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That's a good example of how words will always have more of an effect than even the most well-executed and directed forms of visual storytelling. The way that River's words make us feel about a version of the Doctor that we haven't seen is visceral and exciting. And I suppose, in a way, is very much the whole point of that episode, and much of Moffat's tenure. It's not so much what we see of Doctor that makes him so wonderful to his allies or so terrible to his enemies, but rather the way that stories about him are told in the universe of the show. The Pandorica alliance, the Church of the Silence, the Daleks in the Time War... they're all largely motivated by and act on the stories of the Doctor's victories that are passed down to them, or delivered by a sole witness to the events. Similarly, the version of the Doctor that River talks about doesn't actually exist; it's just how she sees him, and although we see many of the things she describes about him come to pass (like entire armies running away) nothing will ever compare to the reverent way with which she tells that story.
 
Anyway, I mainly wanted to talk about how wonderfully poetic this show used to be, and will be again soon. Words and phrases like "I saw you fly into the jaws of the Nightmare Child", or "the Could've Been King and his army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres"; they stimulate the imagination so brilliantly and paint the picture of a universe so vivid and interesting that no amount of money (Disney-levels or otherwise) could effectively depict. It's why in this age of dreary, flat and unimaginative CGI Marvel/DC/StarWars slop-fests that I think the old saying "show don't tell" should actually be "tell well rather than show poorly"

Patents aren't ever a guarantee of what to expect, but I do love the idea of a detachable dual screen. The back catalogue of DS and 3DS games is far too good for them not to allow us to play them on the next system!

That's a good example of how words will always have more of an effect than even the most well-executed and directed forms of visual storytelling. The way that River's words make us feel about a version of the Doctor that we haven't seen is visceral and exciting. And I suppose, in a way, is very much the whole point of that episode, and much of Moffat's tenure. It's not so much what we see of Doctor that makes him so wonderful to his allies or so terrible to his enemies, but rather the way that stories about him are told in the universe of the show. The Pandorica alliance, the Church of the Silence, the Daleks in the Time War... they're all largely motivated by and act on the stories of the Doctor's victories that are passed down to them, or delivered by a sole witness to the events. Similarly, the version of the Doctor that River talks about doesn't actually exist; it's just how she sees him, and although we see many of the things she describes about him come to pass (like entire armies running away) nothing will ever compare to the reverent way with which she tells that story.
 
Anyway, I mainly wanted to talk about how wonderfully poetic this show used to be, and will be again soon. Words and phrases like "I saw you fly into the jaws of the Nightmare Child", or "the Could've Been King and his army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres"; they stimulate the imagination so brilliantly and paint the picture of a universe so vivid and interesting that no amount of money (Disney-levels or otherwise) could effectively depict. It's why in this age of dreary, flat and unimaginative CGI Marvel/DC/StarWars slop-fests that I think the old saying "show don't tell" should actually be "tell well rather than show poorly"

Yeah, @Brónach, it's among the - very - few Chibnall DWs that I like.
Thankfully, neither Henry, or Fry, lasted long.
I really like Sacha Dhawan, but that whole "Rasputin" thing, in "Power Of The Doctor" was just plain embarrassing. It tried to echo what The Master did, in "Last Of The Time Lords", but it didn't come off.

For those with access to BBC4 - on Wednesday night at 7:30 'Talking Doctor Who', an hour-long docu presented by David Tennant in which he looks at the classic era and compares the experiences of previous Doctors in the role to his own. It's followed by the filmed version of the recent concert.  

Nah Gen Z is the most pop-culture literate generation yet. Most of them would have some awareness of Doctor Who, and almost certainly David Tennant, even if they haven't actually watched it. It worked the same for us millennials - we were all well aware of the show (and particularly Tom Baker) even though it was off the air for the first half of our lives. But Gen Z were also raised in a Marvel world; being pop culture-savvy in this generation means familiarising yourself with a back-catalogue of stories and mythos over half a century old. They'll catch on straight away, and probably quicker than any of us did.

Nah Gen Z is the most pop-culture literate generation yet. Most of them would have some awareness of Doctor Who, and almost certainly David Tennant, even if they haven't actually watched it. It worked the same for us millennials - we were all well aware of the show (and particularly Tom Baker) even though it was off the air for the first half of our lives. But Gen Z were also raised in a Marvel world; being pop culture-savvy in this generation means familiarising yourself with a back-catalogue of stories and mythos over half a century old. They'll catch on straight away, and probably quicker than any of us did.

So, if you've never seen this new Doctor Who thing they're putting on Disney+ how are you going to feel about this lead actor going away after three episodes?

So, four specials between 25th November, and Christmas Day 

There definitely is a Christmas special this year, and it'll be Ncuti's first episode. 

Season 5 trailer is here
 
 

The new Gold arrangement is awesome and so him! But he really needs to get Years and Years released - this climatic score is just fucking wonderful:
 

The same leak (or other?.. I don't know) also includes some synth versions of S1 such as "Westminster Bridge", "A Lone Dalek" and some more. Great stuff imo. I obviously prefer the re-recorded orchestral versions (I also love the "The Girl In The Fireplace" concert version (there's also a second one)) but the original synth versions also have something unique and likeable about them.
 
I don't think that it will be one release. S10 plus surrounding specials need at least 3CDs. Maybe even 4. I hope Murray decides against the idea of giving the christmas specials their own disc for S10... I don't like the idea of having two half empty discs of "The Return Of Doctor Mysterio" and "Twice Upon A Time" while "World Enough And Time/The Doctor Falls" gets squeezed with 2 or three other episodes.

