BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I don't know which part you're referring to in your PS?Anyway, the helicopter sequence was the best edge of your seat moment in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ah, gotcha!Yea, it was crazy that Beck was alright, with his face exposed to the wind and apparently no gloves (?), and yet Rob, the expert hiker by a wall for wind protection, didn't.Did you see it in IMAX, btw? It was spectacular in that format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ditto.Also: The score by Marianelli was about as generic as it gets, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So? the worst score since Gravity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Not even close! Gravity's score hurt the film; That film would have been better without it.In Everest, it didn't hurt the film at all, and probably improved it - it was simply nothing that would compel you to listen to it on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It's a bit of a run-of-the-mill score, but for these kind of films, it could be a lot worse. I'd classify it as generic by Marianelli's standards, but come on, thrillers of this nature usually get blander sonic wallpaper. And there are definitely some nice moments on album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Is Marianelli like Desplat? Decent when doing smaller, eclectic works, but unable to manage a big budget film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 By big-budget, do you mean bigger-scale films other than dramas? Because scores like V for Vendetta, Agora and Brothers Grimm beg otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Those are hardly blockbuster films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 No, they're not really. Though I think genre and scope are more contributing factors than how much money the film makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I imagine this is why his Pan score was rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I imagine Pan would have been written in the vein of his score for Brothers Grimm, which is wonderful stuff. But the elegant European classicism probably made the producers nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Grimm? You mean the Basic Instinct rip-off score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Meh, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He ripped of the theme. Pretty shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Grimm? You mean the Basic Instinct rip-off score?Hollow Man, no? (And Brahms)(Disclaimer, just in case I'm wrong: It's been years since I listened to it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not even close! Gravity's score hurt the film; That film would have been better without it.No! Just no! While at points it's overbearing, it has some fantastic moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ive only heard it in the film, and why I don't dislike it as much as Jason did, I found it very mediocre.Was that Space Silent version ever released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes, on the Diamond Luxe blu-ray release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I thought the Gravity soundtrack was very effective indeed. Wouldn't touch an album with a bargepole, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So much negativity towards the score!I loved it since I first heard it. But I'm also loving The Martian, so I guess electronica-based scores are my thing (to an extent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Was that Space Silent version ever released?You know it was!http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23597&p=1101041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Okay, based on most of the comments in that thread: does anyone except me like the score? (Koray probably does too).I've never before read so much support for removing a score entirely from a film. Even Zimmer doesn't get that honour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The score is fairly popular among modern film score fans. A lot of people like the finale cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The finale cue is indeed awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Okay, based on most of the comments in that thread: does anyone except me like the score? (Koray probably does too).I've never before read so much support for removing a score entirely from a film. Even Zimmer doesn't get that honour!I like the score. I don't think it works as well on album than it does in the film, but it's very effective and complements the visuals perfectly. I don't really see the hostility towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's distractingly generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 SicarioWhat a powerhouse of tension and dread. The arresting camerawork and Deakins' cinematography keep you latched onto every frame, with Johannsson's pulsing underscore tying it all together. I'm very interested in checking out Villeneuve's other films now. This is very much his film, where an okay script with good performances is turned great by the direction. Really stunning aerial shots, with a thick mood that doesn't give the audience a moment to rest or breathe. It's like True Detective: The Movie, for those who might not be familiar with what it's about. I personally went in blind, not having even seen the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Okay, based on most of the comments in that thread: does anyone except me like the score? (Koray probably does too).I've never before read so much support for removing a score entirely from a film. Even Zimmer doesn't get that honour!I already just said I thought it was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I don't recall having any serious issues with the score until the last cue. Seemed out of place. Though I quite enjoy the final cue as a standalone piece of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sicario I personally went in blind, not having even seen the trailer. Then why did you want to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Good reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sicario