#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Marc, maybe you'll know.They are shooting The Hobbit in 3D right? Can forced perspective work in 3D? I mean the whole trick of forced perspective is that you play a trick on the viewer taking advantage of the fact that film is one-dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I haven't read any of the above posts, but I HATE 3D. I also think in five years this foolish hype will be all forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Something that lasts a decade is more than hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Marc, maybe you'll know.They are shooting The Hobbit in 3D right? Can forced perspective work in 3D? I mean the whole trick of forced perspective is that you play a trick on the viewer taking advantage of the fact that film is one-dimensional.Good question. I don't know. Maybe they'll have to do some post-production trickery for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Maybe they haven't a clue and they're just hoping for the best. I mean, I can't imagine they'd bother to do any research into it beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Marc, maybe you'll know.They are shooting The Hobbit in 3D right? Can forced perspective work in 3D? I mean the whole trick of forced perspective is that you play a trick on the viewer taking advantage of the fact that film is one-dimensional.If it is about static images, forced perspective will work as good or even better in 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,052 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 That's not true. If you've got a setup like in LOTR with two actors sitting at a table and one being a lot further away so he looks small like a hobbit, unmodified 3D will instantly give away the fact that the actor is just further away, not smaller. They'd have to digitally correct it so that they appear to be the same distance from the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 If anyone can find a way to make 3D work for these movies, it's PJ. I have faith.That being said, to avoid hypocriticizing my earlier comments, I'll still be watching them in 2D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tintin better be a good movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Spielberg and Jacko repeating what some of us already knew, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I guess some people did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 House of Wax, and Dial M for Murder are being released on Blu Ray 3D. Now if they'd do Creature from the Black Lagoon and the Mad Magician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 That's not true. If you've got a setup like in LOTR with two actors sitting at a table and one being a lot further away so he looks small like a hobbit, unmodified 3D will instantly give away the fact that the actor is just further away, not smaller. They'd have to digitally correct it so that they appear to be the same distance from the camera.Ah, yes. I was thinking more of static images like buildings etc.It’s not just a matter of mediocre films, either. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 made only 43% of its record opening weekend gross in 3D-equipped theaters–that despite the fact that 68% of the locations where it played showed it in 3D. People who went to that film in 2D surely didn’t assume it was mediocre. On the whole, it has been getting very favorable reviews, and HP fans would surely spend the extra few dollars if they really wanted to see it in 3D.I'm happy they realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I haven't read any of the above posts, but I HATE 3D. I also think in five years this foolish hype will be all forgotten.how wrong could you be. It's been around since the 50's. It might diminish but it won't be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I haven't read any of the above posts, but I HATE 3D. I also think in five years this foolish hype will be all forgotten.It won't. Given the $1B success of POTC 4 (shot in 3D) and the ongoing success of HP8 (post-converted 3D), it's going to stay a while longer.However, the upcoming 3D releases of The Hobbit and presumably the Avatar sequels is that they're being shot in a higher framerate that reduces strobing and makes 3D a lot easier on the eyes. But I saw the teaser for The Amazing Spider-Man in digital 3D, and none of the footage used (aside from the gimmicky POV shot) uses 3D well.If given a choice, 2D is definitely the better choice. If the movie is shot in 3D and the 3D is done well, then that's when I'll see a 3D show. A lot of post-conversion films don't use it effectively or hardly at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 And the the fact that you still need glasses is a big minus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,355 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I haven't read any of the above posts, but I HATE 3D. I also think in five years this foolish hype will be all forgotten.how wrong could you be. It's been around since the 50's. It might diminish but it won't be forgotten.See, the previous attempts already have been forgotten. In the end, we remember great movies, not some gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 48fps will most probably make or break 3D. My bet is that'll be the turning point where we see more (not all) detractors begin to approve of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Provided of course there will be enough venues capable of projecting at 48fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Yes. The profit incentive in the the run up to The Hobbit will play a major part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 48fbs seems far more interesting to me then 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Same. But I have a good idea what a skilled director could do with both and that interests me very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,715 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 And the the fact that you still need glasses is a big minus.That's one thing us glasses wearers aren't bothered about When I saw Toy Story 3 I think I considered buying some of those clip-ons; my only concern was that since my glasses aren't really that big, I might be able to see the double-vision in my peripheral vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The glasses do not bother me in the slightest. Other patrons are another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The glasses don't really bother me. Only when they aren't as clean as they should be. I wear glasses and I'm a bit obsessive about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I don't wear glasses in general but I do wear a pair for watching tv and going to the cinema, purely because things aren't as sharp as they should be the further away they are. The 3D glasses fit just fine over my other specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Provided of course there will be enough venues capable of projecting at 48fps.most digital projectors can project at 48fps, at least to what I just read on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I prefer the 3D experience. I don't see many movies in the theater so the extra cost doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 48fbs seems far more interesting to me then 3DI just wonder how it'll maintain that 'dreamlike' quality at a higher framerate. But since Jackson says that the 3D is much less eye-straining, it should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Are mirrors in 2D or 3D?Normal household mirrors I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,715 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 All they're doing is bouncing light, so they're 3D as well. Each eye is seeing something different.I found a few scenes in Avatar a bit uncomfortable, but it was due to the angles being separated wider; I don't think framerate was a problem.Concerning the poll, if the 3D choice is genuine 3D, then I'll go for that. I think of conversion as a last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 48fbs seems far more interesting to me then 3DI just wonder how it'll maintain that 'dreamlike' quality at a higher framerate. But since Jackson says that the 3D is much less eye-straining, it should be interesting.I'm sure whatever editing program they use, it will have a "fade image" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 If anything I should imagine the extra fps will actually enhance the "dreamlike quality". It'll initially be quite surreal and probably take some getting used to, but in a completely pleasurable fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,052 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 All they're doing is bouncing light, so they're 3D as well. Each eye is seeing something different.Yep. The image you see in a mirror is every bit as 3D as your view of the world around you, Steef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,715 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 And actually, if they weren't 3D, half the magic illusions in the world wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 The next Spy Kids movie will be in 4D. It will include a scratch 'n sniff sticker that contains scents from the film. Honestly, that would just distract me from the movie. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/spy-kids-4-will-feature-4d-aromascope-2303923.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Let's just hope the damn kids won't fart at some point in the film.This would be a funny comment, except that, if I recall, farting humor is popular in these films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 You don't find farts funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Back to the subject of 3D images, I saw DH2 in IMAX 3D as well as 2D. IMO, 3D was more immersive in this instance. It may be that IMAX is a particularly good venue for 3D.However, I don't really like wearing the glasses (I spent 25 years in glasses and I'm glad to be rid of them), and I don't like to give the studios extra money just because they slapped a cheap 3D conversion on top of a crappy movie. So for most movies, I prefer 2D. I don't like to reward such opportunism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,052 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I finally saw DH2 today, and although I saw it in 2D, I could very easily imagine how it would have looked in 3D. I find it interesting that something about the cinematography and ubiquitous digital projections is making a lot of new films look like they were intended to be seen in 3D. Rather hard to explain, but I've been noticing it more and more.And actually, if they weren't 3D, half the magic illusions in the world wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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