templeofwhat 0 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is there any way to get the original version of "Water"? It just sound more different than the SC version, and i like it alot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Unless there's bootleg tracks of it streaming on YouTube I know no way to hear such a thing legally other than watching the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's on the Concord CD isn't it? The insert came later (film version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 That's what he wants, the part where they emerge with the wide matte shot of the canyon. It's fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The Concord CD only contained the original version of the cue. He later wrote an Insert that is used in the film, but hasn't been released. There has never been a session leak for this score either, so there is no legal or illegal way of getting this music - other than ripping it from the DVD or BD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Did the insert appear anywhere in the Lego cues? I had a feeling it did, albeit not clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The only thing the lego game gave us was the brilliant original version of Indy and the Villagers, the Map insert, and rope bridge music IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The Lego games had it twice! Once as cutscene audio, once as a ingame cue! The ingame cue was as it is edited in the film though (the cutscene has it unedited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: The only thing the lego game gave us was the brilliant original version of Indy and the Villagers, the Map insert, and rope bridge music IIRC There was a piece that I've never heard before, but it sounded like Williams. Is it that extremely weird piece with bass trombones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, Fal said: The Lego games had it twice! Once as cutscene audio, once as a ingame cue! The ingame cue was as it is edited in the film though (the cutscene has it unedited) Ah yes that sounds vaguely familiar now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Try this. Only £519.99! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: There was a piece that I've never heard before, but it sounded like Williams. Is it that extremely weird piece with bass trombones? I don't know what you might be referring too. The original version of Indy and the Villagers fits right in with the rest of the score, and features a full, long-lined development of the shankara stones theme. It's awesome. I just tried finding it on youtube but didn't see it there; Maybe Faleel can put it on youtube for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think we both think of the same cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yea that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The original version of water would be in the liquid state, right? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Not steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I don't think so. I mean, you don't drink steam, right? Wouldn't be ice too, because you can like, stand on ice, while can't stand on steam nor liquid water. I only know 2 people who can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 At some point early in the history of the universe two molecules of hydrogen must have bonded with an oxygen molecule for the first time ever. That's a wild thought. What physical state was water in when it first happened? This is freaking me out. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 What was the temperature of the universe when that first happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Well considering that every natural element by definition was forged in a star, I would think water would have first occurred as steam, in extreme heat. But I'm no scientist. Somebody ask Neil DeGrasse Tyson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I heard that our water came on asteroids from all over the galaxy. When those hitted the surface, the friction caused the molecules to evaporate and accumulate to the point where it rained for like, years and years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Question: How do i rip the music from dvd/bd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 https://www.dvdfab.cn/download.htm And to be clear, its not like the music is stored on blu rays as a separate stream from the other audio; All you can do is rip the entire audio of the finished film out, and hope the music plays without much sound effects from some of the channels for the part you want templeofwhat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 alright, thanks for helping me guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 I just downloaded it, and i have no idea how to do stuff. Help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just search out Faleel's 11 track complete edition, it has everything in great quality, with only very minor atmospherics, nothing distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Where on google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, templeofwhat said: I just downloaded it, and i have no idea how to do stuff. Help please? I think @BloodBoal and @Fal are good at ripping blu rays, can one of you help this guy out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 So in "Water" theres some odd- sounding instruments that i would like to know the names off. Firstly, theres this theremin-ish instrument that plays from 0:50 to 0:52 in the right channel. In the same part, theres also this clean-ish sounding flute (instrument 2). The third instrument sounds like a edited sound of a buzz saw that plays from 0:53 to 0:56. And finally the fourth instrument is hard to describe what it sounds like, and it plays from 1:01 to 1:02. Its kinda hard to hear, so listen closely. instrument 1 and 2.mp3 instrument 3.mp3 instrument 4.mp3 instrument 4 pitch change.