I personally went in blind, not having even seen the trailer. Then why did you want to see it?Word of mouth. Having gone back to watch it, the trailer completely ruins everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Avengers: Age Of UltronLike most sequels this film is bigger. And bigger usually isnt better.There seems to be more of everything. More characters, more plot, more robot baddies which are easily disposed off. More action, more CGI.The Avengers from 3 years ago somehow got the recipe just right. The story was quite basic, even simplistic maybe. But it served it's purpose of getting the characters together, and giving them an adversary.Age Of Ultron has a more intricate story, but in a film with so many things going on, it's intricacy if often glossed over. Even when I watched it in the cinema, I could practically feel the deleted scenes.Whedon's direction is much the same. Plenty of visual eye-candy, which still doesnt make him come off as a great visual storyteller. His strength lies in characters and snappy dialogue, which this film has plenty.The special effects are, like most Marvel films, technically flawless, yet sterile at the same time.Worst of all is Ultron.James Spader is effective with his typically oily, sneering voice. But the design of Ultron is incredibly bland. It's just another big fucking robot. Any menace the character has (which isnt enough) comes from Spader. Even Whedon's script at times works against this.Whedon's villains are usually a bit too self-aware and self mocking to be truly terrifying.The score for the first film was quite up front. But for this one they really buried it in the mix. Really the only moments that stood out were the ones harvested from the first score, and a scant few statements of Elfman's theme.Like most Marvel films it's a giant tasty hamburger, you dive into it, gorge it down, get really full really fast, but a few hours later you are hungry again. I had a double cheeseburger XXL from Burger King yesterday which felt exactly like Age Of Ultron.So all in all it's fine. But The Avengers was a film that became just a little bit more then the sum of it's parts. This one doesnt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,361 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Martian - yes, it's probably Ridley Scott's best for a while; it's often amusing, the Mars vistas are often stunning and the effects are impeccable. But you're never really in any doubt that Damon will be rescued, so the attempts at 'jeopardy' feel a little hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Okay, based on most of the comments in that thread: does anyone except me like the score? (Koray probably does too).I've never before read so much support for removing a score entirely from a film. Even Zimmer doesn't get that honour!I thought it mostly worked really well, but the final cue was for a different film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yes, on the Diamond Luxe blu-ray release.Sadly the silent space version is only available in lossy 5.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Lossy 5.1 sounds just fine! We never complained when all our DVDs had that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The MartianThere are many reasons why I love Apollo 13. Aside from being a great movie on its own terms, from a technical standpoint, acting, music, direction, etc, it also doesn't talk down to its audience when it comes to scientific inquiry and human intelligence. The Martian reminded me of my love for Apollo 13. It works on the basis of its scientific seriousness and the determination of its characters to solve problems.The movie also works due in no small part because of Matt Damon. He's anchors the entire production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The Martian. What a giant piece of turd. Nothing works in this thing. Fuck you, Ridley Scott.Sorry about the language but I really hated it. Like, from start to finish.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 It's for engineers only. And probably for future NASA recruitment programs. Aside from that it's an awful waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The Martian. What a giant piece of turd. Nothing works in this thing. Fuck you, Ridley Scott.Sorry about the language but I really hated it. Like, from start to finish.KarolSeriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yup.Sicario is coming out on Friday. Might try that.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The Martian. What a giant piece of turd. Nothing works in this thing. Fuck you, Ridley Scott.Sorry about the language but I really hated it. Like, from start to finish.KarolWant to elaborate a bit? I wasn't terribly fond of it but I didn't exactly hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The Martian. What a giant piece of turd. Nothing works in this thing. Fuck you, Ridley Scott.Sorry about the language but I really hated it. Like, from start to finish.KarolWant to elaborate a bit? I wasn't terribly fond of it but I didn't exactly hate it.OK few things then:It's basically a 1990's cheesy action cinema. The type of thing Michael Bay would make back in the day.Writing is horrendously bad. Characters describing exactly what we can see on screen. Literally everything spelled out. It's unbearable. Besides, every single line from the great book of movie cliches is present.Not a single character is bothered about Matt Damon. Not even Matt Damon. Which means no tension whatsoever.There are two dozens of characters I don't care about. Why? Because I don't get to know them, other than because of a few lines of dialogue or some random slapstick comedy.Tone of this thing just feels all over the place.It's way too long. I had an actual bumache. But that could be from hemorrhoids...I could treat it as a parody of a blockbuster from a different era of filmmaking. But that doesn't really say much...Given that I had the same type of reaction to Prometheus (even though it's a different type of film), I might be allergic to Ridley Scott.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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