BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Hi! How are you?Have you ever tried to do a service for people at JWFan? Yes? Have you noticed how no good dead goes unpunished? I have. So from now on, anything cool and legitimate I find online, I'll just PM it to people I think will actually appreciate it, instead of dissecting its (clearly) legal merits. - Love,Blume N. KohlP.S. My sincerest regards to the JW-Fan self-proclaimed copyright militia of the day: Vaderbait1. Uh oh. Unreleased music discussion?Proving that a random forummer can question the merits of battle-hardened Hollywood agents and lawyers. These professional people might say "Hey [insert composer name]! Putting these samples up on your professional site is completely legal and we have the right to do it!" but Vaderbait, he knows better. Round of applause please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sweet! Awesome find. Thanks for the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It's a shame Ron Jones never got the chance to score one of the Next Gen films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Indeed, I was just listening to my promo Starfleet Academy disc...and he wrote some marvelous music for that. Back in '97 when I first got the promo from Interplay I always sort of attached it to any pre-Kirk/Academy/Young Crew storyline...so Giacchino is gonna have to beat Ron Jones in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I guess I should mention that there's a track titled "Foot Sex." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It's a shame Ron Jones never got the chance to score one of the Next Gen films.Well, you know that master of musical logic, Rick Berman, would never had let someone whose music was so "identifiable" to score Star Trek ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 That's the site re-design from a few weeks back. Also some unreleased stuff from "Family Guy" and "Ducktales". I saved he previous samples from his old site thankfully, as not all of them are on the new one. At least I haven't foudn them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It's a shame Ron Jones never got the chance to score one of the Next Gen films.Well, you know that master of musical logic, Rick Berman, would never had let someone whose music was so "identifiable" to score Star Trek ever again.I don't know, I think hiring Jerry Goldsmith was a pretty solid choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I guess I should mention that there's a track titled "Foot Sex."Yes, I'm wondering what ep that was from. I'd rather have had more McCarthy film scores than a Jones one. Although Jerry's are perfectly fine, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 The Duck Tales music has just made my day. This is awesome. Thanks!This partially fulfills a little post request I made back in 2002:http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=28504 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It's a shame Ron Jones never got the chance to score one of the Next Gen films.Well, you know that master of musical logic, Rick Berman, would never had let someone whose music was so "identifiable" to score Star Trek ever again.I don't know, I think hiring Jerry Goldsmith was a pretty solid choice.Maybe for the films he gave Goldsmith more freedom but from what's been said he had a tight rein on the composers for the TV series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 That's because Jerry Goldsmith said my way or the highway buddy. And with Berman's reputation amongst the music industry in addition to the budget limitations...he went Jerry's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Uh oh. Unreleased music discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 No, this should be sanctioned because it's the personal website of a composer who is providing music of his choosing at his website purely to stream and listen to. If the studios had not permitted this, it would not have happened. Technically, there is no download button and therefore no mass distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think Marc should just go ahead and delete half the threads on the board. A cull of gargantuan proportions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Isn't this forum crashing and burning next spring anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I more enjoy the Family Guy work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 No, this should be sanctioned because it's the personal website of a composer who is providing music of his choosing at his website purely to stream and listen to. If the studios had not permitted this, it would not have happened. Technically, there is no download button and therefore no mass distribution.Who cares if there is a download option? It is not an officially released (thus the term unreleased) product and therefore is somehow detrimental to Big Music. And since it is not available on an album, it does not exist, capiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 No, this should be sanctioned because it's the personal website of a composer who is providing music of his choosing at his website purely to stream and listen to. If the studios had not permitted this, it would not have happened.Either that, or Ron Jones is the next Gabriel Yared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Isn't this forum crashing and burning next spring anyways?No, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I exaggamerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 No, this should be sanctioned because it's the personal website of a composer who is providing music of his choosing at his website purely to stream and listen to. If the studios had not permitted this, it would not have happened. Technically, there is no download button and therefore no mass distribution.Who cares if there is a download option? It is not an officially released (thus the term unreleased) product and therefore is somehow detrimental to Big Music. And since it is not available on an album, it does not exist, capiche?You know a little common