luke905 18 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 This is a fan trailer edited by me starting from HD videos available on the web (trailer and TV spots), assembled on the track "Sab Than Pursues the Princess" from the original soundtrack composed by Michael Giacchino.This is a working version that still lacks dialogues and sound effects (except in the first part).My purpose is not to create a story trailer, as was done skillfully by others, but rather to create an audio-visual editing that convey the fantasy-adventure essence of the Andrew Stanton's movie (feature totally absent from the trailer released by Disney in my opinion).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoJCEwN2A34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You've got a really fantastic idea there for a trailer. Might need some trimming down (at the end of the big jump, the moment of the cuts and the music feel a bit off).I love that you start going all out with action in the mode they usually use at the end of a trailer. Then, with the Thern music, you go ssh, and after establishing great action you give a sense of mystery and something going on. The moment with the jump, the fanfare, and the ending is great (I would use other clip instead of the rescuing moment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 people forget that even Scorsese's Hugo was a massive disaster and lost a ton of money. The case with Hugo was possibly worse because it was financed out of the studio system.Wrong. GK Films financed Hugo entirely, Paramount just distributed it. But its financial woes are nothing compared to JC's... at least Hugo found an audience throughout its theatrical run. Its international cume of $179M isn't breaking even on the $175M production budget (the studios only got half of it), but they're better off than Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke905 18 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 You've got a really fantastic idea there for a trailer. Might need some trimming down (at the end of the big jump, the moment of the cuts and the music feel a bit off).I love that you start going all out with action in the mode they usually use at the end of a trailer. Then, with the Thern music, you go ssh, and after establishing great action you give a sense of mystery and something going on. The moment with the jump, the fanfare, and the ending is great (I would use other clip instead of the rescuing moment). Thanks, you are extremely kind.I assembled it about a month before the film's release,with the available materials released at the time (two trailers and someTV commercials): unfortunately due to commitments I have not finished it,but I still decided to upload it on the web.I hope to create a final version when the movie comes out on Blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northwest21 0 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 He could be the next Jerry Goldsmith.I'm sure Jerry would have loved to have a $200 million movie, even if it did tank. Giacchino will be fine I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 He could be the next Jerry Goldsmith.I'm sure Jerry would have loved to have a $200 million movie, even if it did tank. Giacchino will be fine I suspect.Maybe you're right, Giacchino's career is too young after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 OK, I'm trying to gather every info we have on John Carter's cue list. So far, here's what I've found (the cues with slate numbers are from pictures from the recording sessions, the cues with no slate numbers are from ASCAP website): 1m1-1m2 Zodanga Happy To Meet You 1m6 Diary Of A Cavalry Man 1m10 Get Carter 1m11-1m12 Lozem Geyn/Sure Ain't Apache 2m16 Helium Is A-Gassed 2m17 Dejah's View 2m18-2m19 Dark Side Of Barsoom 3m21 Thark Nursery 3m26 Carter? I Barely Know Her! 3m27 I’m On Mars 3m28 Ins ??? 4m29 ??? 4m33 The River Iss 5m36 ??? 5M38 ??? 6M45 The Right Of Challenge 6m46 (Choir Overlay) ??? 6M47 The Fight For Helium 7m54 End Titles Part 5 Embalming Is A Non-Starter End Credits Of Mars (well, pretty self-explanatory) Escaping Strings Pt. 1 Escaping Strings Pt. 2 Future Prospects Hop, Snip And A Jump Iss Must Be The Place John Carter Of Mars Jumping John (Gravity Of The Situation?) Jumping The Thark Mars Sounds Much Better (Probably from the scene toward the end of the film, when John says "John Carter Of Mars sounds so much better") Not Afraid Of The Thark Rebranding Sola (The scene where Sola gets burned with the glowing iron?) Runaway Bride (Sab Than Pursues The Princess?) Sab Then Surrenders To Helium (Probably the cue right after Carter They Come, Carter They Fall) Smarmy Sarkoja Supplies And Demands Swimming With Tharks Thark Party (The source music for the Tharks party where John Carter kills one of them?) The Gates Of Iss Thern Threat (A Thern Warning?) Time To Go Home Torturous Drums (Probably the source music for the scene where Sola gets burned with the glowing iron) Welcome Back Carter Worlds Worst Nursery (Probably the cue for the scene where John gets all "cleaned up" by the Tharks) Probably for the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks (suggested by Miles Prower. And he's probably right...) Zodangan Proposal If anyone knows in which order the cues are supposed to be (or which scene there are referring to), please tell me so that I can update my post. I'll post the cue list in the Complete Cue Lists thread once we'll have put it (more or less) in the right order. Sources : https://www.ascap.co...arch/index.aspx http://yfrog.com/obmbafj http://twitter.com/m...9/photo/1/large http://moniquedonnel...01/img_6298.jpg http://www.marklevan...11/IMG_1067.jpg http://img542.images.../6m47helium.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I'm also trying to compile the cue list. I hope to finish it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 If you *really* squint at that cue sheet...1m01-1m02 Zodanga Happy to Meet You1m10 Get Carter2m17 Dejah's View3m26 - Carter? I Hardly Know Her!3m27 - I'm On MarsTorturous Drums is credited to Chris Tilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 World's Worst Nursery would probably be the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Thanks for the info, Jim. I updated the post.I also added a few slate numbers for some cues, which I missed on one of the pics I posted as a source (this one:http://yfrog.com/z/obmbafj)World's Worst Nursery would probably be the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks.So, this is either 1m13, 1m14 or 1m15 (or 2m13, 2m14 or 2m15)...Well, I think 1m13 (or 2m13) is probably Jumping John (Gravity Of The Situation), 1m14/2m14 is World's Worst Nursery and 1m15/2m15 is Jumping The Thark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 1m11-1m12 Lozem Geyn/Sure ???This is called 1M11/12 Lozem Geyn/Sure Ain't Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 OK, thanks for that, I updated my post.What's the source, though? Are you saying that based on the film (since they say something like that in that part of the film), or did you find that title somewhere else?P.S.: Note that I also added 7m54 End Titles Part 5, since I find this pic:http://moniquedonnelly.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/img_6298.