download this? I bet not many people even bothered.As an American now living in New ZealandYesYes there are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I thought Wolverine was better than the awful X-3I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I found the whole X-Men series to be a massive bore.But what do you expect when Brian Singer is in charge of a superhero film and you have Brett Ratner for a third film?It's a shame because I thought they were all well cast and had so much promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I think the first one was promising and worked character-wise, the second is one of the best superhero movies I've seen and got the balance just right, and the third is an absolute pile of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 That used to define true blockbusters, staying power.Yeah, it's all about the opening weekend now. Which makes a lot of sense from a marketing point of view. Staying power depends on the film's quality, which advertising people don't have any control on. Since you don't want to risk audiences not liking your film, you focus all your advertising might in the first weekend, no matter what the movie. If word-of-mouth makes the audiences buy tickets even on the second weekend, that's a welcome extra. But when you're going to spend millions on dollars on a promotion, you go for the safest bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 But what do you expect when Brian Singer is in charge of a superhero filmI don't know what do you expect?I was watching the first X-Men yesterday and it still holds up for the most part. "Toad struck by lightning" line aside, the script is especially good considering it was one of the first superhero films back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 BJM doesn't have Trek listed in its Thursday results. I guess that will be considered Friday?EDIT- According to this report, the Thursday take was $7 million.http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/week...-star-trek-65m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 $7 million for Thursday-night shows is actually quite good. My guess for the weekend is $65-70 million.This movie is going to make its real money in repeat and word-of-mouth business ... if it can stay in theatres long enough, that is. So many big movies are coming out in the next few weeks, it's going to start getting shoved off of theatres' big screens very quickly to make room for Terminator and Night at the Museum and Up and Land of the Lost and so forth. Still, I'm betting it ends up making about $200-225 million overall.The sequel will be the real Star Trek blockbuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Like Dark Knight was to Begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Like Dark Knight was to Begins.That's a very good comparison. This is a reboot after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Star Trek will make ~$90M for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's optimistic, I hope you're right. The betting money's on $65-75 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 My theater was packed. I don't know if it sold out though. A theater-wide applause was given when the film ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's optimistic, I hope you're right. The betting money's on $65-75 right now.You're too low. Trek score $3 mil more on Thursday than Iron Man did, which went on to earn $102 mil for the weekend. While I doubt the economic situation will allow that number, I'm pretty sure it will be close as the interest among Trekkies and non-Trekkies is extremely high as the favorable reviews keep coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's optimistic, I hope you're right. The betting money's on $65-75 right now.You're too low.That's not me, that's the industry.Friday's estimate is $24 million, so $31 mil counting Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 ...and that is right on target for $65-70 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 According to this article on msn Star Trek thus far has made $76.5 million on it's opening weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 BJM has it at $72.5. I don't know if that includes Thursday or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I doubt it, I think msn's article is a bit more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 This article clears it up. It's $72.5 for the weekend, $76.5 total including Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Wolverine dropped to $27 million. Hopefully Trek will have better legs, it deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Trek did something Wolverine didn't do: had a higher gross Saturday than Friday (and that's with all those Thrusday night shows). That's a very good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 But Wolverine truely sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Angels & Demons shouldn't bring it down too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yeah, I have the suspicion that Angels and Demons will not have all too high a box office revenue. I certainly will not contribute to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Da Vinci Code earned 217 domestically. I doubt Angels and Demons will be as high, but I imagine it'll get at least 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 What did The Da Vinci Code have to compete with, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dead Man's Chest, X-Men: The Last Stand, Superman Returns, Casino Royale, Mission Impossible III... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 Casino Royale was a November release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Bond is always November. indy4 made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Still, you've got a summer hit that got 423 million domestically plus a few other blockbusters, getting 217 is a pretty tricky feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 When Nick asked what it had to compete with, he meant in the same weekend, the week before, and the week after. If The Da Vinci Code opened with nothing else, and nothing big preceding it or following it, then it had little competition and that greatly factors into its box office revenue.Da Vinci opened on May 19th, Dead Man's Chest opened July 7th. The only movie you listed that could have taken revenue away from Da Vinci is X-Men 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Ah, I see. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Angels & Demons has to compete with Star Trek this weekend, and then Terminator Salvation and Night At The Museum the next weekend. It's definitely not going to make a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 the first Night at the Museum was a POS . I'm not even going to see this one even If I see everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yeah it wasn't very good, doesn't mean a shit load of kids aren't going to see it. The first one made so much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Well yeah, of course kids are going to see it! It has a statue saying "Firepowah"! What sane kid would not want to see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Kids don't care about quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Angels and Demons will make more money than Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Angels and Demons will make more money than Star Trek.Globally, perhaps. Domestically, definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Angels and Demons will make more money than Star Trek.Dan Brown is so 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Here's to a Star Trek sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 I think we'll be OK there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It can't come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 More evidence of Trek's legs: though Wolverine had the larger opening by a good $10 million, at the 7 day mark Trek has pulled $2 million ahead of Wolverine at the same time:http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/cha...=summer09vs.htmAnd as Mark mentioned, today's take should push this year's Star Trek ahead of IV as the highest grossing in the franchise's history. Not inflation adjusted, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Angels and Demons will make more money than Star Trek.Globally, perhaps. Domestically, definitely not.I was suprised to see that the box office trackers are predicting only $40 million for the opening weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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