Marian Schedenig 8,261 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, JWScores said: Just remove "apparently" and no one will get hurt... JWScores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Prokofiev's classical symphony. Marriner strikes again! Come on Decca, to the bloody box. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 20/04/2024 at 8:22 AM, Jurassic Shark said: Because he could and was a perfectionist/obsessive... And....... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, bruce marshall said: And....... ? What? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 10 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What? Go to my place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 18 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Go to my place If you buy a ticket and I can bring Thor as my bodyguard. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Ives, symphony 3. Number 0 would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 My dad got me this set years and years ago: Beethoven – The Complete 9 Symphonies (CD) - Discogs Enjoying the performances a lot, though I wonder why on earth anyone would bother cobbling it together like this. Just go with one version. Wouldn't that be easier? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,734 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 @bollemanneke, you have a very nice dad. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I'll tell him. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 36 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I wonder why on earth anyone would bother cobbling it together like this. Probably due to budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,257 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 6 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: @bollemanneke, you have a very nice dad. In 2020 my Dad bought me the 118-CD-3 Blu-ray Complete Beethoven Edition for my Birthday, but I later asked him to cancel the order, because it was too expensive and I asked him to buy several film music sets for me instead, which he did. As much as I love LVB and would’ve been thrilled to have that set, I don’t regret it too much, it would’ve been hard for me to find a place to keep such a big box. I’ll be forever grateful to my Dad that he was willing to spend so much money on music just to make me happy. He was a wonderful father. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,734 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 @JTN, you, too, have a very nice dad. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,257 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 49 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: @JTN, you, too, have a very nice dad. had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan JC 86 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Sorry for your loss @JTN. Speaking of Beethoven, today marks the 200th anniversary of the premiere of the 9th Symphony. Listening once more to this wonder. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,261 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Found this, which I didn't know existed, with Janowitz and Berry (who also featured on Karajan's recording 6 years earlier): It's not as good as Cleveland. Some of the playing is rather shoddy, and generally Szell doesn't seem to be able to keep his ensemble (instrumental & vocal) in sync. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,677 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Moving on through my dad's LPs, here's another one with some evergreens on it. I'm not quite sure what's "HiFi" about it, though, but that may be the state of the LP itself. Needs a bit of cleaning. I know that Karajan's 50s DG recordings are definitely HiFi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,371 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Philip Glass, the most overrated composer ever, was extremely boring. Salvation finally came with Stravinsky. Järvi's version is pretty fast but I like it that way. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,734 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, A24 said: Philip Glass, the most overrated composer ever... Controversial, but his music doesn't do much for me, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,332 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Controversial, but his music doesn't do much for me, either. I like most of his symphonies. The second and third ones are energetic, and the ones based on David Bowie albums are surprisingly good. Not that I know much David Bowie. In about 8 hours time I will have just heard Mahler 3 with the LSO conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas which I’m looking forward to immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 43 minutes ago, A24 said: Philip Glass, the most overrated composer ever, was extremely boring. Salvation finally came with Stravinsky. Järvi's version is pretty fast but I like it that way. Glass' violin concerto is great, but lots of his other orchestral works aren't that good, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted Monday at 02:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:30 PM Beethoven, Eroica, LSO, Rafael Frühbeck De Burgos. A surprising tender take, sometimes bordering on lacklustre. The end of the finale was really, really slow. And it... kind of worked in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,875 Posted Monday at 02:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:37 PM You lot are nuts. Philip Glass is phenomenal. Though I suppose you can be phenomenal and still overrated. His music is sublime. Jurassic Shark and A24 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:28 PM 1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said: You lot are nuts. Philip Glass is phenomenal. Though I suppose you can be phenomenal and still overrated. His music is sublime. Yes, especially that second movement of that violin concerto where... nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Schilkeman 1,015 Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM Coming out of the extremely pre-1900-centric world of academic music study, it took me a long time to "get" minimalism. I found it boring and repetitious, but the first time I sat and listened to all 4 hours of Einstein on the Beach, I really got into the subtly shifting rhythmic modulations. Harmony and melody are not the elements of musical interest. It's rhythm and texture. It's like molding clay in real time. This just takes such skill and precision to play, it's breathtaking, and I love its abstract, symbolist version of the subject. Madmartigan JC, Nick1Ø66 and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,371 Posted Tuesday at 04:22 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:22 AM I only have interest in post-1900 classical music. I might give that a listen but so far I never heard anything from Glass that I liked. It's my