New details on Williams / Ross Dial Of Destiny collaboration via new LA Times article by Tim Greiving

[Faleel 5,360]

3 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I actually like the "new adversity motif" in Insurrection. I like the old one but Jerry just didn't use it consistently and it was neat to hear something more new and fresh to make up for the familiar US Marshals motif throughout some.

 

 

To me it kind of feels less like a development, and more like a tease. (I actually do like it as well though)

[Will 2,215]

Well, @Tydirium and @Falstaft, I think you've convinced me regarding "Tuk Tuk Chase." Thanks for the explanations! Based on everything said above, I guess the most likely situation has to be temp track emulation (hard for me to imagine Williams or Ross deciding on their own to quote music from, e.g., AOTC...).

 

I fully agree with @oierem that this is all incredibly perplexing -- it's so bizarre to imagine Williams and/or Ross digging through old scores to try to match the temp track, with slight alterations. I think that was part of what initially led me to assume many of the "quotes" might be unintentional: the alternative (that someone actually took the effort to look at old scores, even non-IJ ones) seemed really strange. As noted in posts above, copying bars from other scores isn't all that unusual, but the way it was apparently done here is. E.g., in Rise of Skywalker, I recall that music editor Ramiro Belgardt suggested using a Yoda and the Force excerpt in the scene with Luke's ghost, so JW asked someone to find the original TESB sheet music and they just copied it exactly. The process here must have been quite different.

[King Mark 3,631]

Wait what if an A.I. composed 

On 28/11/2023 at 8:35 AM, oierem said:

 

Yes, but that's still baffling because it's not tracked music. It's newly recorded. Which means, once Williams / Ross is given the tempt-track, he goes through the old scores, searching for those couple of bars that the editor has chosen, which don't fit musically with anything before or after, and just copy-paste them, with slight and seemingly-random differences ("let's just add a cymbal crash for the sake of it"). The result is something almost impossible to conduct, or even play, and yet they do it. Why? Isn't is easier just to track music? 

Maybe it was composed by an A.I. ?

[Tom 4,673]

48 minutes ago, King Mark said:

Wait what if an A.I. composed 

Maybe it was composed by an A.I. ?

Only after the AI was reunited with its Mutter.