indy4 155 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Listen to 1:46 of Mozart's Ave Verum Corpus, and compare it to 2:46 of "To Die For." And please, before anybody accuses me of stalking Hans Zimmer, know that I like the man as a composer, and The Lion King is one of my favorites. Just thought this was interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8599NL4_zY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Wow, I already knew that Zimmer is the next Mozart, here is the proof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Yep, when I first saw The Lion King back then, I noticed the similarity. That scene is still heartbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0hawk 1 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Yeah, definitely a reference. But really, considering the quality of the entire score, Zimmer is easily forgiven. "To Die For" is one of those cues that, when listened to outside of the movie, triggers off such a devastating emotional reaction. Does this happen to anyone else? CapitalJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Absolutely. It's a beautiful marriage of film and score... And the theme from 3:20 (don't know the score well enough to give it a name... but it's my favourite from the film) is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Did I step into the wrong forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Zimmer is the hope, and the light,and the goodness of this earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Absolutely. It's a beautiful marriage of film and score... And the theme from 3:20 (don't know the score well enough to give it a name... but it's my favourite from the film) is incredible.Interestingly, I recently noticed that if you take away the third note of that theme (the pickup) it is the first 4 pitches of Dies Irae. I'm also not familiar enough with the film to label the theme, but it sounds like it could be a theme for Mufasa or Mufasa's death, which would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Yeah, The Lion King also has some nice Morricone and Wagner influences.My favorite score of Hansy. I wish modern animated films would allow for more scores like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Yep, when I first saw The Lion King back then, I noticed the similarity. That scene is still heartbreaking.I've always been aware of it. I recently watched the movie though and noticed that it's less of a clone than I had remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 1 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Don`t even compare zimmer with mozart!1,zimmer isn`t no where near genius of mozart and just slightly different composers lol.personaly don`t see what people see in zimmer`s music really can`t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 1 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 sorry my typing is poor lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You've got to be joking, BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 1 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 oh bugger ! see what you mean,meant to say don`t see what people see i zimmers music. lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 HA hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA , Hilarious you guys have finally lost your mind Boua haaa haaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI'm sorry no really....seriously??? The one note guy for Batman The Dark Night???? Really??? The one big brass block chord at inception???I mean really, you compare him to Mozart??? These two names should never NEVEE be typed at the same sentence.But, thanks, I haven't laughed so much in a loooong time, cheers mate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 These two names should never NEVEE be typed at the same sentence.It's not necessarily related to talent when one composer lifts, to whatever extent, a theme from another. But as I said, while Zimmer's theme is clearly very close and probably based on Mozart's, it's actually different enough to stand on its own. And it's not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Mozart IS the next Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I mean really, you compare him to Mozart???No-one was comparing him. Someone was just pointing out a curious similarity in two musical excerpts.Seriously dude, there's no need to be an ass. I'm allowed to like Zimmer and Mozart. Hell, I'm allowed to like Zimmer and NOT Mozart, and that says nothing about myself as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 To be clear, I was laughing because STORM didn't even realize what BloodBoal did.Zimmer is clearly better than Mozart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Oh I was mainly referring to Salacius, not the BB/Storm thing (that was funny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't see any resemblence, there's a choir and some common chord progression. They are both dramatic pieces of music, then those things happen. It's just coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I highly doubt it. Zimmer is a confessed Mozart lover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I highly doubt it. Zimmer is a confessed Mozart lover.Why not? He's a great fan of classical music in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Err, yes? My doubts were in regards to MSM's belief that the similarity was a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Err, yes? My doubts were in regards to MSM's belief that the similarity was a coincidence.Oh, sorry. I read the exact opposite. That Zimmer wasn't a Mozart fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 i did thats why the lol! but did`nt notice it straightaway!,was amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 i did thats why the lol! but did`nt notice it straightaway!,was amusing.You wrote it correctly; BloodBoal changed your post when he quoted you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Yeah, never trust BloodyBoal, he is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqueslux 0 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Wow... So I was not the only one who noticed the similarities;)But what do you think about this: Compare the part from 1:10-1:24 to the main theme of Mozart's Lacrimosa (from the Requiem (KV 626))? I found the two parts already quite similar when I was a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Zimmer's problem is too many notes, as in more than zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You can never have too many notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Joey, about your signature: is that an actual quote of Michael G. ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Joey, about your signature: is that an actual quote of Michael G. ...?I don't know, I can't see my sig.Nor can I find how to make it visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Of course it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You can never have too many notes! btw, tell your brother (??) to not exclude us non-us residents from participating in CD giveaway contests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Joey, about your signature: is that an actual quote of Michael G. ...?I don't know, I can't see my sig.Nor can I find how to make it visible.Click on your own screen name in the upper right corner. Choose "My Settings" from the dropdown. Uncheck "Ignore all signatures when reading topics". Click Save Changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 You can never have too many notes! btw, tell your brother (??) to not exclude us non-us residents from participating in CD giveaway contests You tell him Mention it in the e-mail and offer to pay the few dollars for shipping if you win or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 HA hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA , Hilarious you guys have finally lost your mind Boua haaa haaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI'm sorry no really....seriously???The one note guy for Batman The Dark Night???? Really???The one big brass block chord at inception???I mean really, you compare him to Mozart???These two names should never NEVEE be typed at the same sentence.But, thanks, I haven't laughed so much in a loooong time, cheers mate!!I'm glad you're gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Mozart would have laughed hysterically at the works of Herrmann, North, Williams and Goldsmith.But I have no doubt he would have embraced Zimmer as his successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 They could both bond over being laughed at by their contemporaries for writing kiddy music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 HA hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA , Hilarious you guys have finally lost your mind Boua haaa haaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI'm sorry no really....seriously???The one note guy for Batman The Dark Night???? Really???The one big brass block chord at inception???I mean really, you compare him to Mozart???These two names should never NEVEE be typed at the same sentence.But, thanks, I haven't laughed so much in a loooong time, cheers mate!! I'm glad you're gone.He wasn't wrong though. Even you must see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Do you believe this board's biggest Hans Zimmer's cheerleader can be persuaded of his obvious inferiority as a composer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Inferiority....compared to Mozart!Surely even he must see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 TGP, among many others, has become mesmerised by Zimmer's button mashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Pretty hypocritical of Salacius, to leave a forum because people joked about Williams, while spouting hate about Zimmer while here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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