Fifteeen reminds me a bit of Thunderbirds. I can kind of hear the brass chords a minute or so in coming in during moments of heroism.
 
Although nothing from either of these is standing out to me as particularly hummable or as accessible as Gold's previous themes.

No-one else has any thoughts about the new themes for Ruby and Fifteen? I'm dying to talk about them both, they're wonderful!
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n
 
1:32:28 is "The Life of Sunday", Ruby's theme. Romantic, lush and gorgeous, heavy on the piano and very Chopin-esque, which makes me wonder if Ruby has a background in or connection to classical music. Or perhaps it's just a beautiful nocturne that Gold thought fit her character.
1:41:14 is "Fifteen". I'm in love with this theme. I've been playing it on repeat for the past week. It's bonkers, over-the-top, heroic, a little bit silly, a little bit rockstar, and a lot of fun. Also the motif that dominates the second half is extremely memorable, and will give "I Am the Doctor" a run for its money in terms of recognisability - and actually it's rhythmically very similar to that theme but the melodic contour is reversed.
 
Also worth listening to Gold and RTD speak in the above link - very insightful and witty, though they're very coy about what to expect from the new episodes. Love RTD's line after the huge bombast of "Fifteen" - "as you can hear... we're coming back subtler than ever".
 
 

No-one else has any thoughts about the new themes for Ruby and Fifteen? I'm dying to talk about them both, they're wonderful!
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n
 
1:32:28 is "The Life of Sunday", Ruby's theme. Romantic, lush and gorgeous, heavy on the piano and very Chopin-esque, which makes me wonder if Ruby has a background in or connection to classical music. Or perhaps it's just a beautiful nocturne that Gold thought fit her character.
1:41:14 is "Fifteen". I'm in love with this theme. I've been playing it on repeat for the past week. It's bonkers, over-the-top, heroic, a little bit silly, a little bit rockstar, and a lot of fun. Also the motif that dominates the second half is extremely memorable, and will give "I Am the Doctor" a run for its money in terms of recognisability - and actually it's rhythmically very similar to that theme but the melodic contour is reversed.
 
Also worth listening to Gold and RTD speak in the above link - very insightful and witty, though they're very coy about what to expect from the new episodes. Love RTD's line after the huge bombast of "Fifteen" - "as you can hear... we're coming back subtler than ever".
 
 

I listened through the whole concert, it was wonderful. I love the new material - Fifteen’s theme is something special IMO. Very influenced by “I Am The Doctor” - relentlessly pulsing, energetic and fun - but with a dangerous edge to it. It’s fresh and it’s very very interesting, shades of a mad marching band about it. Can’t wait to hear it in action.

No-one else has any thoughts about the new themes for Ruby and Fifteen? I'm dying to talk about them both, they're wonderful!
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n
 
1:32:28 is "The Life of Sunday", Ruby's theme. Romantic, lush and gorgeous, heavy on the piano and very Chopin-esque, which makes me wonder if Ruby has a background in or connection to classical music. Or perhaps it's just a beautiful nocturne that Gold thought fit her character.
1:41:14 is "Fifteen". I'm in love with this theme. I've been playing it on repeat for the past week. It's bonkers, over-the-top, heroic, a little bit silly, a little bit rockstar, and a lot of fun. Also the motif that dominates the second half is extremely memorable, and will give "I Am the Doctor" a run for its money in terms of recognisability - and actually it's rhythmically very similar to that theme but the melodic contour is reversed.
 
Also worth listening to Gold and RTD speak in the above link - very insightful and witty, though they're very coy about what to expect from the new episodes. Love RTD's line after the huge bombast of "Fifteen" - "as you can hear... we're coming back subtler than ever".
 
 

I hate when that happens. From what I could hear in the recording of the new concert there was zero audience noise throughout any of the performances (except for applause after each piece finished of course). I wonder if that means they didn't do the usual rolling out of monsters on stage, or didn't show any footage while the music played. If so that's great - the orchestra is the main event after all!

Is there any word on when the 60th concert will be available to watch? I can't find anything other than just it'll be "at a later date", but I'd love to watch the orchestra in action.
 
Gosh this has ramped up my anticipation. I haven't felt this excited about new Who since the lead-up to Moffat/Smith's first season.

I listened through the whole concert, it was wonderful. I love the new material - Fifteen’s theme is something special IMO. Very influenced by “I Am The Doctor” - relentlessly pulsing, energetic and fun - but with a dangerous edge to it. It’s fresh and it’s very very interesting, shades of a mad marching band about it. Can’t wait to hear it in action.

I hate when that happens. From what I could hear in the recording of the new concert there was zero audience noise throughout any of the performances (except for applause after each piece finished of course). I wonder if that means they didn't do the usual rolling out of monsters on stage, or didn't show any footage while the music played. If so that's great - the orchestra is the main event after all!

I saw the one Proms where they played Gallifrey and the audience applauded all over it. Philistines. (Matt Smith ad libbed with a kid in the audience and he just INHABITED his character. It was amazing.)

Is there any word on when the 60th concert will be available to watch? I can't find anything other than just it'll be "at a later date", but I'd love to watch the orchestra in action.
 
Gosh this has ramped up my anticipation. I haven't felt this excited about new Who since the lead-up to Moffat/Smith's first season.

Never mind kings and queens when you can have a Lord of Time…