Temple Raider 3 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The Temple Of Doom talk in the Indy ranking thread of mine got me thinking about other underrated movie sequels and prequels that you find underrated and get undeserved hate and flack, which can you think of? They don't have to be as good as the firsts or better, just simply good sequels/prequels you think get the short end of the stick and don't deserve it. Some I find really underrated and enjoy a lot:Ghostbusters IIIndiana Jones And The Temple Of DoomPredator 2Jaws 2Iron Man 2Die Hard 2RoboCop 2Batman ReturnsTo name several. I always really enjoyed these and am often baffled at the poor reception they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 SW prequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,651 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Temple of DoomThe Phantom Menace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 BILLION DOLLAR BRAINROBOCOP 2MAGNUM FORCEESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APESTHE FRENCH CONNECTION 2INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADEBATMAN RETURNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,651 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Why didn't John Williams return for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Batman ReturnsTemple of Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Why didn't John Williams return for this?The producers wanted more of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,334 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Back to the Future II and IIIThe Godfather III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I always felt The Two Jakes was underrated. Most people forget it exists, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The Lost World: Jurassic Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADECrusade gets a lot of love though, and it's not uncommon for people to cite it as their favorite or at least the second best after Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't think it's an overstatement to say that The Last Crusade's underratedness is highly overrated. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'd definitely have to vote Predator 2, most people seem to basically pretend it never existed bit I think it's really quite good! Infinitely better than Predators, for sure! Jim Ware 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The Godfather IIIDefinitely. Can't believe I left this one out.Also:ALIEN RESURRECTION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,334 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 While it's hard to argue that it's anything but a distant third in the trilogy, it's a completely worthy finale with some all-time great scenes and memorable images, Michael's confession and the entire opera sequence chief among them. There's so much haunting and beautiful stuff in there and it was 100% worth making just to witness Al Pacino bringing that perfectly realized character to his third act. We all know Francis did it for the money but it doesn't feel that way to me. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The Dark Knight Rises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,651 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The Dark Knight Rises is currently #51 on the IMDB Top 250, with an 88% on RT. It's not underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't particularly care about how things are rated on this or that site. I'm going by what I see people say about films around the internet.I also don't particularly believe in the concept of "overrated/underrated" anyway, as it's just a sly way of suggesting that you have a privileged viewpoint and that everyone else feels wrongly about things. One's opinion is not an absolute standard against which to measure the validity of everyone else's.A quick gander at the Urban Dictionary yields apt results.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Overrated&defid=541873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I can follow Godfathers 1 and 2 reasonably well, but hardly anything in Part III makes any goddamn sense. And loud, flamboyant Al is just wrong for Michael. He didn't even seem like the same guy anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Home Alone 3Weekend At Bernie's 2Gremlins 2: The New Batch... and I'm serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADEIt's only underrated on JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Gremlins 2: The New BatchI almost mentioned this, but Gremlins 2 is pretty well-liked and I've seen very few who dislike it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That was the one with the flying Gremlin making the Batman insignia in Christopher Lee's lab, Jerry Goldsmith and Phoebe Cates with a bob hairstyle, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The Dark Knight RisesI have never wanted a movie to be over as quickly as this one. It was so arduous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 See, I knew it was underrated. Ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 That was the one with the flying Gremlin making the Batman insignia in Christopher Lee's lab, Jerry Goldsmith and Phoebe Cates with a bob hairstyle, right?Indeed it is. I've always loved it myself, even moreso than the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 But TDKR is my favourite! It isn't as corny as BB and isn't as self-important as TDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It isn't as corny as BBOy! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't think Gremlins 2 is underrated, I think it's pretty universally loved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 No. Not universally. There are people who dont "get" the film. Which in many ways is a parody of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADEIt's only underrated on JWFan.I sort of meant that Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I still think it was bold of Nolan to portray the Bats in the way he did. He's a man, not a superman. I enjoyed TDKR more than TDK but I've only seen it once so I still can change my mind about it. I don't really care for Batman in TDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I enjoyed TDKR more than TDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I enjoyed TDKR more than TDK I did too, even though I'm not a fan of either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Our favorite is Batman Begins, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I think BB and TDK are both great, and TDKR was a boring mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 That's certainly a unique point of view. Most people and Nolanites think it's not as good as TDK but it's still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I think you're wrong there. I think most people think TDKR sucks. Just read the threadhttp://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Go to Nolanites.com, IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes to learn about the real world, Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why do I care what critics think?Everyone I know in real life was massively disappointed by TDKR, myself included. The first two films where so good, the concluding chapter was a huge disappointment. Long, boring, repetitive, uninteresting, Batman's barely in it, cast doesn't seem interested, villain was boring, surprise twist wasn't surprising or exciting, just a mess. I'm glad Nolan is moving on to other projects and not sticking in this universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Everyone I know in real life was massively disappointed by TDKR, myself included. You and your friends again? You know, there's a reason why they are your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yea, we recognize shitty movies when we see them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 That's news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,042 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Alex kind of liked the film, if I remember correctly. So did Stefan. Joey too, I think. I like it, too. It has its weakness, certainly, but, for the most part, it's a sound film - I like that Batman is past its prime in it (it's a bold move). And it's also absolutely massive one and it feels like it - the location shooting, practical effects definitely sell it as a proper Hollywood extravaganza, not CG Marvel or The Hobbit type of thing, but the real thing. It feels like a FILM. It all does matter. If anything film had a mixed reaction, but got 88% on RT and made more money than TDK worldwide. And it would have made more in America if not for that tragedy. But then, $448,139,099 is shitloads anyway.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'll give it another chance someday for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,042 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Try to watch them as a trilogy, one after the other. I can promise it'll make more sense. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,469 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I never said it didn't make sense, just that it wasn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Most of the qualms I had with it initially, all very minor, disappeared by the second or third viewing. I think the biggest issue it faced had nothing to do with the film itself: peoples' expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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