Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It's loud and yet doesn't it seem mixed differently than usual? It sounds much more organic, without a hyped up bass.Yeah, if this is the equivalent of Oil Rig for this score, that is, as patience-testing as the score gets, then we're in very good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah, I agree. I think the prominent organ and lack of significant brass really helps. And the way he's mixed his low woodwinds pretty high up gives that Glass vibe to it, which is what I'm digging right now. Or is that all in my head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 No I think you're right on.As a side note, I've had that little piano line from the teaser in my head for almost a year now, wondering what would come of it, if anything, and finally hearing it in another context, developed, gave me instant goosebumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah, I didn't think much of the melody when I first watched the teaser (thought it's grown on me quite a bit as the year passed). But hearing it in a different setting really gives it some real substance.Was the teaser piece what Zimmer wrote when Nolan asked for a piece about the father/daughter relationship before he started production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm not sure. I got the impression that was only part of it, but maybe it was just those couple minutes.So about these themes, this is what I've read.... The teaser (excluding that piano line) is like the musical "frame" for the film, opening and closing it, and appearing throughout in other variations. The IMAX theme is sort of the "adventure" or "wonder" theme or whatever you want to call it. And now this latest is a theme for bad goings-on. Yeah I'm going to be entering a delirium of anticipation and then rapture over the next few days. I won't subject this forum to any more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wrong thread. Bitching about the film goes in the film thread. Bitching about the score will go here.Acceptable posts for this thread:WHY IS THERE NO JEWEL CASE RELEASE?WHY IS THIS $40????!!!WHY IS THE COMPOSITION AND COLOR OF THE COVER SO SUB-PAR??WHY DO I CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AND LISTEN TO SCORES BY THIS GUY I HAVE AN IRRATIONAL HATRED FOR???If you think I'm going to listen to this deliberately, you are sadly mistaken. And it's hardly irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Found it! Just clicked play Oh?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The track is available on soundclud.It's pretty intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Colour me intrigued. This one track sounds better than the entire Batman trilogy, that's for sure.Karol Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wouldn't mind another good Zimmer score. Is this a harmonic effort, or is he still in Batman mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just listen to the track.And no, it's far from Batman. Apparently, Zimmer is tired of that sound. That's what he said.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It took him a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What do you think, Chaac? About this new music?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm seeing references to it but I don't know where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Here:The track is available on soundclud.It's pretty intriguing.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 well it was availableI did like listening to it while I could, wonder if this is one of those extra tracks on the 2CD feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Not a fan of that track. Starts out rather dull for me, and I'm not sure about the organ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I didn't post it Karol, because then I'd just speed up its removal from the web. And like TGP said, if this is the score's equivalent to Oil Rig, then I think its safe to say we'll be getting something quite good this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm all for actually paying for music and giving the composers their due. I don't want people stealing my music either. But when the studios pull this sort of double or triple dip shit, it's hard to feel so terribly moral about collecting the loose ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'll buy this album too. Just need more data to decide which version.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The box set seems to have everything available on the other versions and then some, barring these stray promotional cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Am I imagining it or is there a hefty dose of Dies Irae in there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What I need to know, though, is whether this makes a good album.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think the OST will have a solid presentation, but the box set might be a bit excessive. I guess I'll see based on what we hear in film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah five days left!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Am I imagining it or is there a hefty dose of Dies Irae in there as well?Think you're imagining it. The main motif has a similar sort of minor mode stepwise motion, but it remains its own thing, thankfully. Yeah five days left!KarolTwo and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm banning myself from message board, Twitter and FB for those three days then.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah five days left!KarolTwo and a half. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm banning myself from message board, Twitter and FB for those three days then.KarolGood plan. I vaguely read something extremely significant yesterday that I definitely did not want to read and now I'm considering lobotomization to rectify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Here:The track is available on soundclud.It's pretty intriguing.KarolIt's interesting. I like how the organ enters. Then it gets a more boring towards the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I actually like the 'boring' bit (i.e. the choir clusters). Is that sound of the choir singing into a piano(s) with the sustain pedal down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe. I do hear a lot of low piano cluster business happening. And I think at least part of the "pulse" is a carillon. Very neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Clusters? Where? In the beginning?EDIT: Nvm, I see what you're referring to. Yeah, I actually really like the opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I know that for the BRAAAAM BRAAAAM low Ds in INCEPTION, Hans had the brass players in church, and got them play directly into the strings of a piano, with a book on the sustain pedal. I know how his experimental mind works -- he probably wanted to try the same effect with voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What do you mean by playing directly into the strings? Like directing the sound into the piano? Or playing with an open piano in the center of the seating arrangement or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 That's a grand piano with the lid open and strings exposed.The brass players simply stand around the piano (which would be mic'd - both close and ambient) from various distances, and direct their bells at it. Likewise with singers.It's a avant-garde technique that comes from spatial music. The exploring the natural resonances of instruments and how spaces distorts what we hear. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hmmmmmmmmm.I can't wait for some insights into this score from the man himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Very cool! That probably explains a lot of the reverb and resonance you hear with the choral clusters. I wish we got to see some footage of such sessions.Considering the amount of sessions Interstellar had, I'm guessing there was a lot more of that kind of similar experimentation with this score. Especially with the organ and use of the big church space acoustics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I was at a friend's house and he played that track, and I told him that I thought it was fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 That's a grand piano with the lid open and strings exposed.The brass players simply stand around the piano (which would be mic'd - both close and ambient) from various distances, and direct their bells at it. Likewise with singers.It's a avant-garde technique that comes from spatial music. The exploring the natural resonances of instruments and how spaces distorts what we hear.Trickery that Zimmer had to employ because he isnt able to just compose a normal score like many of his peers. So he has to resort to gimmicks like this to try and sound unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 You can twist any composers work negatively cant you? Sharkissimo and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 No, not the good ones like Williams, Goldsmith, Horner, Herrmann, Poledouris, Silvestri, Kamen etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 New track sounds pretty good. Sounds a lot much organic than I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 That's a grand piano with the lid open and strings exposed.The brass players simply stand around the piano (which would be mic'd - both close and ambient) from various distances, and direct their bells at it. Likewise with singers.It's a avant-garde technique that comes from spatial music. The exploring the natural resonances of instruments and how spaces distorts what we hear.Trickery that Zimmer had to employ because he isnt able to just compose a normal score like many of his peers. So he has to resort to gimmicks like this to try and sound unique.You are painfully clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Says the man who describes the E.T. score as boring!What are you still doing here, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 E.T. is boring. It's got big schmaltzy tunes that appeal to witless posers like yourself, which would be fine if you didn't take that astonishing ignorance to the next level by being such a critical prick about people who want to think about music, the theory behind it, and experiment with it.If that seems like an overreaction just consider it a response to the numerous times that you've taken your quasi-superior position against people who can't just "enjoy the music". Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Classic Savas circa 2008.I'm going to assume you're being facetious in regards to Williams' ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Of course. To a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hans himself would probably be the first to say he could only ever dream of writing a score of ET's calibre, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Does that mean I have to be an unqualified fan of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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