Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 a very well-made adaptation by a talented musicianor:John Williams on a bad day.Yeah, I really hope that this was just the work of some nameless trailer music composer and that the first real glimpse of John Williams' score will be more outwardly impressive.On an unrelated note, was the teaser #2 music ever officially confirmed as Williams'? Other than the brass interlude in the middle, it didn't really feel like his music to me. The orchestral crescendo at the end especially didn't sound quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Tbh that whole thing with the lightsabers turning on in time with the music came across a bit kitsch...I think you might not like Star Wars. Or John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 To me--and I have zero inside info--it sounds a lot like JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I realise that every second of music at this point is like a few precious gasps of air in a sunken and flooded ship but do we really have enough in this 15 seconds to start questioning whether we have Williams on a bad day? Lets not judge it yet. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Tbh that whole thing with the lightsabers turning on in time with the music came across a bit kitsch...I think you might not like Star Wars. Or John Williams.Regarding Star Wars, I like it and am excited for it, but not to the point of "pre-cum"(???)... I'm a bit of a realist/pessimist and can't escape the thought that it will be a let-down in the end. As for John Williams, he's dreadful. In fact, I don't even know what I'm doing on here.In all seriousness though, those horns at the beginning were most PROBABLY not put there by Williams. For a man who puts effort into considering the number of violins in different divisi parts to get the right sound, I can't believe he would just slam marcato horns in the mid-register then decrease their volume by 90% in the final mix. That's terrible orchestral writing. So I think there's definitely some outward influence here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'm glad Star Wars doesn't make you pre-cum. That would be weird. Saying it, though, that's less weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Speaking of pre-cum, I love your new avatar Woj. Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I don't even know what I'm doing on here.My point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Tbh that whole thing with the lightsabers turning on in time with the music came across a bit kitsch...I think you might not like Star Wars. Or John Williams.Regarding Star Wars, I like it and am excited for it, but not to the point of "pre-cum"(???)... I'm a bit of a realist/pessimist and can't escape the thought that it will be a let-down in the end. As for John Williams, he's dreadful. In fact, I don't even know what I'm doing on here.In all seriousness though, those horns at the beginning were most PROBABLY not put there by Williams. For a man who puts effort into considering the number of violins in different divisi parts to get the right sound, I can't believe he would just slam marcato horns in the mid-register then decrease their volume by 90% in the final mix. That's terrible orchestral writing. So I think there's definitely some outward influence here.I found it pretty obvious that there was a lot of digital tinkering going on with the music just to give it shape for a 15 second Instagram pic. I don't think the actual piece will sound much like it does here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I found it pretty obvious that there was a lot of digital tinkering going on with the music just to give it shape for a 15 second Instagram pic. I don't think the actual piece will sound much like it does here at all.Yes, but I don't believe that all the instruments you hear in there were written by Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wish I had inside information and no NDA, or any musical knowhow whatsoever, so I could join in the chorus of expert opinions about these 15 seconds. Alas. I only know what's epic and what's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hey guys, I wrote this music for the TV spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 What a dickish thing to say about someone's hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GRIGA01 32 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Personally i don't think JW will do a re-arrangement of the imperial march as simple as this. I believe he will blend a feel of it into the first order theme very much like he did for Anakin's theme, were it was a complete new piece, with just the odd reference blended into the new theme. It definitely is a rethinking of the imperial march but i find it to obvious and simple for JW to have written. Especially the end crescendo, it feels edited to fit the end of the 15seconds, not a natural crescendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's missing the woodwinds flourishes Williams would put at the end, but could be due to horrible fade out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's unlikely that the Imperial March will have any serious presence in the film or score, and it's being used in the TV spot strictly for nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's unlikely that the Imperial March will have any serious presence in the film or score, and it's being used in the TV spot strictly for nostalgia. This is what I'm hoping for. Williams is talented enough to compose an entirely new theme for the First Order without rehashing the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wonder if he is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wonder if he is.... He is. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Can someone change the thread title? It has a spoiler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wonder if he is.... He is. But that's so... you know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Has this been posted, yet?https://www.facebook.com/OrphanMusicServicesMaking this sith happen - Orphan & Felix Erskine beyond stoked to have contributed music to the latest SW:TFA teaser bowing on the popular-with-the-kids Instagram platform today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 These guys sure liking mentioning their participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 While not specifically saying what they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aj_vader 534 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if the new First Order music did more than just hint at The Imperial March due to them being a carbon copy of the Empire and seeing Darth Vader as a martyr. (going off what JJ has been saying in interviews.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Mark my words: we'll get a choral rendition of the Imperial March in the film.What makes you think so? (i'd love it btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 That would be sweeeeeeeeeet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,319 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm reliably informed that William's March of the First Order contains, and is not limited to, at least one of the same notes used at some point in The Imperial March. Cerebral Cortex and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 John Williams is a genius! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's certainly no harp cameo like 3M1 'More Anakin Whinging', but it's still a neat tip of the baton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's certainly no harp cameo like 3M1 'More Anakin Whinging', but it's still a neat tip of the baton.Whinging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I can imagine the First Order March being something like this;https://youtu.be/YuCP11WAyz8?t=1m50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I can imagine the First Order March being something like this;https://youtu.be/YuCP11WAyz8?t=1m50sI remember hoping that we'd get something like that for the Anakin v Obi Wan dual in ROTS. It sounds like hints of Across the Stars in there which would have been quite fitting, given the cause of Anakin's fall in the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I can imagine the First Order March being something like this;https://youtu.be/YuCP11WAyz8?t=1m50sI remember hoping that we'd get something like that for the Anakin v Obi Wan dual in ROTS. It sounds like hints of Across the Stars in there which would have been quite fitting, given the cause of Anakin's fall in the films.Totally agree, it would have been brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I can imagine the First Order March being something like this;https://youtu.be/YuCP11WAyz8?t=1m50sI've been imagining it sounding like "Row Row Row Your Boat" in minor key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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