crocodile 8,020 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I already bought this twice. Great score. Probably among the best this decade has to offer. Karol Dixon Hill and ChrisAfonso 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I agree completely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Everyone should get it! ASAP! Follows in the footsteps of Wintory's gorgeous Journey in terms of how he constructs moods and interweaves his thematic ideas through the score but it is its own beast to be sure with gorgeous choral work both subtle and grand. I love how the composer both delivers something very much expected for the aquatic environment of the game and gives such impressionistic sound painting his own distinct voice and goes even for a more ambitious concert piece feel for some of the choral material. 10 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: For those who haven't heard Abzu yet (like me, because I don't generally like buying digital-only releases): Marian, the album is available at Varese as a good old fashioned physical CD release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 But look at those shipping costs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Just now, Stefancos said: But look at those shipping costs!!! You can get it from European retailers I am sure. I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 @Marian Schedenig there you go. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 8:37 PM, crocodile said: I already bought this twice. Great score. Probably among the best this decade has to offer. Karol Don't be ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'd be hard pressed to name much more than two hands' worth of scores of equal or greater quality since 2010, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 It has a great meditative ambience to it, but nothing that wasn't done better in Journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I don't know, I don't really see much overlap. Very different musical worlds - one is shimmering, lush, and full of life and color. The other is austere, solitary, and absolutely steeped in the most sublimely indefinable and elusive sort of melancholy. Only real similarities seem to be certain religioso elements and the modal language, and an overall sense of vague myth. Ah, time to listen to both again. Don't forget Flow, either, lovely stuff in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 03/08/2017 at 4:08 PM, crocodile said: @Marian Schedenig there you go. Thanks, I must have missed that. I.e. I probably read about it and then forgot. For now I'll make do with my Bandcamp FLACs. I haven't really found access to Wintory's music yet... both Journey and Abzu are lovely, and certainly very well done, but so far that's all I feel about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Isn't "lovely" enough? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 They haven't really been able to hold my interest so far, so I guess it isn't. I'll try to keep them in my rotation for a bit, to see if that changes something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Isn't "lovely" enough? Karol It didnt used to be. Not if you grew up on Williams, Goldsmith, Horner, Barry, Herrmann, etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'm pretty sure at least some of those gentlemen would give Wintory thumbs up. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 17 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: I don't know, I don't really see much overlap. Very different musical worlds - one is shimmering, lush, and full of life and color. The other is austere, solitary, and absolutely steeped in the most sublimely indefinable and elusive sort of melancholy. Only real similarities seem to be certain religioso elements and the modal language, and an overall sense of vague myth. Ah, time to listen to both again. Don't forget Flow, either, lovely stuff in its own right. I'd have to revisit the score, but my entire experience with Abzu, in game mind you, was that it was desperately trying to recreate the magic of Journey and only succeeded at being mediocre. Wintory is great, though. AC Syndicate is ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 hours ago, crocodile said: I'm pretty sure at least some of those gentlemen would give Wintory thumbs up. Karol I'm certain that Jerry would be a fan. He mentored Wintory, didn't he? Or at least had some early influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 He is 33 years old so it seems unlikely, as he was only 20 when Goldsmith died and JG probably was unwell long before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Here is an older article where he mentions Jerry Goldsmith as a definitive inspiration. Quote My teacher (Derry O’Leary) then exposed me to the music of Jerry Goldsmith, and I was an instant addict and from 10 onwards, hellbent on the life of a composer,” he said. “But I didn’t play any music before age 10, and actually didn’t even really listen to music in an active way.” Btw he also arranged this suite and someone on Youtube set it to images ("The Gold Standard" by Austin Wintory -- a tribute to the music of Jerry Goldsmith, arranged and conducted by Austin, performed by the Golden State Pops Orchestra, recorded live at the Warner Grand Theatre, San Pedro, California, June 11, 2011: crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Jerry probably would only be half-pleased as he usually reprimanded younger composers for listening to film music all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Well by the sound of his music I don't think Wintory despite his initial film music inspired spark to make music has entirely left the vast Western musical tradition by the wayside in his education. He seems to have a healthy attitude to music as music regardless of genre and of actively working in games, films and concert hall so as not to be stuck in one niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 That is why he gets half-approval from Gorgeous and not no-approval. