Hitch 57 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Haydn's Symphonies Nos. 50, 51 & 52 (Swedish Chamber Orchestra / Bela Drahos, conductor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Star Trek:Very good! The main theme still sounds a bit Zimmerish in its first two phrases (at least in the first cue) and a bit Hornerish in the final one (especially in "Hella Bar Talk"). I'm not quite sure which theme is Nero's main one, there's about three that could all fit that title I think, but those are probably my favorite new themes. Some great low brass writing. "Enterprising Young Men" is a great cue, Elfmanesque in the beginning, but it sounds very Giacchino by the end. And I like "End Credits," nice use of Courage's theme. I'd probably rank this second in terms of Giacchino scores that I own. One thing that could of been better I think is the orchestra's performance. Particularly in the big brass hits in "Enterprising Young Men..." there seems to be something lacking. 4/5 stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think it's less of a performance issue than it is a recording/mixing issue. A lot of people have complained about the CD's weak sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I agree with every sentence of your post, indy4. (Except perhaps the second-best-Giacchino-score thing...I DO have all four Lost OSTs to compare it to... ) The main theme is interesting how it's almost half-Zimmer, half-Horner. Works quite well, I think, but the trumpets do sound pretty pathetic in those tutti ostinatos, as you said.On the whole, the score really does have some MV-ish tendencies, but I like the way Giacchino handled that. That style of scoring is just so popular with audiences these days that it was probably a good decision...but he wisely didn't go overboard with synths or direct rip-offs of real MV cliches. And it's not as if his own style went out the window - the repetitive but strangely delicious motifs and so forth are still there. Anyway, regardless of how we analyze it, at the end of the day, I still would count this as a very good 4-star score, like you. =) And I hope the DVDs don't take too long to come out, since I'd really like to get cracking on a complete soundtrack eventually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I only own 4 Giacchino scores, and none of them are to Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 The score piece for Ryan Vs. Dorkman II by Gordy Haab and Kyle Newmaster. I listen to this piece every day sometimes a few times a day, it's fun and I can never tire of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I only own 4 Giacchino scores, and none of them are to Lost.Gotta get crackin' on that! Seriously amazing work, particularly if you're into the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Can't say that I am...but I'll consider getting the scores. I'm not exactly the biggest Giacchino fan, but I do enjoy what I have heard from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I don't own all of his albums or anything, but I really enjoy most of what I've heard. The peculiar thing is...sometimes I really have no fondness for it at first, and then it grows on me immensely. That happened with Lost. I used to think it was simplistic and annoying...now I think it's some of the best television scoring ever done! (And if you want to get into the show, the first four seasons are available for free on abc.com in stunning quality...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Sure! "Nero Sighted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 The Omen: A great score, the only Goldsmith score that's better that I've heard is TMP. "Ave Satani" is great, the choir is incredibly effective. A good choice by Goldsmith. Throughout the score the choir really gets a good use. But some of the best moments of the score are those that contain the very disturbing but subtle variation on the love theme--"A Doctor, Please," in particular. That probably the scariest cue in the entire score. The love theme is pretty great, the actual song "Piper's Dream" is okay. 4.5/5 stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I just noticed something in "Run and Shoot Offense" - at 1:08, the meld motif from "Nice to Meld You" comes back subtly, beneath the erhu. This is when Spock is melding with the unconscious Romulan, right? I'd noticed the erhu stuff, obviously, but this was the first time I noticed the meld motif beneath it. Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 323 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Caprica (Bear McCreary). Got it at Dark Delicacies today. Got lots of stuff signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I only own 4 Giacchino scores, and none of them are to Lost.The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek and... Cloverfield?I think everyone who at the very least enjoys Giacchino's music should listen to Medal Of Honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Monsignor by John Williams: What a beautiful score. I remember instantly falling in love with this music when I first heard it years ago and was over joyed when it finally received its official CD release. This score has aged well. It gets better and better with time. Every track is a highlight unto itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Monsignor by John Williams: What a beautiful score. I remember instantly falling in love with this music when I first heard it years ago and was over joyed when it finally received its official CD release. This score has aged well. It gets better and better with time. Every track is a highlight unto itself.I like all Williams scores with this sort of european air. From 'Jane Eyre' to 'Seven Years in