Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The NY Times film critics have put together a list of their Top 25 films of the 21st century so far. I won't quibble with what's missing because this is a really well put together piece with some great film writing. A.O. Scott and Manohla Dargis are all-time great critics and it shows. The films I was most happy to see included that weren't as obvious: Inside Llewyn Davis, Munich, and Wendy and Lucy. The latter especially which is very little seen and a masterpiece in my opinion. The 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far. Anyone who actually pays attention to me on this board knows that I'm a huge fan of Spielberg's more "adult" 21st century films so I was delighted to see Dargis and Scott on my side on this matter: Quote One of us regards “A.I.” as an immortal masterpiece. The other one said: “Over my dead body.” We share the conviction that “War Horse” didn’t get its due (though the best action sequence in “Wonder Woman” pays homage to its dark and thrilling vision of trench warfare). We have called “Bridge of Spies” “perfect” and “Lincoln” “splendid,” even as some of our colleagues ignored the first and nitpicked the second. Bridge of Spies is indeed perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Boyhood... Ugh... Ricard and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I fully agree with THERE WILL BE BLOOD, INSIDE OUT, and MUNICH, but I must confess that I've not seen many of the other 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Seen a few. They were all fine. Their #24 might be my #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Bridge of Spies...perfect? Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ahhhh...more lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 So out of the tens of thousands of movies made in the last 16 years worldwide, Boyhood and the 40 Year Old Virgin occupy spots on this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Where would we be, without 'em? 3 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: So out of the tens of thousands of movies made in the last 16 years worldwide, Boyhood and the 40 Year Old Virgin occupy spots on this list? I'm inclined to agree. No TRAFFIC? No MASTER AND COMMANDER? No P.O.A.? No ABOUT SCHMIDT? No GONE GIRL? M.M.F.R. is an odd one, but I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Good a list as any, obviously a nice, well-articulated read. My favorites on there are There Will Be Blood, Munich, Mad Max, I'm Not There, and Eternal Sunshine. A lot of the best modern directors are represented even if they didn't pick my favorite films, but I'm a little surprised they didn't find room for Pedro Almodovar. Also I feel like I've seen a few too many of these 21st century critics' lists skip LOTR which ain't cool. Of the 8 I haven't seen, probably most interested in Death of Mr Lazarescu. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I've got In Jackson Heights and A Touch of Sin on my list to watch now. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Hadn't heard of A Touch of Sin, looks pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yeah it does! And In Jackson Heights for me because I love sociocultural documentary films and I am woefully ignorant of recent examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Have you seen any of Wiseman's other movies? I've been trying to find his famous early stuff forever (Titicut Follies, High School, Hospital) but they're so hard to find. The Maysles have been a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 "There Will Be Blood" as number 1 is not surprising. As effective as this film is, it is not the best film of the century. "Inherent Vice" is less appreciated, but it is more original and more creative. Besides: Where are Django Unchained, Inglourious Basterds, The Girl with the Dragon Tatoo, Zodiac, The Wolf of Wall Street, Silence, Mulholland Drive, The Dark Knight, Sicario, Enemy, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Seen all but three. A largely odious list, but then, they always are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm glad Munich, L'Enfant and Spirited Away made it, but Christ, how pretentious are those giant gifs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Seen all but three. A largely odious list, but then, they always are. You always have a way of finding just the right adjective to make me roll my eyes. I mean come on, odious? They're just movies for goodness sake. 9 minutes ago, Sharky said: I'm glad Munich, L'Enfant and Spirited Away made it, but Christ, how pretentious are those giant gifs? How pretentious? Just eye-catching graphic design to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: How pretentious? Just eye-catching graphic design to me. It's more s combination of the imagery and write-ups. I'll put it on the table and just say I've never been much of a fan of Scott or Dargis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sharky said: It's more s combination of the imagery and write-ups. I'll put it on the table and just say I've never been much of a fan of Scott or Dargis. Fair enough. I've always liked Scott's writing especially. I read he and Ebert both voraciously as a teen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Fair enough. I've always liked Scott's writing especially. I read he and Ebert both voraciously as a teen. At least we can agree on Vishnevetsky and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm Not There is one of my favorites, but can't say I've seen most of the films on here. Love Inside Llewelyn Davis, but No Country is better. No Malick? The Tree Of Life or The New World would be an easy pick, in my opinion. No Jesse James? But we have The 40-Year Old Virgin. Ah, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Your list would be even more odious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I actually think I started a thread with the very same parameters a while back. Regardless, I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about the movies I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I did a similar thread, but only for the first half of this decade: I thought Koray's contribution to it was great! Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Lists are wanking - they can be fun if there's an intellectual stimulus in the texts attached but they're still wanking. Not that wanking isn't a worthwile diversion but man, who the fuck needs a list to know Koray's (or anyone else's) favourite movies of the 21st century? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: You always have a way of finding just the right adjective to make me roll my eyes. That's the point, dude. You should always read my posts with some mixture of sarcasm, cynicism, and self-deprication, especially those with highfalutin language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Or excessive smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,336 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Is TDK not from the 21st Century? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yeah but McConaughey would look at a NY Times list of films and just go, "Alright, stay cool brother. Anybody seen my bongos?" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 What? No Attack of the Clones? In all honesty, I'm quite surprised and insulted that none of the Lord of the Rings films made the list. Call me a fanboy, but those are some powerful films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Some good choices, some head-scratchers and even more snubs. So just another dumb list for the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Honestly, the Lord of the Rings films are not just some mainstream films (which I thought before I've seen them as an adult in the extended version), they're also cinematic masterpieces (not using this term inflationarily). Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 While I'm inclined to agree with you about the role those films played in the industry, you'd be hard-pressed to really find them on arthouse critic lists like this one. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 It would be an achievement to create a list that contains all kinds of movies. "The Lord of the Rings" AND "Pulp Fiction" AND "Nymphomaniac". KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They Shoot Pictures' list of 1000 is a decent aggregate of that sort. But I mean, it's also sort of an undiscerning mess by nature, particularly as you get deeper into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,336 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Cinephiles say it's the only list worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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