Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just watched the video and heard the RCP opening and thought King Mark was joking.Then I read the thread and I can't stop laughing.These are dark times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'll never forget this, KM.#NeverForgetJWFanAugust17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 What I want to know is what that slowwww match dissolve from John Boyega into John Williams is signifying.You'll find out when you see the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The unconventional use of male choir is brilliant; makes the Emperor's Theme look like amateur hour.He's always reinventing the musical language of cinema, our maestro. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The music at the beginning of the Korean TV spot is beautiful..I wonder if it's Williams (with synth stuff ovelays). If it's Williams I hope it's part of an awesome choral cueNot Jablonsky after all..."Flux (extended)" (Hi-Finesse)[Credit to user "spartan710" at the Adtunes Forums]Also used in the Fantastic Four trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Much closer to King Mark's style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Now we just need to the find the source of the music in the Instagram teaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Well, it might not be Jablonsky after all but christ, if ever someone had a case for sueing for being ripped off! Manages to rip off The Island and Transformers in one fell swoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Doesn't sound like anything I'd expect from Williams.Agreed, because Williams started to NOT sound like Williams when he scored the prequel trilogy.Case in point: Anakins Theme.This should have been every bit as uncluttered and powerful as any theme that John Williams has ever written, but it just sounds like too many ideas in search of a theme and it ultimately goes nowhere.And since we know what Anakin is going to eventually turn into, that "wink-wink" insertion of the Imperial March at the end is just nothing but trite.Think I'm wrong?Listen to Princess Leia's Theme again for the first time.These are desperate times indeed.Things will probably be even more desperate come the 18th of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Nonsense! Anakin's theme is great, as is the entirety of The Phantom Menace's score. Cerebral Cortex and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Listen to Princess Leia's Theme again for the first time.How can you listen to something for the first time again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 This thread is getting philosophical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Just listen to Anakin's Theme on loop. It's so cluttered, unpowerful and trite that your brain will reboot and erase all Star Wars music files in an attempt to solve the problem.You'll get to listen to all of your old favorites that you won't remember, like Han and Leia's non-existent love theme and Augie's Great Municipal Band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 "Anakin's Theme" is a Concert/End Credits piece, a musical representation of Anakin's journey from young boy, to Jedi hero, and finally to Darth Vader, "Princess Leia's theme" is pretty music to describe a love interestBig difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 "Anakin's Theme" is a Concert/End Credits piece, a musical representation of Anakin's journey from young boy, to Jedi, and finally to Darth Vader, "Princess Leia's theme" is pretty music to describe a love interestBig difference.Agreed. But that doesn't detract from the fact that Princess Leia's Theme is vastly superior to Anakin's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Only superior in your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 "Anakin's Theme" is a Concert/End Credits piece, a musical representation of Anakin's journey from young boy, to Jedi, and finally to Darth Vader, "Princess Leia's theme" is pretty music to describe a love interestBig difference.I don't hear much of the Jedi Anakin in there. It most of all conveys a sweet innocence of the character and the underlying chance of his fall in that not so subtle quote of Imperial March. Across the Stars brings in the element of darkness to Anakin and his journey to the dark side is caused by his love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Only superior in your mind.I'm sure it's not only in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Only superior in your mind.I'm sure it's not only in my mind Where else is it?"Anakin's Theme" is a Concert/End Credits piece, a musical representation of Anakin's journey from young boy, to Jedi, and finally to Darth Vader, "Princess Leia's theme" is pretty music to describe a love interestBig difference.I don't hear much of the Jedi Anakin in there.That's in the B section with its relation to the Main Title/Luke's theme, almost seeming to be telling of heroic deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I can't quite hear it. Williams was going for the de-construction of the Imperial March to something innocent and sweet for the young boy. I doubt his intentions at the time of the writing were to reflect the later Jedi in Anakin. I am not saying it could not have become something like that but alas it was abandoned as a major path of thematic development, again perhaps because it was so sweet and not fit for moody adolescent Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 not fit for moody adolescent Anakin.I said Jedi, not almost Sith whiney Hayden Christensen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 not fit for moody adolescent Anakin.I said Jedi, not almost Sith whiney Hayden Christensen We never get to see anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And we never see