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I don't know why I thought he had studied with Jerry, but he was a Lauridsen pupil I think, which bodes well for his breadth of ability beyond "the movies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 15 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: I'm certain that Jerry would be a fan. He mentored Wintory, didn't he? Or at least had some early influence. No, Austin's first year in LA was after JG died plus JG taught at USC in the early 90's. Beltrami studied with him and said it was unpleasant. JG is more composer than teacher and had little time for building someone up. But Austin was an avid fan who knew the composer's works inside and out so in a way studied it thoroughly the way some of us are well versed with JW without having been taught by him...we've absorbed his vocabulary and hopefully made it our own. Austin was very passionate about JG. I think that is not dissimilar to how JG did that with Herrmann when he was getting his start. We were classmates at USC and I will confess I appreciate his talent and the person he has become much more now than I did then. He had obvious talent but it was a competitive environment. I am delighted by the success and adoration he has received and it is well deserved. Dixon Hill and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Did you study with Morten as well? I'm sorry to hear of how competitive an environment it was. That is something I am glad to have bypassed by studying privately, and I don't believe it should be the case in the first place, but that's an entirely different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,915 Posted August 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 12:01 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said: Did you study with Morten as well? I'm sorry to hear of how competitive an environment it was. That is something I am glad to have bypassed by studying privately, and I don't believe it should be the case in the first place, but that's an entirely different discussion. You know what, we learned from each other. It made us all better in that it was competitive. At the time it felt manipulative and crude especially for me coming from a classical world but we did secretly try to impress each other too so ultimately it was a growth experience. I truly loved my time at USC bruises and all. I have one very sweet memory...maybe the first week into class, Austin and I had lunch at a place he introduced me to that became a favorite of mine and I've frequently had lunch there for networking purposes. Our whole class was new to town so didn't know anyone in this big scary town called LA but all shared the same dream. After lunch, we sat in my car for maybe an hour or two listening to each others demo CD and giving kind and supportive feedback like "oh cool, interesting harmonic choice there" or something like that. I loved the fact that he was into space as I was and his earliest demo music was space music which was all he had then plus we were totally geeking out to our mutual love of the greats like Horner, Goldsmith, and Williams. We basically couldn't wait to talk music details and show each other our stuff. Note Zimmer at the time wasn't known for Pirates or the super hero genre stuff but Austin absolutely loved Zimmer's quirky music like As Good as It Gets. These were very nice memories to sit in the car and talk deeply about music for hours with a serious fan. Austin was very young. I believe 22 and was finishing his last year of undergrad while doing the grad program (which is why he studied with Morten since he still had an undergrad degree to finish and the grad program required the completion of undergrad to quality). My time with Morten was limited to a masterclass and I frankly have had more time with John Williams than Morten. I saw him frequently (probably weekly) and we had access to him but frankly, our focus was elsewhere. Austin never doubted himself which was the complete opposite of me and my classical peers who constantly doubted ourselves. Frankly, that wasn't an endearing quality when someone so young was so confident of their talent. In music school, it gets tiring meeting people who believe they are the next Stravinsky. But he did grow up over the years since and I now appreciate what originally frustrated me realizing these are just quirks which anyone has. I think what made me appreciate him much more as a person was his response to the AFA fine. He handled that with grace, courage and conviction and I believe grew from the experience which I think happened when he lost his father to heart failure. I lost my dad to heart failure 17 years ago so found his courage through this endearing. In 2016 we were both nominated for the same major award. I had worked on the music team of a modest video game score but he had worked on a major brand's score (sorry I don't remember what it was!). When they announced his name as a nominee, from the applause it was clear he would win and I was genuinely delighted for him. We are no longer competitors, he has eclipsed me and I am thrilled for his success. Frankly, he deserves it and is much more comfortable in the lime light. He really is a very good guy and most people discovered this sooner than I did. I miss our talks in a car listening to each others stuff and talking about our shared love of music for hours. KK, Koray Savas, Nick Parker and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Thanks for sharing these thoughts so candidly. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Indeed. It is both fascinating and humanizing to read. Helps remind that film composers are humans with human foibles (and strengths of course). A fact that can so often recede into the background for me on the consumer end of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I've been thoroughly enjoying my copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Soundtrack for Wintory's newest game score, "Absolver" Incanus and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Another new Wintory score coming out from Varese Sarabande on 3rd of November: Tooth and Tail Quote From the creators of the IGF-winning, best-selling game Monaco: What’s Yours Is Mine, Tooth and Tail is set in a world of animal revolution. The Commonfolk, the Civilized, the Longcoats and the KSR are factions at war over who will eat and who will be eaten. Featuring music by Grammy nominated composer Austin Wintory. The music features themes for each faction which ranges from fast upbeat tarantellas, organ/violin tangos, Germanic waltz music and Eastern European folk dances. Quote Track list 1. The Food Of Beasts (1:34) 2. Hopper, Flagbearer For The Commonfolk (2:24) 3. Bellafide, Firebrand Of The Longcoats (2:14) 4. The Quartermaster Of The KSR (2:14) 5. Archimedes, Left Hand Of The Civilized (1:15) 6. The Old South Distillery (1:22) 7. Hollow In The Gut (3:24) 8. Hyperduck Soundworks: Who Becomes The Meat? (3:23) 9. The Hungry Face A Stiff Wind (5:53) 10. Kristin Naigus: Bellafide’s Tarantella (2:17) 11. Fuel Of The Firebrand (3:38) 12. Snikaree Liberation (4:22) 13. John Robert Matz: Waltz Of The KSR (3:12) 14. Black Sledge Uprising (2:06) 15. Bonepit Exile (1:50) 16. The Siege Of Ragfall Road (5:24) 17. Eli Bishop: Archimedes’ Tango (2:43) 18. The War For Meat (2:11) 19. Salome Scheidegger: The Ivories Of Beasts (3:40) 20. Swine, Inscribed (1:29) 21. To The Ends (5:00) 22. Darren Korb: Anthem Of The Commonfolk (2:32) 23. Victors Will Feast (1:21) Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I know Disco Stu mentioned it above but Absolver is coming out on CD and LP as well (from Laced Records). Quote Album: Absolver (Original Soundtrack) Artist: Austin Wintory & RZA Shipping Date: Q4 2017 Artwork: Angela Bermúdez Product Information: Single CD All 20 Tracks From Absolver 4 Page Inner Booklet ......................................... Laced Records, in partnership with SloClap and Devolver Digital, bring you the Absolver (Original Soundtrack) on CD. The game’s 20-track original score by award-winning composer Austin Wintory (Journey, Abzu, Assassin’s Creed Syndicate) includes a brand new exclusive track co-produced by RZA (Wu-Tang Clan, Afro Samurai). The CD edition includes a 4 page booklet and original artwork by Angela Bermúdez. TRACKLISTING: 1. PATH OF THE PROSPECTS 2. SHARDS OF AN EMPIRE 3. THE GUIDANCE BRIDGE 4. FOLDING 5. A HARBOR OF SPLINTERS 6. HANDS OUTSTRETCHED 7. THE HUNTING PATH 8. RASLAN COLISEUM 9. THE MADNESS OF KURETZ 10. ORATIAN QUARTER 11. REFLECTIONS 12. DANCING ON CENOTAPHS 13. THE TOWER OF ADAL 14. ADALIAN COLUMBARY 15. CARGAL AND KILNOR, CHILDREN OF WARLORDS 16. IMPERIAL LIBRARY 17. THE BIRD CALLERS OUTPOST 18. A FORGOTTEN TEMPLE 19. RISRYN, ROGUE ABSOLVER (CO-PRODUCED BY RZA) 20. WE WILL CALL ON YOU CREDITS: Music by Austin Wintory Tom Strahle: Various guitars, mandolin, banjo, dobro, electric bass Kristin Naigus: bansuri and English horn Produced, mixed and programmed by Austin Wintory Album mastered by Steve Kempster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I like "Cargal and Kilnor, Children of War" from Absolver. Also, he released a new film score two days ago <a data-cke-saved-href="http://austinwintory.bandcamp.com/album/the-rendezvous" href="http://austinwintory.bandcamp.com/album/the-rendezvous">The Rendezvous by Austin Wintory</a> Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,020 Posted January 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2018 Varese just released a limited run of 500 copies of The Rendezvous. @publicist, @KK and @Incanus might want to consider this one. One of the best scores of 2017, no question about it. Karol publicist, Jonesy, KK and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Cool. It's a nice score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 11/3/2017 at 6:13 AM, Disco Stu said: I like "Cargal and Kilnor, Children of War" from Absolver. Also, he released a new film score two days ago <a data-cke-saved-href="http://austinwintory.bandcamp.com/album/the-rendezvous" href="http://austinwintory.bandcamp.com/album/the-rendezvous">The Rendezvous by Austin Wintory</a> Sounds great! Go Austin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 11 hours ago, crocodile said: Varese just released a limited run of 500 copies of The Rendezvous. @publicist, @KK and @Incanus might want to consider this one. One of the best scores of 2017, no question about it. Karol Thanks for the heads-up Karol! I'll certainly be getting this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Apparently Wintory came very close to scoring the new Star Trek series: https://medium.com/@awintory/star-trek-discovery-in-a-parallel-universe-94695577457a Incanus and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Very interesting, if he manages to sign a prominent project these days he'll probably be a Pembertom, Johansson, Wallfisch or McCreary in the next five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 What a shame he wasn't chosen. The demos he wrote sound a little unrefined (though still excellent,) but they would have been masterful compared to the generic ambiance we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Thanks for linking the story KK! Very interesting stuff. I am sure Austin would have done a brilliant job if they had had the sense to hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Great story! He really did go to some lengths to get a shot and gave it all - the balls to just book an orchestra for the next day, thinking "so, now I have no choice but to write this until tomorrow!". Great demos also. And awesome that he could share the story at all - I'd imagine he had to get an ok first as he had signed an NDA beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 If that is what he can cook up in a day for a project like this, I'd love to do what he can do with a full schedule and budget. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Though it wasn't very memorable. Miles better than what they ended up with, but going by the series legacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I like Klingon piece the most. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Jup. But the main problem with his general idea is that - while traditional - it is not bold enough, melodically, that one would instantly say 'sold'. It just kind of hangs there as if something more interesting is about to happen but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, crocodile said: If that is what he can cook up in a day for a project like this, I'd love to do what he can do with a full schedule and budget. Karol Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 5 hours ago, publicist said: Jup. But the main problem with his general idea is that - while traditional - it is not bold enough, melodically, that one would instantly say 'sold'. It just kind of hangs there as if something more interesting is about to happen but that's it. Agreed. Plenty of interesting colours and ideas, but it still leans more towards general "library music" than it does a fine musical set-piece a la "The Enterprise". But again, we're talking about demos scraped together in days versus the work of a full-budget film score. I'm sure Wintory would have been brilliant for this had he landed the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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