Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Seems like a nice token (and yes, of course I'd be reacting differently if this were a set I was obsessed with ) but yes, Concord-style wording plagues again.I still sort of hope the separate scores might be available, maybe digitally. I only want the Sleepy Hollow bonus tracks and I'll gladly pay a few ££. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Well once again, I think the wording could have been better for this.When it was announced that there was going to be a signed, bonus disc, most people probably assumed (and rightly so) that it would include different material that what was already included.Had WB announced that the bonus disc would be a "Best Of", including music already in the set but with exclusive artwork and signed by Elfman, people might not have gotten upset.Yeah, I agree. True, WB didn't have to send out this Bonus CD, but they shouldn't have raised our hopes and been purposely unclear, most likely knowing that everybody expected exclusive music. That said, I'm still looking forward to this CD as a teaser and for the autograph. I haven't heard a note of Elfman since September, so this will be a nice relief from that drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Disappointing. That's stuff that's already In the Box not to mention we got that on their original albums. (The Main titles aand end credits at least.) I've done that b4 where I listen to Elfman's main titles for the Burton films for fun. This ain't nothing special except for the autograph. IMO,there should've been music that they couldn't fit on some of the albums. Like POTA, for example. I remember Elfman said he wrote music for the war scene and Burton liked the " Ape suite #2 " (which was originally written for the album, b/c the music wasn't finished yet for the movie) better and played that with the scene instead. I'd ve liked to hear his original version of that scene and other stuff they couldn't fit on some of the albums. I guess we're never going to hear Elfman hum the Batman theme on tape recorder in the bathroom of an airplane. Oh well. At least the autograph will be worth it. Oh yeah I also notice they're using the original album edits of Sleepy Hollow and Big Fish main title. Instead of using the complete Main Title. That doesn't make sense. When I hear main titles I'd like to hear it in it's entirety. Not an edited version. (that really ticked me off about the Spider-man score album b/c the song album had the complete main title, but the scvore album didn't) They could've at least got that right. That's proof that this was really released for the autograph which was fine but if the autograph was the only thing special about the bonus disc . Then they could've had Elfman signed the certifcates or the book or the dvd. Sorry about this rant and whining. I'm still excited for Elfman's autograph and the box ,dvd, and book itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It looks like they've used the original album edits for everything.They've made and shipped this completely free, so while yes, they did promise something 'exclusive' and it's not, you still have a nice compilation signed by Elfman.Had this been a box set I was investing in, and therefore having the shoe on the other foot, I'd be merely bloody impatient right about now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 From what I understand this CD is just a small compensation for the delays. It's a last minute addition and going again through the process of licensing stuff would have been just too expensive.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It looks like they've used the original album edits for everything.Which is asinine. We went through this with the Indiana Jones set, although with that I actually cared about it, and they also extended or changed some album tracks. Even the Star Wars Anthology, which was faithful to the original album edits, "fixed" and extended certain things. From what I understand, this set is like taking all the original CD issues (officially available for dirt cheap except Pee-Wee, the holy grail) and adding a few tracks and some bonus CDs. It actually comes off like a ridiculous scam for the price they demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Disappointing. That's stuff that's already In the Box not to mention we got that on their original albums. (The Main titles aand end credits at least.) I've done that b4 where I listen to Elfman's main titles for the Burton films for fun. This ain't nothing special except for the autograph. IMO,there should've been music that they couldn't fit on some of the albums. Like POTA, for example. I remember Elfman said he wrote music for the war scene and Burton liked the " Ape suite #2 " (which was originally written for the album, b/c the music wasn't finished yet for the movie) better and played that with the scene instead. I'd ve liked to hear his original version of that scene and other stuff they couldn't fit on some of the albums. I guess we're never going to hear Elfman hum the Batman theme on tape recorder in the bathroom of an airplane. Oh well. At least the autograph will be worth it. Oh yeah I also notice they're using the original album edits of Sleepy Hollow and Big Fish main title. Instead of using the complete Main Title. That doesn't make sense. When I hear main titles I'd like to hear it in it's entirety. Not an edited version. (that really ticked me off about the Spider-man score album b/c the song album had the complete main title, but the scvore album didn't) They could've at least got that right. That's proof that this was really released for the autograph which was fine but if the autograph was the only thing special about the bonus disc . Then they could've had Elfman signed the certifcates or the book or the dvd. Sorry about this rant and whining. I'm still excited for Elfman's autograph and the box ,dvd, and book itself.Who would actually want a recording of Elfman humming? Would you actually listen to that over and over? This is a last minute bonus to compensate for production delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Who would actually want a recording of Elfman humming? Would you actually listen to that over and over? This is a last minute bonus to compensate for production delay.Well I know you wouldn't after all you only listen to albums 3-4 times and that's it. Anyways I was only suggesting something that's actually bonus material and not stuff that's in the box and on the original album releases. Besides I was partly joking. I know Elfman wouldn't want anybody hearing that recording. I'm just saying there could've been alot more thought put into this. It was only an excuse to get Elfman's autograph, which I'm fine with. But they could've had him sign the book, or dvd, or the certificate. If they wanted Elfman's autograph added to this. Save a thousand discs for something else unless it's more unreleased Elfman music from Burton's movies. Like the original Elfman POTA war cue I mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It looks like they've used the original album edits for everything.Which is asinine. We went through this with the Indiana Jones set, although with that I actually cared about it, and they also extended or changed some album tracks. Even the Star Wars Anthology, which was faithful to the original album edits, "fixed" and extended certain things. From what I understand, this set is like taking all the original CD issues (officially available for dirt cheap except Pee-Wee, the holy grail) and adding a few tracks and some bonus CDs. It