sense never hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 How is detrimental to big music? Four of the cues that Jones offers are from The Best of Both Worlds, which is a commercial album that he links to at Amazon if you want to go buy it. There's not that many TNG score albums available, and that's virtually the only way to get any Ron Jones material on album as score. I would sell half of the scores I own to be able to buy a Ron Jones album of Duck Tales music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Oh for f*cks sake. I'll just remove the link. It is completely kosher, legal, legitimate, halal, sanctified, etc. etc., but you know what? Some of you people don't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I very much like Ron Jones' music for Star Trek The Next Generation. It's too bad that GNP couldn't release more music from TNG, DS9 and Voyager. There's a lot of great music from those series by McCarthy, Jones, and Chattaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Here's Ron's homepage: http://www.ronjonesproductions.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Oh for f*cks sake. I'll just remove the link. It is completely kosher, legal, legitimate, halal, sanctified, etc. etc., but you know what? Some of you people don't deserve it.Man, sometimes you really make me think of a little baby that's just had its bottle knocked to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sweet! Awesome find. Thanks for the link!Ha ha! Even this was edited! BTW, Blumenkohl, I do appreciate your posting about this, so should you find something else cool in the future, feel free to add me to that PM list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Actually, I have no complaints about the site. Legal? That's another question. Doesn't matter whether it's his site and music he composed, bur rather who owns the rights and if they gave permission for him to post these things. Paramount got on to Mark McKenzie after posting cues from his "Enterprise" episode score, which then were taken down and replaced with a suite (which ronically contained some mroe score not in the cues originally posted).Unless Paramount has had a change of heart about Star Trek music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Man, sometimes you really make me think of a little baby that's just had its bottle knocked to the ground.And who are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Man, sometimes you really make me think of a little baby that's just had its bottle knocked to the ground.And who are you?He's yo daddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Man, sometimes you really make me think of a little baby that's just had its bottle knocked to the ground.No, um, that would...me. C'mon, Blume, we can look for our bottles together. My poison's whiskey, what's yours? And for the record, I did appreciate the find. And I really like Firefox and its DownloadHelper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 He's yo daddy.Oh no you didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Actually, I have no complaints about the site.Neither do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 It's a shame Ron Jones never got the chance to score one of the Next Gen films.Well, you know that master of musical logic, Rick Berman, would never had let someone whose music was so "identifiable" to score Star Trek ever again.I don't know, I think hiring Jerry Goldsmith was a pretty solid choice.He hired Goldsmith because he knew they were in serious trouble of having the TNG movies not fly. It was a smart move.And, yeah, Berman did keep a really tight reign on the composers of the TV series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 How is detrimental to big music? Four of the cues that Jones offers are from The Best of Both Worlds, which is a commercial album that he links to at Amazon if you want to go buy it. There's not that many TNG score albums available, and that's virtually the only way to get any Ron Jones material on album as score. I would sell half of the scores I own to be able to buy a Ron Jones album of Duck Tales music!It's not detrimental.Apparently it wasn't obvious enough that I was making fun of the new ban on mentioning anything not officially released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 "Try not. Do, or do not. There is no 'try'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Apparently it wasn't obvious enough that I was making fun of the new ban on mentioning anything not officially released.I plan on doing that as much as physically possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Apparently it wasn't obvious enough that I was making fun of the new ban on mentioning anything not officially released.It couldn't have been more obvious. How did anyone take it seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I laughed my ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I laughed my ass off.You can't have many to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTallJodie 59 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Whoa! DuckTales music FTW! In the show itself, it kind of grates, since they repeat the same stock cues over and over again, but those stock cues were still pretty sweet. Hooray for Ron Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Fett 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 There's a wonderful Family Guy cue there called 'Back From Death'. Lots of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 That's actually a spin on Ron Jones' own score to the Star Trek The Next Gen episode Best Of Both Worlds Part I.On a side not, Lukas Kendall of FSM mentioned he ruined the first take of the cue. He was at the Family Guy scoring sessions and had a fit of laughter when they began playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Fett 0 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Yeah, I remember actually busting up when I saw the To Be Continued screen and heard the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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