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 OK, thanks for that, I updated my post.What's the source, though? Are you saying that based on the film (since they say something like that in that part of the film), or did you find that title somewhere else?P.S.: Note that I also added 7m54 End Titles Part 5, since I find this pic:http://moniquedonnel...01/img_6298.jpgThe quote appears in the film, when Carter enters in the cave first time, Powell says "This place sure ain't Apache". I also found the title on ASCAP site, but it's odd this no longer appears on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 So, does anyone has another source for cue titles or slate numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yes. I will reveal them all when I post my complete score analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 And what's your progression on that? 25% finished? 50%? 74,6%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 0% But now that vacation is over and we actually got some stuff done around the house I should have more free time to work on this kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Mmmmmokay. You better start right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 So... What's the status on your complete score analysis, LeBlanc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I wasn't able to take the vacation off from work I was hoping to take yet. Soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 You workaholic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 OK, I'm trying to gather every info we have on John Carter's cue list.I've found two new cue titles (with slate numbers):6m45 The Right of Challenge6m47 The Fight for HeliumSources:www.marklevan...11/IMG_1067.jpg (at 2:16)imageshack.us...6m47helium.png/ (Shot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Taylor Kitsch Says JOHN CARTER Sequel Script Was Awesome http://geektyrant.com/news/taylor-kitsch-says-john-carter-sequel-script-was-awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I saw that, and it only reminded me (sadly) that we (most likely) won't get to hear Giacchino return to these themes. John Carter is the only CD in my car, so I listen to it whenever I drive, and it's STILL a ridiculously enjoyable and fun listen...If Andrew Stanton is ever allowed to do another live action film, I hope he chooses Giacchino again. I think their collaboration worked wonderfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Agreed on all counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The sequels would have been called Gods of Mars and Warlord of Mars, according to Stanton.It might have been quite unexceptional, but I found John Carter to be an enjoyable film. I've seen it eariler this year and it definitely doesn't deserve its bad reputation. True, some of the acting is just serviceable, the story kind of repeats Avatar (or the other way around), but the film is quite well done. It feels like Star Wars meeting the old clunky Hollywood costumes dramas. It's very old-fashioned. I'm sure the audience will eventually embrace it.Karol fommes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 the story kind of repeats Avatar (or the other way around)Trust me, it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I liked John Carter more than Avatar anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Oh me too, no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I started this the other evening but it was too late and I had to switch it off. Seemed... watchable. Wasn't into The Mummy tone, though. Does it get better?Gia's music was a bit irritating, but perhaps that improves further in too (I only watched it upto the part where the daughter finds out she's to be married off as part of peace deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 I'd say the tone and the music is pretty consistent throughout the whole movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's a shame. Was never a fan of The Mummy movies or that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The Mummy? Where?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Are you blind? John Carter in the civil war and when he's bounding across the Martian surface felt very much like a Brendan Frasier action movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Never crossed my mind. It felt more like Ben-Hur in space or something like that. 1960's epic.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 It never felt like Ben-Hur to me. Maybe with some of the costumes, but not even close in scale or tone.I would liken it more to The Mummy myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 No, not to me.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 neither to me.It's a superhero, who comes from the far west that enters in a sci-fi world.Not mummy AT ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Never crossed my mind. It felt more like Ben-Hur in space or something like that. 1960's epic.KarolLOL, really? -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cool, so some other studio could buy the rights and make a sequel film if they wanted to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well, it doesn't have to technically be a sequel, but it would be, ya know? What I mean is, say they just adapt another one of the books he wrote, using all the same cast and stuff. There'd be nothing wrong with doing that.Kinda like how they made a third Narnia film with the same cast after Disney dropped that franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The difference being that the first two Narnia movies made some money, and John Carter tanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karelm 2,914 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A Look At The John Carter That Never WasA decade ago Kerry Conran was going to direct an adaptation of Edgar Rice Burrough's John Carter of Mars for Paramount. Jon Favreau was on it for a while too before the rights lapses and it ended up at Disney and they made a vastly overhated feature that, even though I liked it, was still something of a whiff.Even typing the name Kerry Conran gives me a shot of internet nostalgia. The director of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow has all but disappeared, having released a short in 2012 but having done nothing else (according to IMDB) since about 2004. I guess those Sky Captain residuals are treating him better than I would have expected. Harry Knowles, who was a producer on this failed version of John Carter of Mars, has uploaded a higher res version of Conran's demo reel for the movie. It's been online before, but in murky quality, and this gives you a good look at just what Conran's thinking was back in the day. I think that his designs are great, although there's no guarantee those designs would have survived intact to the final film. And really the reel doesn't tell us how the movie would have worked, narratively as a whole. It's still a neat bit of ephemera; I think that what happened to John Carter is a travesty and that we should be living in a world where there are multiple sequels - John Carter and the Gods of Mars, John Carter and the Sword of Mars, John Carter the Warlord of Mars - and we're all super excited about the Burroughsverse. Now that looked and sounded great! They should put it on kickstarter, raise a billion dollars, and go make it without any studio meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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