actually comes off like a ridiculous scam for the price they demand.I was talking about the bonus CD, which appears to use album edits. That's got nothing to do with the price of the set.I assume the actual set has the original issues plus bonus tracks where needed, in which case, I see no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 So has anybody besides that one guy on FSM actually received their bonus disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 It appears FSM members are starting to receive their bonus discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yea I read that after I posted here. No one really has mentioned anything about the music or sound quality yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think most are mad at the contents. And MV, in my opinion, has pretty much confirmed more separate releases from the Elfman box.http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=74978&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=285#bottomAs well as some other goodies I expect to see from LaLaLand in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 My guess is that La La will continue working with Elfman on complete releases, but I can't imagine that they'll be able to get all of them out there. I think especially that rights issues w/ Disney would be sticky to work with re: Nightmare Before Christmas and Alice in Wonderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I would be a little upset if most of the contents of the Elfman/Burton box got superior releases from LLL. Not at anyone in particular - I applaud LLL for making these releases more accessible and I applaud WB for making this massive boxset...but I would be upset with the situation.indy4 - still waiting for his Bonus CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 This the main reason I didn't buy it. The LaLaLand Batman releases have more material, don't they? I expected some of these to be released separately, or already in the works by the various labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I would have bought it for $200 or so, but the $500 was crazy. I don't want or need that giant zoetrope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I agree with Jason. The set definitely is not worth $500 and there's no way the Batman material on the Elfman / Burton set is superior to LLL's. LLL's versions of those two scores are fully 100% complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I would have bought it for $200 or so, but the $500 was crazy. I don't want or need that giant zoetropeI agree with Jason. The set definitely is not worth $500 and there's no way the Batman material on the Elfman / Burton set is superior to LLL's. LLL's versions of those two scores are fully 100% complete. Not counting the fact 16 separate CD's of the same material would cost $320.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Nevermind, my Bonus CD arrived! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Lucky sonofa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I would be a little upset if most of the contents of the Elfman/Burton box got superior releases from LLL. Not at anyone in particular - I applaud LLL for making these releases more accessible and I applaud WB for making this massive boxset...but I would be upset with the situation.indy4 - still waiting for his Bonus CDChances are, they will. Musically, anyway. The ones that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Nevermind, my Bonus CD arrived!How's it sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm not the guy to ask about sound quality, so I really couldn't tell you. And the one CD that I'm told has the worst OST as far as sound quality goes - Pee Wee - is the one that I don't own. Sorry!I can say that the Suite is great, and the selection is good considering there was no new material. The Beetlejuice with Voiceover is almost identical to the original track, just a small little change in the very beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Interesting, people are putting their signed bonus discs up on eBay or trading them. I read some of that over at FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Got mine today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Interesting, people are putting their signed bonus discs up on eBay or trading them. I read some of that over at FSM.That's not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So when is the rapidshare premiere of this set? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If there's a line somewhere, you might have crossed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Listening to the bonus disc now... and wow, it sounds fantastic.The Beetlejuice title is the same, but instead of Harry Belafonte it's Elfman, and that just makes it more awesome than it already was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If there's a line somewhere, you might have crossed it.You can't cross a line that has been crossed before:So, is this thing up on Rapidshare already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Oh, no! I Horner-ized something again!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The dreaded transaction has resurfaced, completely negating my direct deposited paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 This set is cursed, I tell you.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I just want it done and paid for so I don't have to worry about it randomly showing up all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 If you pay for it like a couple of times, I'll send you my adress so you can give me one copy for my birthday.Karol - learning to name his needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Random thought... wonder how much the signed bonus disc fetches for? Maybe I could knock a couple hundred bucks off the total cost of this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 I think someone at FSM sold their copy for $300 + on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'm thinkg about selling mine too. I've already got a buyer for the USB, for $125, so if I made another $305 off this disc then the set would only cost a little over $100 for me, including shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I did a search earlier and they were going for around $150, with bids on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'm starting to get mildly excited about getting this soon. I really like the sound quality on the bonus disc. very full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah, it's fantastic. It means something when I can hear the difference Or maybe it just sounds better because I've been fasting Elfman ever since the box went up for pre-order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I thought Sleepy Hollow was considerably clearer. Beetlejuice was the other I thought greatly benefited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yep, Beetlejuice definitely sounds a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Great. Just got an e-mail. March 8 now. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 WHAT?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 March what year?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Haha. 3/8/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Got the same email from Amazon, but I'm glad for the delay. I'm playing for several musicals in February so I'll have some hefty pay checks, so I guess I won't have to cancel the order afterall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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