Tibet' there is not one i'd trade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 The Patriot by John Williams: I have say I love this large scale Americana Williams has composed for the score. I would have liked to hear Mark O'Connor more than just in End Credits but the music focuses more on patriotic brassy Americana than folksy tones the violinist composer is known for. And the Love theme is simply gorgeous and very underrated.Continuing with Americana Sommersby by Danny Elfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I just noticed something in "Run and Shoot Offense" - at 1:08, the meld motif from "Nice to Meld You" comes back subtly, beneath the erhu. This is when Spock is melding with the unconscious Romulan, right?YesUp - Another solid effort by Giacchino. I enjoyed watching the video clip that came with the download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I only own 4 Giacchino scores, and none of them are to Lost.The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek and... Cloverfield?I think everyone who at the very least enjoys Giacchino's music should listen to Medal Of Honor.Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek, and M:i:III. I also own "Roar!" but I didn't count it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 The Day of the Dolphin - Georges DelerueEven the atmospheric cues are interesting to listen to, but the real highlight is the main theme written for the score, as heard in "Nocturne". It's absolutely beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I only own 4 Giacchino scores, and none of them are to Lost.The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek and... Cloverfield?I think everyone who at the very least enjoys Giacchino's music should listen to Medal Of Honor.Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek, and M:i:III. I also own "Roar!" but I didn't count it before.Right. Well I highly highly highly recommend MOH. I don't think one needs to have played the game to appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think I listened to the samples a while ago and they didn't impress me. But I could be wrong. i'll try to listen to them sometime this week again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 To be honest, I think Medal of Honor is my favorite Michael Giacchino score, at least in terms of sheer enjoyability. I would recommend it, indy4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's very good. My pick would also be MoH Airborne. It's more action oriented compared to adventurous original, but offers some extraordinary dramatic cues that you won't find there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I have actually never listened to Medal of Honor: Airborne, I think I will listen to some samples right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's excellent, but like Chris said it's darker and more action than really adventure. That was the point really, Giacchino didn't want it to be fun and exciting, he wanted to create a soundscape that made the player feel like they were in real danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Airborne is a bit less connected thematically to the previous scores too, but you can also hear Giacchino's maturation as a composer since the early days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I don't hear the maturation, it's in the same vein as the other scores, just serious and more dramatic. Giacchino doesn't need to "mature," he's fine the way he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I never said he needed to, but you can definately hear it in the orchestrations. But I suppose someone who's used to having his ears blasted by Zimmer's simplistic drivel might not notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I'm not quite sure which theme is Nero's main one, there's about three that could all fit that title I think, but those are probably my favorite new themes.3 themes for Nero? I found 2 and listed them here.Incredibles, Ratatouille, Star Trek, and M:i:III. I also own "Roar!" but I didn't count it before.I like all those scores quite a bit, but LOST truly is ever better than them all. Great stuff. The season 4 soundtrack if my favorite score CD I've bought in quite a whileI just noticed something in "Run and Shoot Offense" - at 1:08, the meld motif from "Nice to Meld You" comes back subtly, beneath the erhu. This is when Spock is melding with the unconscious Romulan, right? I'd noticed the erhu stuff, obviously, but this was the first time I noticed the meld motif beneath it. Pretty cool.I think you're just talking about Spock Prime's theme.... that's been broken down here for a while now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I'm not quite sure which theme is Nero's main one, there's about three that could all fit that title I think, but those are probably my favorite new themes.3 themes for Nero? I found 2 and listed them here.Just listened to those, the third theme I was talking about was the one heard at 1:10 of "Enterprising Young Men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Ah, that's what I refer to as the "Action Theme"...This discussion should really be continued in that thread, not this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I just noticed something in "Run and Shoot Offense" - at 1:08, the meld motif from "Nice to Meld You" comes back subtly, beneath the erhu. This is when Spock is melding with the unconscious Romulan, right? I'd noticed the erhu stuff, obviously, but this was the first time I noticed the meld motif beneath it. Pretty cool.I think you're just talking about Spock Prime's theme.... that's been broken down here for a while nowNo, Spock Prime's theme is different. I'm talking about