experience that it's usually people with designer glasses that dig Glass. They don't really like classical music (too old-fashioned) or contemporary classical (too tiring), but for some reason they dig Glass. Maybe it's because Glass reminds them of glasses? Who knows? Madmartigan JC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 1,015 Posted Tuesday at 04:27 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:27 AM Every era has its delights. I try not to judge a thing based on the people who like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,261 Posted Tuesday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:32 PM 15 hours ago, Schilkeman said: Coming out of the extremely pre-1900-centric world of academic music study, it took me a long time to "get" minimalism. I found it boring and repetitious, but the first time I sat and listened to all 4 hours of Einstein on the Beach, I really got into the subtly shifting rhythmic modulations. Harmony and melody are not the elements of musical interest. It's rhythm and texture. It's like molding clay in real time. I like Einstein, but it's not everyday listening. On the other hand, I can hardly get enough of the other two operas from the portrait trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM 16 hours ago, Schilkeman said: Coming out of the extremely pre-1900-centric world of academic music study, it took me a long time to "get" minimalism. I found it boring and repetitious, but the first time I sat and listened to all 4 hours of Einstein on the Beach, I really got into the subtly shifting rhythmic modulations. Harmony and melody are not the elements of musical interest. It's rhythm and texture. It's like molding clay in real time. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan JC 86 Posted yesterday at 12:30 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:30 AM I listen to Glass often, but Einstein has always been a bit hard to get through, unlike his other operas, which I adore. But I had the chance of seeing a full live performance last month and the experience was transformative, interesting, compelling and even moving. Truly loved it and it didn't get boring for a minute. It took me seeing it performed to get it. On 12/05/2024 at 8:40 AM, Tom Guernsey said: In about 8 hours time I will have just heard Mahler 3 with the LSO conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas which I’m looking forward to immensely. I was surprised by your comment, as I wasn't aware he was directing againg. I just read he appears to have had a moment of confusion midway through the performance. How was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,332 Posted yesterday at 09:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:06 AM 8 hours ago, Madmartigan JC said: I was surprised by your comment, as I wasn't aware he was directing againg. I just read he appears to have had a moment of confusion midway through the performance. How was it? I don't believe he's conducting much now but yeah, he seemed to think the performance had ended after the fifth movement but after a bit of guidance from the orchestra, vocal soloist and another gentleman who came on stage (which I think is MTT's husband), he stayed to conduct the final movement. It was a sad and strange moment for sure as nobody could quite work out what was going on. He seemed frail getting to the podium and, if not exactly super lively, pretty focussed while actually conducting, but clearly his condition resulted in a momentary lapse. I thought it was a pretty good performance, although the first movement did perhaps drag a bit (it's quite episodic anyway and it needed a stronger dramatic arc) but the rest I thought was wonderful. I have a lot of Mahler recordings but by no means an expert and the third isn't one I know that well, although better having seen it live. Glad I got to see him as I have a decent number of recordings of other composers by him (his Symphonie Fantastique is my go-to performance) but obviously a shame it wasn't in his prime. During the hiatus, the lady next to me kept asking (to nobody in particular) "do you think he's lost it?" which felt rather unkind even if he clearly wasn't firing on all cylinders. I don't know if the repeat performance last night (16 May) went ahead as planned. He's meant to be back in London for his 80th birthday later in the year but that feels ambitious, sadly. Madmartigan JC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted yesterday at 09:12 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:12 AM 5 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: During the hiatus, the lady next to me kept asking (to nobody in particular) Is that a British thing, or had she lost it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,332 Posted yesterday at 09:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:15 AM 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Is that a British thing, or had she lost it? Shrug... to be fair, she may have been sort of asking me as I had provided her with a Strepsil to prevent her from having a massive coughing fit earlier in the concert. I am nothing if not prepared. Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,250 Posted yesterday at 09:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:19 AM 4 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: I had provided her with a Strepsil to prevent her from having a massive coughing fit earlier in the concert. I am nothing if not prepared. I'll keep that in mind for future concerts. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,261 Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM 3 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: I don't know if the repeat performance last night (16 May) went ahead as planned. Judging from the LSO's (and players') social media feeds, it seems it did. I don't think they mentioned anything of the problems during your performance though, so I guess they're no indication of how it went. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,332 Posted yesterday at 12:59 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:59 PM 21 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Judging from the LSO's (and players') social media feeds, it seems it did. I don't think they mentioned anything of the problems during your performance though, so I guess they're no indication of how it went. That's good to know! Although I feel it may be challenging for him to do the concert planned later in the year as I doubt his condition will improve, alas. Madmartigan JC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted yesterday at 04:45 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:45 PM Some Telemann violin concertos. Surprisingly so-so, bordering on boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,508 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Yes this is classical! New album by Camille Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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