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just download the sheet music and see what that says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Where can i get the sheet music for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 My final post about this darn instrument i really need the name of. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=4118 (most noticeable) it doesn't say in the sheet music what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I saw your previous thread, but I didn't hear any of the instruments you listed. So I don't know how to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 There's like 10 different instruments playing... some sound like synth brass dubs. Not sure which instrument you're referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Its hard to describe what it sounds like but i think of a "clean" chainsaw sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Speaking of weird orchestral sounds, what's the percussive instrument being used in the opening of The Island Prologue for TLW, for about ten seconds before the first statement of the island motif? It almost doesn't sound like an instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Prepare for a long read. Also, english isn't my first language, so excuse me. So in "Water", there's this odd instrument wich i think sounds really great, and i would really like the name of it. So i made 2 posts about it, but no one seems to know what im talking about, and the sheet music doesn't have the name of it, so heres an in-depth post about it. The instrument is hard to describe what it sounds like, but i think of a chainsaw when i hear it. The instrument plays in sync with the 6-4 note trombone motif, but its 7,30% lower pitched. Here's the parts where you can easily hear it. At 0:21-0:23 it syncronizes with the tubular bells https://instaud.io/1kKj At 0:46-0:50 the notes are a bit loud and is heard easily https://instaud.io/1kKl At 0:53 to 0:56 its the most obivious part https://instaud.io/1kKm At 1:02-1:05 i slowed it down 8000% and its the loud notes https://instaud.io/1kKo And finally, the last part at 1:14-1:17 https://instaud.io/1kKp and we never hear the instrument again. The instrument is also louder in the movie version, so heres some parts where it can be heard easily. https://instaud.io/1kKq https://instaud.io/1kKr https://instaud.io/1kKs I hope people finally know what instrument im talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I think I hear it now. It just sounds like some synth bass to me, although I'm no instrument expert and may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofwhat 0 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 I cant seem to find any synth sound that sounds similar. Oh well, im outta luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Williams often has specific synth sounds created by the sound engineers, so it can't always be recreated after-the-fact. Eg. the synth 'heartbeat' in Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I still have no idea what you're talking about... The instruments which play the main motif are trumpets, trilling winds, violins, and a piano playing chords in alternating hands supported by chimes and vibraphone. The bass is played by low strings, low brass and low wind. You occasionally get the horns playing a countermelody. Can you hear all those instruments in there? What else is there? The only thing that sounds like a chainsaw to me are the brass, particularly the trumpets playing the main motif, the horns playing the other stuff (like the random chromatic scale) and the trombones and tuba in the bass. templeofwhat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 templeofwhat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Have you considered writing to Williams and just asking him? You'll find him to be quite friendly and responsive to serious musical queries such as yours. templeofwhat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Loert said: I still have no idea what you're talking about... The instruments which play the main motif are trumpets, trilling winds, violins, and a piano playing chords in alternating hands supported by chimes and vibraphone. The bass is played by low strings, low brass and low wind. You occasionally get the horns playing a countermelody. Can you hear all those instruments in there? What else is there? The only thing that sounds like a chainsaw to me are the brass, particularly the trumpets playing the main motif, the horns playing the other stuff (like the random chromatic scale) and the trombones and tuba in the bass. I don't hear anything that sounds like a chainsaw either. No synth in here. Glock + vibes + chimes (bells) + harp + piano for the shimmering as high winds play trills and trumpets and strings play this bouncy rhythm. The low winds, strings, brass playing a pedal E in octaves. Is that the "chainsaw"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 In the first link, there is a low "bwaaaummmmm" sound throughout, and in the third one, there are two higher "byaaaaaaawwwwmmmm"s, if that's what he's referring to. Not really chainsaw-y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Holko said: In the first link, there is a low "bwaaaummmmm" sound throughout, and in the third one, there are two higher "byaaaaaaawwwwmmmm"s, if that's what he's referring to. Not really chainsaw-y. That's just the bass. Strings + brass + woodwind. All spelled out in the sheet music. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I only hear typical orchestral instruments ... Oh, the rest beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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