a beautiful love story in AOTC either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And we never see a beautiful love story in AOTC either Still my point stands. Theme for Anakin is just for the young child not describing the whole arc of the character. But of course that is only how I see it. Interpretations may wary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Only superior in your mind.I'm sure it's not only in my mind Where else is it?http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 At the time it did seem like we would get an evolved version of the theme in the next film, reflecting the character change towards the Dark Side, but it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 At the time it did seem like we would get an evolved version of the theme in the next film, reflecting the character change towards the Dark Side, but it never happened.Yes sadly it was dropped. By its usage in the sequels it is strongly seen as tied to Anakin's childhood as it is only referenced when younger Anakin's childhood is mentioned in AOTC and when the little wood carving he made for Padme is seen in ROTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One of the great downsides to the prequel trilogy music is the lack of development of any of the new themes, really. Anakin's is a terrific missed opportunity. It was basically shuffled off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One of the great downsides to the prequel trilogy music is the lack of development of any of the new themes, really. Anakin's is a terrific missed opportunity. It was basically shuffled off.Yes many of them are isolated to a single film only by the necessity of plot points to which they are tied being discarded in one way or the other. There are not many constant enduring elements with thematic significance in the Prequels really that would have a larger 3 movie musical arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Only superior in your mind.I'm sure it's not only in my mind Where else is it?http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25655That's still the opinions of minds.And we never see a beautiful love story in AOTC either Still my point stands. Theme for Anakin is just for the young child not describing the whole arc of the character.Then why does it have the Imperial March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One of the great downsides to the prequel trilogy music is the lack of development of any of the new themes, really. Anakin's is a terrific missed opportunity. It was basically shuffled off.Yes many of them are isolated to a single film only by the necessity of plot points to which they are tied being discarded in one way or the other. There are not many constant enduring elements with thematic significance in the Prequels really that would have a larger 3 movie musical arc.Yeah, another missed opportunity was playing around with the Battle of the Heroes theme in a major key or something like that for the first part of the movie, representing Anakin and Obi-Wan's friendship. Would have been so cool to hear that theme getting more and more twisted as the film progressed.I don't know who's to blame for that, though. Williams or Lucas. Or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Conrad Pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One of the great downsides to the prequel trilogy music is the lack of development of any of the new themes, really. Anakin's is a terrific missed opportunity. It was basically shuffled off.Yes many of them are isolated to a single film only by the necessity of plot points to which they are tied being discarded in one way or the other. There are not many constant enduring elements with thematic significance in the Prequels really that would have a larger 3 movie musical arc.Yeah, another missed opportunity was playing around with the Battle of the Heroes theme in a major key or something like that.Would it even sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Williams would have made it sound good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Never thought of that before. Shame that Obi-Wan and Anakin didn't have a friendship theme established early that could have become the Battle of Heroes theme in another guise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Some fan tried to do that, but it was just a ripoff of the Smallville theme from Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Some fan tried to do that, but it was just a ripoff of the Smallville theme from Superman.The Smallville Theme. John Williams channeling Aaron Copeland big time.A very nice and heartfelt piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Cowboys did it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Cowboys did it first.Smallville theme is JW's improved version number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only superior in your mind.I'm sure it's not only in my mind Where else is it?http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25655That's still the opinions of minds.Sure, opinions of minds are what make things to be superior to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only within the mind of the individual holding the opinion though. It is not some external, objective measure of quality that invalidates someone else's opinion who prefers something else, which is what I believe Faleel is getting at. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only within the mind of the individual holding the opinion though.Sure, but that is all there is if we're talking about art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 That's why I prefer not to talk about art at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 But what is art? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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