the unique motif that runs through much of "Nice to Meld You," starting at the very beginning, but doesn't make any other appearances on the album (possibly in the whole score) aside from the "Run and Shoot Offense" passage I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I just watched the premiere of John Williams' "Soundings (Excerpt)", and I have to say that I loved it. Is it currently released on album, I cannot find it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Amistad. I received it as a gift and just gave it a first listen - interesting stuff. I suspect it'll grow on me. Some of the string writing in the middle is a little reminiscent of TPM (I guess it should be the other way around!), but not enough for it to bother me. Cinque's theme is similar to a brief passage in Saving Private Ryan (again, I should say it the other way around!), and they both feel slightly related to the main theme to Giacchino's Lost. Anyway, yeah, I think this album will grow on me with future listenings, but I already find it pretty good. It ends nicely, too, which helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 It definitely grew on me. It's one of my favorite dramatic JW scores. And thanks for the info, Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I just watched the premiere of John Williams' "Soundings (Excerpt)", and I have to say that I loved it. Is it currently released on album, I cannot find it anywhere.It's unreleased. The only way to listen to it is by watching the video. This "excerpt" is actually the whole piece.It definitely grew on me. It's one of my favorite dramatic JW scores.Amistad is terrific. A top-notch dramatic score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The Mask of Zorro which is basically Willow with some flamenco and guitars on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 True, but it is somewhat corrected in the sequel.Terminator Salvation by Danny ElfmanI'm really enjoying this score. I liked the clips, but I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. Certainly not like his Planet of the Apes-type of garbage. It has even a theme! Not a very special one, but it goes along with the source material very well. Anything more would have been too much. The best score of the summer so far. I imagine lots of people hating it, but it's a miracle Danny Elfman gets to score this type of film and show everybody how it's done. Even if he does follow some modern trends. Good job!The Aviator by Howard ShoreOne of his strongest. A great album. Pity it's not so glorious in the film.I Am Legend by James Newton HowardGreat theme, a couple of standout cues. But a great score? I don't think so.Karol - listening now to Frost/Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Terminator Salvation by Danny ElfmanI'm really enjoying this score. I liked the clips, but I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. Certainly not like his Planet of the Apes-type of garbage.'Planet of the Apes' is a-great Elfman. 'T4' is a-standard Elfman sounding like 'Dark Knight' half of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I don't understand the dislike for Elfman's POTA among the film score community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I don't understand the dislike for Elfman's POTA among the film score community.Me neither, I think it's superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it will be one of those head scratchers, much like those who gave Ben Hur 1 star in the poll we did.Of course I'm not saying his POTA score is Ben Hur's equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 True, but it is somewhat corrected in the sequel.Terminator Salvation by Danny ElfmanI'm really enjoying this score. I liked the clips, but I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. Certainly not like his Planet of the Apes-type of garbage. It has even a theme! Not a very special one, but it goes along with the source material very well. Anything more would have been too much. The best score of the summer so far. I imagine lots of people hating it, but it's a miracle Danny Elfman gets to score this type of film and show everybody how it's done. Even if he does follow some modern trends. Good job!It's really good work by Elfman. It's my favourite album of the year so far. Too bad the movie is (said to be) garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Terminator Salvation by Danny ElfmanI'm really enjoying this score. I liked the clips, but I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. Certainly not like his Planet of the Apes-type of garbage.'T4' is a-standard Elfman sounding like 'Dark Knight' half of the time.I hear no similarity.I don't understand the dislike for Elfman's POTA among the film score community.I understand the intent to make it sound barbaric and such. It's just I don't really like his "trash can" percussion samples or his electronic stuff, which is mainly what the entire score consists of. The fact that the main theme is train motif from Elfman's Mission: Impossible made the matters even worse.I might be too harsh though. I haven't listened to POTA in a long time.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I've listened to "Three Gone" from Bernstein's The Great Escape about four times in a row, and each time, I'm waiting for it to break into something from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Great writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I haven't listened to POTA in a long time.Keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 MunichI could listen to "A Prayer for Peace" for hours. In fact, I think I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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