Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Enough with the expansion talk already! What is your 5 most desired John Williams music that has had no release whatsoever (or at most, a theme or suite on some compilation). Bootlegs don't count.I'm not going to do a poll about it, as the choices are so many, but I've provided a list below that you can choose from (let me know if I've left out anything):FILMS:SILENT FILM - PIANO DUETA TIMELESS CALLTHE SUGARLAND EXPRESSPETE'N'TILLIETHE SCREAMING WOMANSTORIA DI UNA DONNADADDY'S GONE A-HUNTINGSERGEANT RYKERTHE PLAINSMANTHE RARE BREEDTHE KATHERINE REED STORYTHE KILLERSNIGHTMARE IN CHICAGOGIDGET GOES TO ROMETHE SECRET WAYSBECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNGI PASSED FOR WHITEDADDY-OTV SHOWS:List found here:http://www.jwfan.com...showtopic=21563CONCERT WORKS:PIANO SONATAWIND QUINTETSYMPHONY NO. 1ESPLANADE OVERTURE (even though it's basically "Meeting in Sicily")CELEBRATION FANFAREWE'RE LOOKING GOODFANFARE FOR MICHAEL DUKAKISFANFARE FOR TEN-YEARS-OLDFANFARE FOR FENWAYCONCERT FOR CLARINET AND ORCHESTRA (I won't count the horrible-sounding mp3 release)SEVEN FOR LUCKFOR SEJIISOUNDINGSCONCERTO FOR VIOLA AND ORCHESTRACONCERTO FOR OBOE AND ORCHESTRAYOUNG PERSON'S GUIDE TO THE CELLOQUARTET LA JOLLAPersonally, my list would look like this at the present time (there are some I want more, but that I have acquired in unofficial format, so the need is not so pressing):1. STORIA DI UNA DONNA2. SYMPHONY NO. 13. ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE4. THE RARE BREED (the existing suite shows how wonderful this score is)5. GIDGET GOES TO ROMESUGARLAND EXPRESS is an important score to get out (for the Spielberg connection), but not that interesting beyond the theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The Sugarland Express, that's it!I don't know any of the other scores you listed here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I vote for Sugarland Express as well.Oh, andFANFARE FOR TEN-YEAR-OLDSDude, it's "Fanfare For Ten-Years-Old", lol. It's not a celebration of children, its a celebration of 10 year anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 I vote for Sugarland Express as well.Oh, andFANFARE FOR TEN-YEAR-OLDSDude, it's "Fanfare For Ten-Years-Old", lol. It's not a celebration of children, its a celebration of 10 year anniversary.Right you are. I always keep mixing that up. It's music for a youth company, though, so not THAT far off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Here's my list of most wanted pieces (in good quality sound).E.T. Botanicus ThemeNBC Rodeo ThemeCelebration FanfareFanfare for Michael DukakisFanfare for Ten Years OldOlympic Bumpers based on Olympic Fanfare and ThemesGreat Performances in higher than 128k bitrateThere's some in your list we have in good quality "unofficial" releases. Sorry but I count them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 NBC Rodeo Theme?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 There's some in your list we have in good quality "unofficial" releases. Sorry but I count themI know. But nothing beats a fullfledged official release!I've never heard of that Rodeo theme, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Zero. I am now content with the amount of John Williams in my collection and/or for sale. In fact, I probably have too much and need to start thinning the herd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Zero. I am now content with the amount of John Williams in my collection and/or for sale. In fact, I probably have too much and need to start thinning the herd.I might do that at some point in time too. But first, I need to thin out the rest of my physical collection. And that's a LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I would have many of them of course, as I want to hear everything that JW composed However, a few of the titles/works mentioned are quite impossible to get out, as they're nowhere to be found. Very early concert works like the Piano Sonata or the Wind Quintet are very unlikely, as probably they only exist in Williams' own library. We also know that Williams himself retired the First Symphony from his catalogue, so it's quite unlikely anyone will record it until he's around (unless he plans to revise it in the future).I'd really love to have proper official recordings of his concerti for Clarinet, Oboe and Viola, no doubt. And I'd really love if someone would record the gorgeous Seven for Luck song cycle one day.As for film and TV scores, I do really hope most of them will be released at some point. One of my dreams would be a boxset with a collection of selected television scores for anthology series like Alcoa Premiere Theatre and Kraft Suspense Theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 As for film and TV scores, I do really hope most of them will be released at some point. One of my dreams would be a boxset with a collection of selected television scores for anthology series like Alcoa Premiere Theatre and Kraft Suspense Theatre.Indeed. The mind boggles at the thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 SUGARLAND. Honestly, I know very little about the others, but I very much enjoy the footwarmer of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 That's the score I care the least is ever released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Indeed. I listened to half the footwarmer and don't care about the rest, because it's just the same harmonica melody over and over again. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The one track of Sugarland that we have on the SWC CD is pretty great, IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Indeed. I listened to half the footwarmer and don't care about the rest, because it's just the same harmonica melody over and over again. Yawn.Just like EMPIRE is just the Imperial March over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Exactly. And The Motion Picture is just the Enterprise Theme, over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 no guys its not the same.still, i want this score release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'd probably want "TSE" most of all.Have either "Essay For Strings", or "Seven For Luck" ever been released? Long ago I read in Starlog that there was an unreleased "Cantina band 3"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'd probably want "TSE" most of all.Have either "Essay For Strings", or "Seven For Luck" ever been released?Long ago I read in Starlog that there was an unreleased "Cantina band 3"..."Essay for Strings" has been released (twice). "Seven for Luck" has no official release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 E.T. Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Sugarland ExpressSymphony No. 1Quartet La JollaDaddy-OPiano Sonata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Story of a Woman....and then everything else. But most of the rest I either have, or have some of, that I'm satisfied enough with in its current form, *or* I've never heard a note of and desire only based on what I've read.I know Story of a Woman has a killer theme, and I want to hear more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I would have many of them of course, as I want to hear everything that JW composed As for film and TV scores, I do really hope most of them will be released at some point. One of my dreams would be a boxset with a collection of selected television scores for anthology series like Alcoa Premiere Theatre and Kraft Suspense Theatre. (Y) (Y) (Y) (Y)I watched a ton of Gilligand's Island growing up so I'd love to have some of that music released. I don't know any of those early films, so any of them would peak my interest. It's always awesome to hear some Williams that I'm 100% unfamiliar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I just stumbled across this, I believe it was written around the year 2000. I'd always been curious about this, I remember it being reported at the time it was composed and performed but then it seemed to drop off the radar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 Yup, I've added it to the list. It totally slipped my mind, that silent movie thingie. But I remember it now that you mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Cool, first time I ever hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 I also forgot to include FOR SEJII. Added now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I'd vote for Sugarland Express, Symphony No. 1 and concertos for clarinet, oboe and viola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 Hmmm....seems like it IS spelled 'Fanfare for TEN-YEAR-OLDS" after all, not "Ten-Years-Old" -- in other words a fanfare for the kids in the Young Charleston Theater Company, not the company's 10-year anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Sugarland, of course! It's the only Spielberg/Williams collaboration not released yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Thor, you have to add the Fenway Park fanfareI just stumbled across this, I believe it was written around the year 2000. I'd always been curious about this, I remember it being reported at the time it was composed and performed but then it seemed to drop off the radar: I grabbed the 720p video off you tube, but is there a better audio recording of this somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Hmmm....seems like it IS spelled 'Fanfare for TEN-YEAR-OLDS" after all, not "Ten-Years-Old" -- in other words a fanfare for the kids in the Young Charleston Theater Company, not the company's 10-year anniversary. How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 Hmmm....seems like it IS spelled 'Fanfare for TEN-YEAR-OLDS" after all, not "Ten-Years-Old" -- in other words a fanfare for the kids in the Young Charleston Theater Company, not the company's 10-year anniversary. How do you know?Jeff Eldridge said it over at FSM, and he's probably the greatest authority on John Williams right now. Besides, in my 25 years of being a JW fan, I've always seen it written as "Ten-Year-Olds". Up untill recently, where some confusion seems to have arisen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 FANFARE FOR FENWAY added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 This list is getting small! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I think you could also count the Great Performances themeThe 128k rip from the internet radio show is better than nothing but isn't exactly stellar sounding eitherE.T. Adventure Theme is very important too.And the 2008 extended concert versions of Marion's Theme and Irina's Theme are high on my wish list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 This list is getting small!Small? Not really, and definitely not if you count the TV work. There are about 150 CD's worth of material just there.I think you could also count the Great Performances themeThe 128k rip from the internet radio show is better than nothing but isn't exactly stellar sounding eitherE.T. Adventure Theme is very important too.And the 2008 extended concert versions of Marion's Theme and Irina's Theme are high on my wish listWell, E.T. already has several releases, so I didn't count the various interpretations floating around out there, whether for theme parks or anything else (plus, did Williams have anything to do with the Botanicos thing?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 You never heard it? It's a totally original piece based on one of the E.T. themes (the motif that opens Three Million Light Years from Home) that Williams wrote for the park rideHas nothing to do with what's on the c.d.'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 You never heard it? It's a totally original piece based on one of the E.T. themes that Williams wrote for the park rideHas nothing to do with what's on the c.d.'sYes, I have that track (in a less-than-stellar-sounding bootleg format), but I didn't include it as it's basically just a variation of his E.T. music. Same with the INDY rides and other material based upon the original scores. But I didn't know it was Williams himself who adapted it for the park ride, so thanks for that. I thought someone else had arranged his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Well, now that you mention it.Is there any concrete proof that Williams arranged that piece? It does sound like he did thoughRicard used to list it in the Complete Works section but I don't see it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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